1998 MK3 Golf Wagon!! Sound install And more

[glidn]

Here you can see the last install i did for a friend.

2003 R32 Golf install

A few issues i have to take into account.For this car i'm doing.

1. It has a MK4 dashboard, so it's already almost 30mm wider either side.
2. Mk4 dashboard, has a different shape.
3. Mk4 skin is longer in length but shorter in height, mk3 door cards is shorter in length but longer in height.
4. Maintane an OEM look about it. Still have to fit 6 1/2" mids in the door and maybe even tweeter too.

will post pictures shortly.

Idea of the system above all was to be OEM integrated as much as possible. As most speakers available here in NZ are not simply a drop in item behind factory grills. I had to go search for these speakers. Also other hurdle i had was to make this system as cost effective as possible.
But i told him i refuse to Skimp on the Radio. So radio is new and Subwoofer/s wil be new.
I think that is about all at this stage.

System Specs:
Headunit
Pioneer P80RSII - Where not suppose to be available to NZ
CD-IB100II - Ipod Control Unit

Speakers
1x Pioneer TS-C1620's Front
1x Pioneer TS-C1625's Rear Fill

Amps

Either Be
Pioneer GM-X904 maybe x2 50 - 75Wrmsx4
or More likely
E-Audio 480Ab - 80 - 100Wrmsx4
Alpine MRD300

Sub/s
either
RE Audio 8" maybe x2 These are DVC 4ohm
or
Polk MM2084 maybe x2 These are SVC 4ohm
or
Polk MM2104 single - This is SVC 4ohm

[glidn]

here are the back doors done.

Stuck all the wiring down, so no shaky shaky or rattle rattle.
Will wrap wiring in Ensolite if I can get someome to ship it to NZ.

[glidn]

Sub box work yet to do the glassing, been so damn wet and cold have not been able to do fibreglassing.

[glidn]

and finally the really hard bit, i have to make a combo front MK4ish panel and the rest with mk3 door skin, once complete it will then be housing a single or dual 6.5" speaker set and also mk4 door window switches and mirror switch, which will be able to be popped out as if it was 100% stock in usability.

as you can see, since the MK3 has a mk4 Dash board, i have virtually no room what so ever to work with, so i have had to go to strange resorts.

[glidn]

and the final up date. what i originally intended to do.
Mould a Mk4 front and build it to the door


But this did not work so i had to resort into making a mould of the side of the dash and building that instead. So i have no idea how this is going to turn out. But will have to see how i go.
As you can see is how much of the door skin has already been cut away.




And then finally The sub box is ready to be glassed.

[riceaterslc]

looks great so far. how are you planning on running the gauge cluster? will you have any immobilizer problems?

[glidn]

nope all sorted running a 24v vr6 from a mk4 jetta in there.
So ECU, wiring,engine and Key all talk to each other.

But have figured out how to run IMMO3 clusters in IMMO2 cars. It's awesome get a few nice new additions.

[semipimpedauto]

why didn't you buy a mk4

[glidn]

haha good question, firstly it's not my car.
Secondly, in NZ the only wagon spec you get here is this.
MK3 - Auto 2ltr - not even the ABA.
MK4 - auto 2ltr & auto 1800cc. No diesel option, no 1.8T option and no vr6 option.
But i'm pretty sure VW have never released a vr6 wagon other than the old B4 passat wagon.

Also the owner of this car wanted a Jazz blue MK3 Wagon. Go figure.

As pretty much everything but the body of this car being modified. He decided why not just do the stereo while he is at it.

[SiR_Dave]

Tagged this one ..... Love watching your work on the Dubs

[glidn]

SIR Dave - thanks, yeah i have found the inner peace with car audio and Dubs, LOL.
Will post updated pics in

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[Dougie085]

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[unpredictableacts]

pics of actual car please.

[glidn]

Ok so here are some updated pics for this weekend. I tried originally make moulds of the factory MK4 door skin, but alas this will not work. So i decided to do this instead. Making a mould of the dash board itself, as shown in the next few photo's. then while i was at it on saturday, i glassed the rear of the sub. Still unsure if i'll be doing dual 8" or single 10".

Dashboard moulds:





As you can see by this above photo's i'm going to try and do the front corner of the door skin this way instead. I have no idea if this going to work but i guess i'll find out.

the start of the sub box:




by these above photo's you can see i have glassed the rear of the sub box foor the car.
2 things here, all those black dots and line you see. It will be either single 8, dual 8 or single 10 to go in there so i have the 3 lot of lines depending on how the sub box will be built. All the dots you see is potential mounting point i'm thinking of using.
Ultimately i want the sub box mount and you shoiuld not be able to see any of the screw mounting point what so ever. So hopefully i do achieve this.

something else i have been thinking about where you see the strange kink in the glass i cannot explain, because looking at it straight on you can not see that what so ever.
I'll be Liquid nailing most likely something like a 2x4 behind where that kink is. In addition i''ll be doing that on the other side. So i can mount the rear of the sub box from the inside too. Hopefully giving additional bracing.

Now the last thing you will notice it's build into the left rear corner of the boot to hopefully give it a couple of DB's boost, in the lower frequency to make the sub really shine.


and lastly The Headunit i'm installing in the car:
Pioneer P80RSII

I still have no idea where i'll be mounting the tweeters for the front. I will try a few different places and go from there. Hopefully not on the A pillars, as the idea of this car is to have everything stealth as much as possible. Hence there will be a removable grill of some sorts for the sub/s too..

[glidn]

As requested the picture of the car.


It's the only one i currently have.

May update car photo's at a later stage too.

[glidn]

wow, will have to get a better picture of the headunit.

[glidn]

Wow made it all the way to 5th page before updating.

Ok just a quick update. I have cut the dash moulds down and i'll be glassing them onto the factory door skin over the next day or 2. Just been having pouring rain weather. Hence the delay. Well i need to have this car completed by the 10 of July.

Yes that is correct. I have to finish Doors, Build Speaker pods for front, Mount front speakers and Tweeters,Finish Sub Box, Wire up the system And also Tune the whole car.

Will have setup as follows.

Headunit : Pioneer P80RSII + Ipod control (CD-IB100II)
Front Speakers : Pioneer TS-C1620
Rear Speakers : Pioneer TS-C1625 - Running off of Headunit.
Amps : E-Audio 480Ab or Infinity 5350a
Subs : 2x RE8 - Sealed in approx 16 - 18ltr Box.

Once front of sub box has been built. Will be able to find out exactly what the size of the enclosure will be.

Can anyone please give me some ideas on how they did there sub grills.
I'm trying to have one that pop's in and out. It will be kind of oval.
Any ideas and how to's would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

P.S. Will update pics in the next 2 or so days.

[annoyingrob]

How does a DEH-P80RSII compare to a DEH-P880PRS?

[GlasSman]

Nice progress.

I like the ambitious work on the dash.

Good planning in the back sub enclosure weighing in all your options.

I suggest going with one 10" woofer with a good amount of throw.

8's can compromise extreme low frequency performance.

[glidn]

Originally Posted by annoyingrob

How does a DEH-P80RSII compare to a DEH-P880PRS?

This i cannot answer to sorry, the P880PRS was never available in New Zealand. From what i gather the P880PRS was only made for the States/Canada and maybe in europe?
Cannot confim this thou.

But from What i read technically the radio's are the same specs wise and kind of even look the same. But just have a different product code for different regions in the world.

[quote=Nice progress.

I like the ambitious work on the dash.

Good planning in the back sub enclosure weighing in all your options.

I suggest going with one 10" woofer with a good amount of throw.

8's can compromise extreme low frequency performance.[/QUOTE]

It beginning to look like it might have to be a single 10". Main reason being my supplier i get everything from Is actually visiting/holiday the States at the moment and will not be back for at least another 2-3 Weeks. Now seeing the car has to be done in T minus 6 days i will not have the chance to get the subs from him.

as to the issue with the lower end of the Scale, These RE8's are simply amazing little subs.

So far have managed 141 on the RTA with 2x RE8's in a 1ft3 ported enclosure 4" port x 8" long. and running 1ohm load @ 650WRMS. It was peaking at around 53HZ thou. So little higher in the scale then hoped for. But i felt it also had to do with the VW golf i was using appears to have peak resonance around the 53 - 57HZ range.

Thanks Again.

If anyone if anyone can point me to any ways on creating the multiple grill idea's that would be great.
It has to cover up so that you hardly can notice anything in the car other than looking stock. also it would like to be able to not see one single screw.