Welcome To DIYMA! A "How To" On Behavior and Etiquette

[MiniVanMan]

Welcome to DIY Mobile Audio. DIYMA has quickly become one of the most informative sites on the internet for car audio enthusiasts. Now that you’ve found your way here, we, as the DIYMA community, would like to lay down a few ground rules for behavior, and etiquette.

1. Be mature. DIYMA is not a forum designed around the pursuit of annoying your neighbors, or those unfortunate enough to be stuck next to you at a stop light. Nobody here cares how cool you think you are, or how hard your subwoofers hit.

2. Be respectful. DIYMA is very fortunate to have many, many industry professionals, audio experts from various fields, and even many non-biased vendors looking to impart knowledge, even if it doesn’t lead to a sale. Being respectful doesn’t necessarily mean bowing down to such individuals, but calling people names, and generally being snotty will quickly get you on the list of individuals these people will ignore.

3. Be self-reliant. There’s a VERY good chance any question you have has already been addressed on the forum somewhere. Try doing a specific search for your topic. Be DILIGENT. Don’t just give up because your search yielded 200 results. Try refining your search, or even better, read through many of the threads. You may actually learn something relevant to your question. This bullet can’t be stressed enough. It’s very hard for the experts on this forum to weed through a slew of inane questions about which subwoofer hits harder to find actual relevant, good questions.

4. Be prepared to think critically. There’s a good chance that if you’ve been involved in car audio for more than 2 days, you’ve probably been inundated with so many myths Zeus himself would be proud. Much of what we do around here is debunking these myths. Be prepared to be challenged.

5. Be open minded. This goes with bullet four. There’s a difference between arguing because you’re stubborn, and arguing because you want somebody to be more clear on a topic. If somebody is saying something that goes against what you’ve been told in the past, then by all means ask for clarification. Telling somebody they are flat out wrong because your second cousin, that’s installed at least 5 stereos says something different is just being stubborn and ignorant.

Lastly, the DIY in DIYMA stands for DO IT YOURSELF. This goes for using the search button as well as taking a chance and trying a new speaker. Expecting somebody to just “tell” you the answer is not what this forum stands for. It’s about your personal exploration into car audio, and audio in general.

[3.5max6spd]

Sticky please, well done:)

[azngotskills]

Sticky please, well done:)

Yes, please do :) Maybe it should should some how be included when a new member registers

[Autiophile]

Sticky please, well done:)

x2. Maybe merge it and the DIYMA Message thread.

[DIYMA]

Stuck!
Thanks for getting it up MVM!

I am going to have my VB guy add that hack I told you about.
SHould be ready in a few hours.

ANT

[alphakenny1]

Sweet MVM.

[TheDavel05]

Is it possible for this to open up (like a popup) before anyone that is new here makes there first post or that they have to read it upon setting up an account? If people followed these very rules this site would go back to being an amazing site not just a good site with great info that you have to weed through BS to find.

[speakerboy]

Well said - eloquent and too the point. http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-8769.gif

[bikinpunk]

Nice. Hopefully people actually take the time to read it. I have a feeling the OP will be linked many, many times. ;)

[chithead]

I would consider myself a "NOOB" and must say, very well written and explained. I do hope that everyone else here will be more respectful to the masters of audio and take their advice instead of arguing like I have seen. As stated, just because your cousin installed 5 radios and says those speakers down at Piney's Flea Mall hit so hard your eyeballs bleed, that is not what this site is about. I have learned a lot just from my few weeks on here, it has become a daily addiction of mine to log on here and see what has been reviewed recently. Or how to get better, cleaner sound, versus that annoying boomy trunk rattle of the 85 Caprice sitting next to you at the light.

[DIYMA]

This thread has just been added to the MUST READ list for new members.
Any time a new members signes up, they will have to first visit this thread prior to posting in any other thread.

This is a new mod so I am not all that familiar with how it works.
Hopfully it will not force everyone to read it.
We will see.

ANT

[bobditts]

you just pushed this out to everyone just so you know. I tried to view a thread and it poped up a message saying I had to review this thread.

[nismos14]

I had to read it, hehe :) Great read though.

[DIYMA]

Damn...
I'd better run for cover..

ANT

[GlasSman]

Nicely said.

[simplicityinsound]

couldnt have said it better myself, great suggestions :)

b

[6spdcoupe]

Excellent. Well thought out and perfectly executed.

[internecine]

why was i directed to read this

[Luke352]

Well written, and good to see it's gone out to everyone not just the new members, I think everyone can do with a reminder once in awhile.

[6spdcoupe]

why was i directed to read this

This thread has just been added to the MUST READ list for new members.
Any time a new members signes up, they will have to first visit this thread prior to posting in any other thread.

This is a new mod so I am not all that familiar with how it works.
Hopfully it will not force everyone to read it.
We will see.

ANT

you just pushed this out to everyone just so you know. I tried to view a thread and it poped up a message saying I had to review this thread.

Asked and answered.

[bobditts]

Asked and answered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4

[spl152db]

love the ninja rap!

[ZoNtO]

I love you for posting that!

[bobditts]

I love you for posting that!

thats a bt creepy.

Ant, Might it be a good idea to deleta all but the first post and lock the thread and keep it a sticky?

[UCF52]

Good stuff. Really shows the maturity and leadership of the people who run this forum. I am glad to see something like this and wish more forums would catch on. A++!

[kimokalihi]

Can somebody change this thing so it doesn't pop up and tell me I have to read this every time I try to come here?! If I click the link in my browser to go to the main page it's fine but when I click the links I have to my for sale threads, it just forces me to come read this damn thread again. I'm not a noob, I know this forum quite well. Stop making me read this.

[tcguy85]

well said my friend!

[phatredpt]

Very well said MVM...
props to you ;)

[6spdcoupe]

thats a bt creepy.

Ant, Might it be a good idea to deleta all but the first post and lock the thread and keep it a sticky?

While I would normally agree with this, the support from everyone *may* show some that its not just stated, but rather agreed upon among all. This will hopefully lead to people actually doing what is posted as opposed to 'brushing it off'.

[F150Truck'in]

Well Stated.... and 100% agreed...

Glad to see this will be required reading material...

[veloze]

MVM: Very clever man...consise and to the point. I love when someone takes charge ;)

[Weightless]

Well said...

Especially the part that states what the D I Y stands for.

[rockondon]

I'm thinking a standing round of applause.!

Im in.

[UCF52]

While I would normally agree with this, the support from everyone *may* show some that its not just stated, but rather agreed upon among all. This will hopefully lead to people actually doing what is posted as opposed to 'brushing it off'.

Good point, as I'm sure many will just say "whatever." I may not have been here as long as others, but there is one thing I can say for myself and that is I have a lot of respect for the opinions and contributions that the many valued members here make. Keep it up!

[DejaWiz]

Great job, MVM!

[thehatedguy]

Pretty ridiculous that you were REQUIRED to read this thread before getting to the site.

[JoeHemi57]

Pretty ridiculous that you were REQUIRED to read this thread before getting to the site.

hopefully people will at least read the first post :cool:

i didn't read the other pages of people patting him on the back...

[TheDavel05]

I was pleased to have to re-read it! I hope people actually do. If the "rules" so to speak are followed it will pretty much eliminate the majority of any complaints around here!

[sqshoestring]

I get on a few sites and most have some kind of thing like this, which is good. It can be difficult to keep a site on track and have great technical content most of us are looking for...while not working over the mods much more than they should have to.

But I got this today and thought I posted something poorly:confused: That was freaky. I edited some posts but could not figure out what was going on, guess this explains it. You got me with that one.:blush:

[Railrocker]

Ok so I read it, I agree with it, am I going to have to read it again?

[DIYMA]

Can somebody change this thing so it doesn't pop up and tell me I have to read this every time I try to come here?! If I click the link in my browser to go to the main page it's fine but when I click the links I have to my for sale threads, it just forces me to come read this damn thread again. I'm not a noob, I know this forum quite well. Stop making me read this.


Hmm...
THat should not be happening..

Anyone else getting this?

ANT

[rhinodog00]

Great job and good thinking on the read before you get to the forum.

[munkittrick]

There was message asking me to re-read all of the forum rules when I logged-in today. I'm assuming due to some kind of issue with the membership body, but somehow I think that someone confused me with another person in some random thread, but I wanted to let an admin know so that they can forward it to the relevant party.

Thanks...and keep up the good work

[Vestax]

I'm loving it... :D

[quest51210]

why do i have to see this everytime i come here?

[bikinpunk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4

OH HEEEELL NAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

Dude, for real, that song is on my iPod and I have listened to it enough for it to be in my "most played" playlist. ;)



As for people asking about reading this thread multiple times; are you 'always signed in'? I know I am, so I've only had to read this once. If you sign in everytime you visit, maybe the glitch lies there. :confused:

[TheDavel05]

Hmm...
THat should not be happening..

Anyone else getting this?

ANT

I only recieved it the one time... I have since been back several times and do not get it... maybe it is because the site automatically logs me in each visit and the outher might manully log in each time?

[F3RR3T]

sounds like a good place to me

[DIYMA]

Guys
Please send me a PM if this feature is making you constantly view this thread.
It should only make each user view it once.
If it is not working properly I need to know

ANT

[DejaWiz]

Can somebody change this thing so it doesn't pop up and tell me I have to read this every time I try to come here?! If I click the link in my browser to go to the main page it's fine but when I click the links I have to my for sale threads, it just forces me to come read this damn thread again. I'm not a noob, I know this forum quite well. Stop making me read this.

Is your browser set to clear cookies automatically?

[DIYMA]

we are working on the system but may have to restart it s acouple of times.
If you guys are asked, yet again, to read this thread, please be patient.

ANT

[sqshoestring]

I have only seen it once.

[DIYMA]

you may see it again.
We are still working out the kinks

ANT

[GlasSman]

As for people asking about reading this thread multiple times; are you 'always signed in'? I know I am, so I've only had to read this once. If you sign in everytime you visit, maybe the glitch lies there. :confused:

BINGO is his NAME....OO.

:D

[dub22]

great thread all forums should have this as a guide

[volLVLn9ne]

As a new member, I think these guidelines are great, and now before posting my first question, I will be looking it up first, as I'm sure someone has had it before. great list, i agree with showing it to new members.

[DIYMA]

We are still working on the hack that forces everyone to read this thread. If you have received it a few times, please send me a PM.

ANT

[fredridge]

only once here and I use multiple computers to access

[drtool]

3rd time 4 me

[GlasSman]

Twice now for me.

[fredridge]

well, I spoke too soon... just got one again

only once here and I use multiple computers to access

[FrankstonCarAudio]

I hadn't said anything before, but this is third time for me...

Mark

[Nass027]

Third time for me also.

[pallsopp]

The rules are simple to understand so no one should break them.

[DIYMA]

so this time we turned it off, then on again..
Unfortuantely it is taking some testing, and eery time we test it, we have to force everyone to read it again..
The problem is that it cloggs up the server quite a bit, and we end up getting server busy messages. Tons of down time.

It is currently off until we can figure out how to mae it work properly.

ANT

[Captain Paintball]

I do not have time to read the previous 7 pages, so if this has been said before, I apologize. You are welcome to delete the post...

But it drives me CRAZY when someone posts 39 pictures of their install or amp collection, only to have some schmuck REPOST the SAME 39 pictures...and give a one word relpy like "cool!" or "that's awesome!"

Just reply to the post, there is no need to repost the 39 other pictures for your one word reply.

Do the big cheeses at DIYMA agree? if for no other reason than it will save a lot of bandwidth.

[blkonblk]

i got it i got it

[kimokalihi]

I do not have time to read the previous 7 pages, so if this has been said before, I apologize. You are welcome to delete the post...

But it drives me CRAZY when someone posts 39 pictures of their install or amp collection, only to have some schmuck REPOST the SAME 39 pictures...and give a one word relpy like "cool!" or "that's awesome!"

Just reply to the post, there is no need to repost the 39 other pictures for your one word reply.

Do the big cheeses at DIYMA agree? if for no other reason than it will save a lot of bandwidth.

Good point, I can't stand it when people just quote the entire post because they're too lazy to highlight and copy only what they need for the quote or because they're too lazy to scroll down the damn page to hit the reply button.

IMO I doubt anyone is going to read the rules anyways so there's no point in forcing everyone to be redirected to the rules thread all the time.

[Alcantara]

Hey, I'm pretty new here, and I wish I would have been directed to such a post to start with. My interest in this is brand new, and I just didn't know all that before. Thanks for the guidance, and now I feel like an idiot for my first post. Ah well, live n learn.:rolleyes:

[Random.Human]

Evening all, i just want to say hello and thank everyone in advance for posting their trials and tribulations with audio. Your storied experiences have made my jump in to SQ gear relatively painless.

Thus far, from the member's recommendations, I am reasonably knowledgeable with (and consequently have bought):

Clarion DRZ9255,
Seas W18Nx,
Tru Technology
DLS
Morel

Thank you,

Brian Forester

[d3n13d]

Im glad i found this website!
Andrew

[bluerrpilot]

New poster here. Been lurking for a bit and finally decided to register.

[1zach4]

been around lurking for a while and learning, now it's time to get my hands dirty/empty my wallet

[spaldiw]

yeah that would be nice

[V~Train]

great forum.

[V~Train]

is anyone here in the twin cities area? Minneapolis or Saint Paul?

[cbarret1]

Hi, I have to post a message in order to be able to make a new thread to here it is! (Im new)

If anyone knows a lot about In-line fuses/circuit breakers, fiberglassing & painting I have some questions for you!

Thanks

[kny3twalker]

I hope this site can help

[pwr4all]

I'm new to this site but I have about 14 years experience with car audio. Hope to make a diffrence here.

- Randy