My install > Peerless & DLS

[fuscobal]

As promised, here u are : http://forum.4tuning.ro/showthread.php?t=14303&page=2

[|Tch0rT|]

Wow, I like that a lot. I need to do some door pods like that! Nice work. =D

Ryan

[Ayrton]

Nice glass work on the door panels.

[ArcL100]

Damn. Well done. The material over the doors tops it off.

Any plans for grilles?

-aaron

[hc_TK]

Damn. Well done. The material over the doors tops it off.

Any plans for grilles?

-aaron
grilles are for chickens. :D

[mr tibbs]

Beautiful work man!! How does it sound? I wish I had that kind of skills!!

[jay]

very impressive install! are the exclusives touching the lower dash? are you getting any dash vibrations? and like everyone else, how does it sound??

[septimus]

very impressive. Does your knee sit right in the way of the driver 8"? My 6" is behind my leg and it aggrevates me.

[Jaredl]

Those doors look great, especially the stitching. I think you should cover the handles in the same material that you did for the new part of the doors, though.

[fuscobal]

The doors are touching the dash but no vibrations there. The sound is exactly what i was expecting from them. I am now crossing my sub at 40Hz and often i switch it off. The midbass produced by theese speakers is king-size, and cannot be found on 6.5" speakers. The sub-bass is close to the one of my 12W7 wich i find awesome. The speakers play 40 to 500Hz and are happy with it at any power levels ! I don't think grills are needed since there's plenty of space left for the passengers feet !

[rbenz27]

Very nice install. Congrats.

[nickgonzo]

niceeee

[chad]

Very cool, I'm jealous!

Chad

[fuscobal]

Thanks for your inputs !

[3.5max6spd]

Mi piace! Molto bene!

[newtitan]

oh wow that leather stitching is elite man WOW

[cvjoint]

holy crap I can't believe you guys are so hardcore back home. I knew you were picking an 8 inch peerless driver but I didn't know you had VRX's and such
I'm comming back to Bucharest in two weeks, let me know if I can audition your audisons :)

[fuscobal]

Anytime u want ! Sent me a pm when u're coming and if i'm in Bucharest we'll meet !

[strong*I*bumpin]

Amazing work my Romanian friend

[ocuriel]

That's a killer front stage.

[cvjoint]

Anytime u want ! Sent me a pm when u're coming and if i'm in Bucharest we'll meet !

Sure will! I definitely want to hear the exclusives, I opted for the xls 8 and I want hear the difference, although I kinda know your install is way more solid. I want to check out the mids too, it looks like your sound stage is quite high, headunit,craftsmanship...so much to see :)
A friend of mine went to Oradea a couple of weeks ago and saw his first Thesis. 6 years in the states and he had to go back home to see the best he he
I'll be in town for 3 months so I'll pm u
thanks!

[fuscobal]

Ok, no problem. If u want i can talk to Audison dealer in Romania and maybe u can also listen to his Thesis wich powers a set of Hertz Mille on a Subaru STI !

[Finleyville]

Very nice to see another Golf owner here! Fantastic install. Did you originally have A-pillar airbags? If so, did you remove them? That is the reason I didn't mount my Trius in my R32's pillars.

I didn't see how your sub is mounted in the trunk. Do you have it glassed in or just in a box?

[cvjoint]

Ok, no problem. If u want i can talk to Audison dealer in Romania and maybe u can also listen to his Thesis wich powers a set of Hertz Mille on a Subaru STI !
How can I refuse :) I think I saw the install somewhere on the net, uses hertz ribbons right? If it does it's even better I have a bonner for those and I use planar tweeters in my setup too. I heard u are one of the top guys in town in sq competitions, sweet stuff. I'll let u know when I can drop by for sure.

[fuscobal]

The sub it's in a sealed mdf box. I do have airbags in a-pillars but they are very high and have nothing to do with the mods i've made ! Yes, cvjoint, he uses the ribbons !

[cvjoint]

How do you cross your 2.5 dls mid with the HDS? Oh yeah, and how did you manage to cross the Jl with the HDS so low? I don't have any filter option below 50hz and you cut yours at what, 40?

[fuscobal]

I cross them over at 500Hz. The midbass can be crossed at ...50, 40, 31.5, 25 or through with this HU !

[mitchyz250f]

Anyone know of a Romanian translater page? I would really like to read that post.

[fuscobal]

Tell me if this is the one and i'll translate it for u !

Comentarii :

Difuzoare folosite >

Tweeter : DLS UR 1"
Midrange : DLS UR 2.5"
Mid-bass : Peerless HDS Exclusive 8"

Pregatirea portierelor >

Scopul inlocuirii mid-bass-ului Iridium a fost nepotrivirea acestuia cu incinta portierei si atenuarea destul de pronuntata a frecventelor joase, ceea ce ducea la o frecventa de taiere intre mid-bass si subwoofer de 80Hz, suficient de ridicata pentru a duce la o lipsa de coerenta intre cele 2 si la localizarea sub-bass-ului in spate. O alta problema a fost pozitionarea defectuoasa a difuzorului de bas din fabrica, ceea ce a necesitat gasirea unei amplasari cat mai in fata si jos din rationamente de PLD ( path length difference ) si coerenta intre mid-bass si midrange. Decupatura de o forma oarecare din primele imagini a fost singura solutie gasita pentru evitarea cadrului de rezistenta si a mecanismelor situate la interiorul portierei si chiar si asa am fost nevoiti sa mutam cateva cabluri. S-a adaugat apoi un inel de MDF care sa urmareasca forma decupaturii iar acesta a fost etanseizat cu silicon de parbriz pentru a evita scapari de aer pe sub fata de plastic/fibra a portierei. A fost adaugat un al doilea inel foarte subtire din MDF de 8mm de aceeasi forma care s-a prins prin suruburi de primul si care a fost monolitizat cu fata de plastic prin fibra de sticla. Intre cele 2 inele a fost pusa o garnitura pentru un contact optim si tot intre ele se face separarea intre fata de plastic si cea de tabla. In prezent pentru a putea scoate fata de plastic, se scoate difuzorul si apoi se desfac suruburile dintre cele 2 inele de MDF. In etapa urmatoare, s-a pozitionat inelul circular pe care sta difuzorul si la sfarsit s-a facut conexiunea intre acesta si inelul de 8mm de forma oarecare. Pentru o si mai buna rigidizare, peste fibra de sticla care a facut conexiunea si pe tot spatele fetei de plastic s-a dat cu o pasta speciala de la Brax. De asemenea am ales sa adaug un burete cu celule inchise pentru a rezista si la apa peste Dynamat X-treme pe fata exterioara de tabla pentru reducerea rezonantelor incintei care erau destul de suparatoare la anumite frecvente. La sfarsit am fost nevoiti sa modificam forma butonului ce actioneaza capacul de alimentare cu combustibil si sa-l repozitionam. Au fost de asemenea refacute si incintele ce gazduiau mediile si tweetere pentru o mai buna orientare si un aspect mai placut

Materiale folosite >

- 4 straturi de Dynamat X-treme si Caliber
- 1 strat de burete cu celule inchise de 12mm
- Dynaxorb in spatele difuzorului
- Vata minerala intre fata de plastic si scheletul interior de tabla
- MDF
- Pasta Brax
- Fibra de sticla si toate cele aferente
- Piele naturala

[mitchyz250f]

What I would like to know is the fabrication materials and process for making the a-pillars. BTW, all your work looks amazing. Did you spend much time experimenting with aiming speakers?

[fuscobal]

- 4 layers of Dynamat X-treme & Caliber
- 1 layer of 12mm closed cell foam
- Dynaxorb behind the speaker
- Mineral wool between the plastic face and the inner skin
- MDF
- Brax X-Vibration
- Fiberglass
- Natural leather

As for the A-pillars, the process is simple. U establish the position of the MDF ring holding the speaker and u fix it to the pillar with sticks and glue. After that u strech (wrap ) fabric around the MDF ring and a-pillar for that perfect shape. U then fiberglass the fabric and finish it with either paint or leather ( or any other material of your choice ) !

[mitchyz250f]

Thanks,

You used real leather on the doors?

[fuscobal]

Yes !

[Sephiroth619]

God I love your install. How do you like the UR3 in the A pillars?

[fuscobal]

I liked them best this way as i also tried to aim them towards the windshield or one towards the other. This way i don't miss any detail on the recording. Besides, the coherence between the tweet and the mid is almost perfect being they are aimed the same way (parralel axes) ! I wish i had the space to put the tweet on top of the mid, just like in home speakers !

[cvjoint]

I'm in Bucharest finaly and I quite amazed at how rare (none so far) sq setups are. I've seen half dozen installs in two days and none were remotely sq oriented. I look forward to auditioning! Must be hard justifing your DRZ-9255's lack of 7" flip up panel to your peers mate he he

[cvjoint]

Ok, auditioned fuscobal's system. It's the kind of experience that makes you think...wtf wtf and wtf. The attention to detail in the install as well as the outcome is simply beyond imaginable. The guy did his homework the stage is high, deep, stereo separation is incredible, and the detail is just amazing. There are virtualy no resonances in the door, at least none I could hear and the sub blended in perfectly without delay, overhang or boominess.

It's hard to find a system without flaws like that...makes you salivate. Fuscobal, you should ship your car overseas and compete on an international level...well in other countries I mean, that sure was the best sq setup I've heard by a mile.

[fuscobal]

Thanks for your kind words cvjoint. Glad u liked the system and i hope our country will join EMMA organization as soon as possible !

[fuscobal]

Update. I just replaced the big 12W7 with a 10W6v2 wich i installed at the passenger's feet. I managed to get 20.6ltrs/0.727cuft (filled it with water). The enclosure was made out of 18mm MDF, 3 layers of fiberglass, dynamat extreme and mineral wool. Being the enclosure is a little bigger than the recommended 0.625cuft, the sub goes low enough for my tastes, not with the authority of the W7 but hits faster and more precise !

[bobditts]

looks good but I would redo the carpet if it was mine.

[slow2.2sonoma]

the link om the first page doesnt work for me...

[Weightless]

me neither...I would love to see the setup.

[drocpsu]

me neither. I was really looking forward to seeing it after all the comments.

[Whiterabbit]

that looks like a behringer processor in a new case?

[fuscobal]

Ok guys, no problem. I will upload them here !

[fuscobal]

Part II :)

[epifant]

Thats some nice piece of work! :) But then again, eastern europeans are quite known for their crafting skills, aren`t they?

The Exclusives blends really well with the suede too. "I`m lovin it" ;)

[drocpsu]

wow, that's really nice. Is the stock door panel still behind the newly finished one? It looks like you used it to get the angle of the midbasses right.

[vwtoby]

wow!

what did you use to attach the fabic to the door in this pic?
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1063

[fuscobal]

wow!

what did you use to attach the fabic to the door in this pic?
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1063

Loctite 406. Curiously, although it is a well known adhesive, no one around here uses it, prefering much more complicated sollutions instead :confused:. Today I've also got the Scan-Speak 12M 4631 midrange and buil a 1L sealed enclosure for testing ! :D . I'll let u know the impressions !

[Luke352]

Hey a fellow Loctite user thats what I used for my A pillars but most people use staple guns etc... The loctite works great only problem is your picking it off your fingers for the next couple of days. LOL

[fuscobal]

Well, that's why chirurgical gloves were invented :)

[andy12]

hi fuscobal,
i'm curious, where are the 8" midbass aiming at, did you just mount it on the custom fiber door panel? or it is mounted on the metal door.
is your's a 2 seat setup?

[Luke352]

chirurgical what ? i've never heard of those ones. I'd use some kind of glove if they werent going to stick. Oh I should also say that I absolutely love the install looks amazing.

[fuscobal]

I found some here that doesn't stick to the hand and are easy to work with but i forgot their name. Right midbass is like 15 degrees to the ear and left about 45 degrees ! They are mounted on an MDF ring conected to another MDF piece wich is fixed to the metal skin. The 2 MDF are making between each other the angle specified earlier and are very rigidly conected with fiberglass and Brax X-vibration ( something that hardens like concrete ) !

[Sportsterdanne]

Can you open the glove box (or what its called in english?) with that angle on the right midbass ?

[fuscobal]

Nope, not really. I was aware of this problem since the beginning but the shape of the cut in the inner metal skin didn't allow for other angles/depths of the speaker !

[GlasSman]

Could you have mounted them a few inches back to clear the glove box?

[fuscobal]

Nope ! As i said it was the only option unfortunately. They are pretty deep !

[JayBee]

That is one seriously sweet front stage. superb work.

[CRAM V]

Just came across this thread, I know it's an old one, but I just recently bought a GTI, and while I was searching for some component info I came across this...started looking @ the pics and said...holy crap...that's my car!

Awesome install....really really nice job!

[8675309]

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/appl.gif

Bravo

[Sephiroth619]

Fuscobal, did you originally have the Iridium 6.3's or the 8.3's?

[fuscobal]

Iridium 6.2+ UR 2.5. In the meantime, I changed the UR's with Scans 12M and the stage is even better now. I've also found a better orientations for the tweeteers and I'm working on it. Once i'm done i will post pics !

[Daniel4802]

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4319/caryx5.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caryx5.jpg)

Did you alter that housing to fit your 1" tweeter or was it a pre-fabricated peice that you purchased to replace the factory peice? I want to fit my Seas Neos in the same spot for my vehicle and would like to either buy or make that.

[fuscobal]

I modified the factory one !

[Hi There]

fuscobal,

First off, wow...that kind of attention to detail is certainly admirable and something for me to aspire to.

Second, looking at the pictures would lead me to believe that your tweets are mounted so as to aim at the opposite listener's ear, is this correct?

You car is set up very similar to mine (from the factory at least), and your tweets are similar in size (I got a 6.5" Nobelium two-way set with similar guard/grilles attatched)...in the factory locations in my Acura TL, my passenger side has a vent running right underneath the stock tweeter location...not to mention, they are aimed straight up and rely on the windshield reflections to widen the soundstage. I anticipate problems with frequency cancellation and peaks due to this setup if I choose to mount the tweets in the factory locations. I'm still wrestling with the look of these Nobellium tweets...I mount them in the A-pillars, and I have a non-stock looking thief attractor in my daily driver. Mount them in the factory dash, and I have poor aiming (but I have heard good staging with aftermarket tweets in the stock location in the TL....good, not great). I could mount them as you have done, but are they too far toward the back of the car to offer good stage depth to the vocals (I forget, you have a 3-way setup)? Decisions, decisions...

Have you heard the Nobelliums? I auditioned them at a dealer in Florida, and was very impressed with the mids, they were really neutral and made for good male vocals, that's why I bought them. The tweets were just a little harsh, but nothing I didn't feel I could overcome with EQ. Do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions in the matter? I have the same 10w6v2 I think I saw in your setup to back them up.

[fuscobal]

Haven't listened to the nobeliums yet but I suppose they are not too different from the iridiums. I recently replaced the UR mid with Scan-Speak revelator 12M installed in the dash and aimed directly towards the windshield. My stage is beyond the car's limits even with the tweeters mounted as u say. I will post pics with the new midranges soon because now I'm working a little on a new aiming of the tweeters ! Ur and Iridiums are very good midranges for the money ( In my country they can be had for under 200$) but Scan-Speak is even better. The stage is far more precise and it goes lower being it's a cone driver. Both are pretty neutral but the scans are more laid-back !

[fuscobal]

As the system underwent some changes over the time I'll upload more pics :

[fuscobal]

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7008/40699760rb9.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40699760rb9.jpg)

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8163/gti1jj0.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gti1jj0.jpg)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8441/gti2tw2.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gti2tw2.jpg)

[cvjoint]

Sal. omule ce mai faci? Totu arata super bine, pacat ca nu mai apuc sa trec prin Ro. in viitorul apropiat.

We managed to get some audiophile meetings around here in Cali. too!

[Tonyguy]

damn this is a sweet setup.Your front stage is amazing and i hope to have something as strong one day.

[werner406]

good job !

i did a similar subwoofer box

was does you sub box weight ?

[fuscobal]

Cvjoint let me know when u'll get to Romania and we'll meet again :) . Haven't weight the sub box but it has approx. 10kg (23lbs)!

[cvjoint]

Cvjoint let me know when u'll get to Romania and we'll meet again :) . Haven't weight the sub box but it has approx. 10kg (23lbs)!

I think it's more probable that I'll see you around here :o

[jj_diamond]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8610/attachmentphpattachmentdr2.jpg


wow! :o

upon second look....WOW! :o

i wish i was your neighbor. it looks absolutely perfect.

*edit* i just read the posts where you changed the midrange. interesting. and you say it sounds even better after the change. incredible attention to detail man, kudos to you!

[fuscobal]

Thanks. The UR sounded very well but the revelator is even better. The main improvements were imaging and reproduction of the lower voices ! The power of the male voices is now quite good in my opinion !

[Hi There]

Cvjoint let me know when u'll get to Romania and we'll meet again :) .


This is OT, but man, I wish I was back in Romania. My ship (Navy) pulled into port there for a week back in '97, and I did tours of Constanta and the mountains...what a beautiful country!! The atmosphere at that time was electric, there was change going on everywhere, and the women:p were unbelievable. I saw the excesses in government Ceauşescu built (massive structures, behemoth projects that went nowhere, etc.) , and the leftover bullet marks on the buildings from the revolution of '89. Really, really enjoyed myself there, and learned a lot.

[fuscobal]

Glad u liked it here. If you ever to return here let me know and maybe we'll meet. Cheers ! :D

[cvjoint]

I agree on the women :D The best national treasure there if you ask me

[Dillyyo]

As promised, here u are : http://forum.4tuning.ro/showthread.php?t=14303&page=2

Where are you in Romania?! My wife is from Oradea and I will be in the area in and about June.

[req]

do you have any pictures of how you secured the fiberglass door panel to your MDF frame that you mounted to the metal door skin?

i would imagine you made a raised speaker grill that fit at the angle and depth desired, then mounted a second ring on top of this, and cut\mounted the door panel and stretched material over it so when epoxy is applied the top ring will mount flush with the mdf door frame and adhere to your fiberglass mold?

basically a picture (if you have one) with the modified door panel removed is what im asking for. i think i would have gone about it a bit different than you, flushing all my drivers with the surface they are on - but otherwise its a freaking amazing installation.

one hell of a job man. i have a 2004 markIV GTi 1.8t and i have a few things done to it... and you make me want to tear my whole interior apart and build door panels and upgrade my 8" midbass.

sigh.

[fuscobal]

I'm from Bucharest, about 300 miles from Oradea. Req, I think this is what U're looking for. I practically made a tunnel between the 2 MDF frames. The one that holds the driver sits on the plastic face and the other with irregular geometry sits on the metal panel. They are pretty strong connected to each other. Tunnel is made from thick fiberglass covered with Brax X-vibration and there's also foam and mineral wool on the outside of the tunnel ! No door will sound like a good home enclosure but mine it's better in controlling resonances that most I've heard with 6.5" drivers !

[req]

so its not permanently attached to the sheet metal on the door then? is the 'tunnel' permanently attached to the fiberglass door skin you made? if it is, how did you get it to fit in between the fiberglass panel and the sheet metal? it looks like you built a wood template that has a lip for attaching to the sheet metal, and then after you aimed your baffle and glassed your contour, you built the tunnel while the door panel was installed. im not really sure how you accomplished all while building this tunnel through that speaker hole. but im curious :)

how did you secure it to the sheet metal? is it easily removed if any work has to be done to possibly the door motor or such things? and how did you relocate your hatch switch? i assume its prolly just got pressure fittings behind it or something.

like i said, i am seriously thinking about doing something like this, i hate the door pockets in my mark4 gti - i cant do any aiming with my midbass because of them. i only worry that i will not be able to find anyone who can\would stitch the leather\vynl if i did this.

[fuscobal]

Nope, it's not permanently attached. U can see the screws that tighten the whole assembly door face/tunnel to the metal panel. If u remove the driver and then the screws U can then take out the plasticfiberglass face of the door. As for the gas button, I cut the plate holding it to that rectangular shape and relocated it to the place U see now. If I recall well it was glued to the door face on the back. The hole on the face is few millimeters smaller on the perimeter of the rectangle and the thickness of that plate that hold the button is about equal to the one of the leather so they finally came to the same level !

[req]

alright, but how did you make the tunnel part after you made the fiberglass door panel?

you mounted the door panel with that boxy MDF frame on the sheet metal, then glassed the two together only with access to that small hole? did you just use dowels and glue to suspend the boxy frame on the sheetmetal from the rear of the door panel, then stretch material off the back?

i have a few ideas of how i would do it. im just scared other people will be kicking them more often than not :(

my car is a daily driver.

[fuscobal]

Hmm, it's a little hard for me to explain in english with the proper words but here I go > On the plastic face we have 2 frames, a circular one that holds the speaker and a "1" shaped one. Between them there's the tunnel. The "1" shaped one (8mm MDF) attaches to the metal skin through a identical frame that remains on the metal skin. Now, the 2 "1" shaped frames sit where the original plastic face was (the door also had a pocket wich dissapeared ). So, the tunnel's length is about equal to the pocket of the door that disspeared (on that pocket is the original location of the gas button ). That space was filled with foam until the 2 frames that form the tunnel and after the foam became hard as a rock it was easy to fiberglass over the foam. So, the fiberglassing was done with the plastic face removed. Hope I made it clear this time :) !

PS : This would probably be the most relevant picture for understanding while comparing it side to side with the final panel > http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1062&d=1164278031

[req]

i understand how you did it. i would most likely do it a little differently, but i know what you did now :)

last question. how did you get the ca glue (aka loctite) and epoxy to adhere to that plastic permanently? i have had very bad experiences with glue and epoxy sticking to ABS and PVC plastics. it does not look like you prepped the surface of the door in that last picture and im not quite sure if i would trust that fiberglass surface sticking to the door panel permanently if you know what i mean.

so, what precautions did you take to make sure that the fabricated door does not detach from the plastic door panel?

thanks for your tips so far :)

[fuscobal]

Bad experiences with Loctite ? That's weird. I had absolutely no need to prepare any surface before. Loctite was perfect for the job. U just have to push on the spot u used loctite for max 10 secs ! Loctite 406 that iz ! :)

[xtwistedx]

i wish i had the tools to do all that :(

[GlasSman]

fuscobol....those door panels are AMAZING!

I actually have those pics saved on my hard drive....thats the ultimate compliment from me.:D

[fuscobal]

Glad U like them. I will probably soon cover all the elements in Alcantara but I'm still running some tests with a tweeter !

[$rEe]

Hi,

You can push the volume loud enough without having to travel too with 21?

[$rEe]

Vous pouvez pousser le volume assez fort sans avoir trop de débattement avec des 21cm ?

[fuscobal]

Like any car door, mine has some problems at high levels but luckly I am not listening at high levels ! Why putting the question in 2 languages ? Any of them would have been enough ! :)

[$rEe]

Like any car door, mine has some problems at high levels but luckly I am not listening at high levels ! Why putting the question in 2 languages ? Any of them would have been enough ! :)

J'etais pas sure de ma traduction en anglais.:D

[jj_diamond]

As the system underwent some changes over the time I'll upload more pics :

i just noticed you removed most of the dash. you are an inspiration to DIY!!!!!:p

[jj_diamond]

how did you test for dash placement? or did you just go for it?

[Candisa]

:cool: Nice work!

greetz,
Isabelle

[fuscobal]

I just went for it since it would have been pretty difficult to test it before (tryied with a small MDF enclosure but it didn't fit between the dash and the windshield) !

[benny z]

do you have any updated pictures of the completed new mids in the dash?

beautiful install. inspiring!

side note, i visited romania in '95. beautiful country.

cheers!
- ben

[jj_diamond]

I just went for it since it would have been pretty difficult to test it before (tryied with a small MDF enclosure but it didn't fit between the dash and the windshield) !

awesome. thank you. :D

[fuscobal]

Ok, it's time for an update. After having listened some very good car-tweeters on my system (Focal Utopia Be or Brax Matrix), I've decided something was missing relative to home tweeters that I've listened to in some very nice speakers like Sonus Faber, Chario Academy Millenium(my speakers), Opera Callas, Wilson Puppy... When the opportunity occured I've decided to try the Scan-Speak D2904/710002. What followed can be seen in my signiature :D . I was immediately blown away by the linearity, top end sparkle, detail, air/space and ambiance. I've heard no car tweeter to compare with theese although I've listened to most expensive ones !

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8200/41461um2.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41461um2.jpg)

[James Bang]

Great stuff. I really like the install and I bet it sounds great. I see Romanians do it big in car audio (cvjoint :)).

[fuscobal]

Very interesting fact. About 2 weekes ago, I've changed my cheap very thin cables with the most expensive cable from Aurix and the sound changed considerably for worse. I had to switch back to my cheap cable and everything is back to normal now ! :)

[AdrianD]

Will I get to hear your car in the EMMA finals at Cluj ? :p

[fuscobal]

I don't know for sure !

[roque]

Awesome!

[khanhfat]

sick install, lucky i move over this thread when i was searching for hatch back install for my friend :D nice set of VRX even though theh ones i want is out of my budget.

[lyttleviet]

That door panel is just freakn SICK.

[backotruck]

Swizeeete:blush: