07 Tahoe install

[NaamanF]

Here are some pictures of the start of the install in my 2007 Tahoe. Plan on using a computer as the main source to a Alpine PXA-H900. Will also be using a DVA-9861 when I need to play a disc. For amps its a pair of Sinfoni 45x2 for mids and tweets, Sinfoni 90x2 for mid bass, and a Genesis Dual Mono for subs. As for as speakers I plan to use the Focal Be tweeters. For mids it's undecided, and mid bass Dynaudio MW-170. The rack in the pictures is going to go between the rear captains chairs.

[NaamanF]

Here is a picture of the finished bezel for the touch screen monitor. The unfinished part is going to be where the head unit is going to be located in the center console.

The three speakers are the Scan Speak 4" Revelator, Hybrid Audio Legatia, and Focal Be 3W2. Not sure which one I am going to use. I plan to give them all a good listen to in the car before installing the winer.

[cam2Xrunner]

Holy crap. Great equipment. What headunit(if any) are you using?

[NaamanF]

Sorry, edited my post above. I have a lot more done just need to take pictures. I should be installng the rack tomorrow and working on getting it wired up. All the wires are run, just need to get them hooked up. Should be deadening the doors and installing the MW-170s by the end of the day. Hope to have some more pictures up tomorrow.

[jtholley03]

Those will all fit eaily on your dash!

[NaamanF]

Yep. It has a very forward dash the should work out really well. The diffrence between the path length difference from the kicks and dash was only about 5cm.

[03blueSI]

If you decide to sell the 4.5" revelator I am interested already. I was looking at getting some new ones, but don't want to spend quite what they sell for.

[alphakenny1]

wow nice. you got some awesome equipment. keep us updated :).

[jisturm]

Those RCAs are nice looking man.

[jtholley03]

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=243

to test them just stick rubbermaid containers behind them. Let us know what you like.

Do you have an active digital crossover? If not get one.

Put drivers ear level or point them up off the corners at your ears.

Keep us updated.

[NaamanF]

For the crossover/eq I am using the H900 so I shouldn't have a problem there. Here are some more pictures.

The two Sinfoni 45x2 will be under the rear seats. You can see the mounting location and large cut our in the cover panel where they will be located. When all is said and done I will be dying (at least trying) the cover to match the carpet in the car.

The wiring between the two seats is where the amp/eq/computer rack is going to be.

[chad]

Hawtness! I LOVE that aluminum rack!

Chad

[newtitan]

man that is elite , very impressive , two batteries under the hood is REALLY cool

kinda wish i would have waited till these 07's were released. First time I have liked a chevy over the gmc :)

[NaamanF]

First time I have liked a chevy over the gmc :)

I am the same way. I had a 2003 Yukon before this and was planning on getting the 07 Denali until I saw the Tahoes. Much better looking front end. Do wish I had 6.0 liter engine though.

[newtitan]

im waiting on the 07/08 tundra qaud cab ( I like trucks over suv;s for the most part)

if its not all its cracked up t be, I may bet a tahoe, I really like the way they look, the improved engine and dash and the gas subsidy here in CA


so are you putting a screen in the dash? since I noticed the 9861 in the lower console

and how are you putputting the soundcard AND your 9861 to your amps???

[NaamanF]

Yeah I am installing a 7" VGA touchscreen to control the computer in the stock location. I am running a toslink from a E-MU 0404 soundcard to the H900.

[NaamanF]

I now have most of the rack installed and the left side done. Hope to have all of the wiring done by tonight.

[jtholley03]

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=430

If that truly is possitive even tho it appears to be going into conduit silicon around it so it doesn't chaffe over time.

[jtholley03]

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=427

Are those the streetwire terminals that use the smaller fuses? If so they are VERY current limiting.

Nice work by the way.

[NaamanF]

They are Streetwires but without the fuses. I am using 200 amp circuit breakers instead.

The 1/0 from the battery is going through a conduit. I smoothed out the edges and the wire goes straight up through the mount for the fuse block.

[chad]

A fuse only limits current when it's supposed to... That's the point. Untill the melt (break) point it (the fuse) will easily carry full rated load, plus some surge.

Chad

[Big Foots]

DAMN ...very nice work there... :o :D

how much you paid for your aluminium plates ? :)

-Jack

[NaamanF]

Thanks. Well the right side is now done. Time to put the computer on the rack. As far as the aluminum on the rack, I will let you in on a secret. Its actually aluminum covered formica laminate. I built the rack out of plywood first then covered it in the laminate. Don't even ask how long it took. Too long. If I was to do it over again I would probably get the stainless version. The aluminum scratches real easy.

[NaamanF]

As far as price for the Formica, it was about $200 for a 4x10 sheet. Not cheap but once you get an idea in your head nothing else will do.

[shinjohn]

Nice work here! The formica does really give it that "functional" look and it matches great with the amps. Great attention to detail on all that you've done.
Quick question:
Will you be covering the center amp, or are you planning to trim the threaded rod? Just curious! :D

[NaamanF]

It's all going to be covered so it looks like a center console. Sides will be carpeted and top will be vinyl to match the center console. Maybe some cup holders and a 32" plasma to finish it out. :o

[NaamanF]

Phew, the computer is in. Talk about stuffing 50lbs of shit into a 10lbs sock. Also you can see the back cover with the exhaust fan. The Aerocool unit is a fan controler, temp sensor with alarm, and a firewire/USB/SATA/cardreader. I did a lot of searching for quiet fans that could also do a good job at moving air. Hopefully they do a good job and I don't have to listen to the screeching of the alarm.

[toolfan91]

Thats looking awesome man :cool:

[NaamanF]

Little update. Cut the doors for the MW170s and test fit them. Still need to deaden the door. Installed a temp screen into the dash. I plan on using a transreflective, just need to wait for them to be available. Should be glassing the passenger side for the sub tonight.

[zfactor]

so far pretty nice man... not to shabby at all... the dash piece looks pretty clean...

[septimus]

Wow, very impressed. That install looks awesome, can't wait to see finished pics.

[NaamanF]

More work done on the sub box. Still need to reinforce the inside and cover it. Little bigger than I wanted but oh well.

FYI, polyester resin in the eye really hurts. :o I now wear eye protection when I fiberglass. Being a pilot I think my eye sight might be important :rolleyes:

[Finleyville]

FYI, polyester resin in the eye really hurts. :o I now wear eye protection when I fiberglass. Being a pilot I think my eye sight might be important :rolleyes:

Very nice work! I am looking forward to your final result.

OT: Do you fly commercial or military?

[NaamanF]

Thanks. Military. OH-58D.

[jtholley03]

Nice job on the box!

Why didn't you just run some IB's in the floor of the back. Cut some holes and use PVC on the bottom end for protection.

I am going to run my 8's up front like that and 12's in the back same way.

Keep the pictures coming.

[NaamanF]

I wanted to keep the back open so I can put stuff there. I was going to put 8" IB in the rear door but after doing one it sounded like ass. I thought only a 8" would fit up front but the 10" ended up fitting. No foot room lost for me :p

[NaamanF]

Sub is done. Phew. Not super happy with the carpet match. It looks better in person but still not a great match.

[camflan]

amazing work, waiting to see it complete

[bigwise1]

looks good. what kind of sub?

[squeak12]

Looks like a JL W6v2

[NaamanF]

JL W3v3.

[newtitan]

while extremely creative , why not put the subs in the rear of such a large vehicle?


and wont the passenger have a really decreased foot lounging area?

[NaamanF]

On a day to day basis I would rather loose 8" of foot room for the passenger than use of the rear of the vehicle. I seem to take me third row in and out a lot and having a box in the rear would be a pain. I do plan on making a large box with 4 or so 12" or 15" subs just for going shows.

[crash813]

I gotta ask.........is that a roach fiberglassed into the bottom of your sub box? :confused:

[jay]

looks like some swirly marks courtesy of a black marker to me....=P

[NaamanF]

Jay is right. I was marking where the magnet of the sub was about 2mm from the box. Before I put the sub in the box I layed some deadener and ensolite, didn't want it touching the sub.

[jtholley03]

Have an off topic ?

Not sure if you have owned any previous Ho's or Yukon's.

I was waondering if you had any wind noise around the door seals. At hi speed with a cross wind for example.

Supposedly the general opening shape and seal method is the same. I have seen where GM changed the shape of the seal to help with that wind noise.

[NaamanF]

I actually had a 03 Yukon before this. The wind noise is definitly quiter on the newer models. I don't know if the crosswing noise is specifically better, but it's better overall.

[bigwise1]

any updates? anxious to hear reviews of the focal 3w2 and jl w3v3.

[NaamanF]

Coming soon. I have done some listening to the three sets of mids. I need to do some more to really get a good feel for them. As for the 10W3 so far so good. I have not cranked it because I wanted it more for SQ upfront bass. For that I think it does a very good job. More to come when I get some time.

[NaamanF]

Back to work...Baffles made for mids and tweets. Installed transflective monitor in dash so I can see the screen in the sun. Painted dash pieces to match monitor bezel.

[ArcL100]

Amazing install! Keep up the updates! :D

-aaron

[NaamanF]

I am now trying to find the best positioning of the speakers. I think I am going to take a couple days and get the best position posible.

As for the Be mid/tweet. When I first got them going today I could swear someone was sticking a pair of scissors in my ears. But after running them for about four hours and playing with the position I am starting to like them. Either they are getting better or my ears are now shot.

[newtitan]

SIMPLY F###N ELITE Man WOW,

you should really send that in to car audio mg, and try to get a feature

[rbenz27]

Nice baffles. Is it going into the doors or kicks?

[NaamanF]

Actually the A-pillars. They are both ABS and the one on the right has the metal insert with the protective plastic over it. I am also going to build a set for the Scan 4" Revelator and see what I like best.

[toolfan91]

Actually the A-pillars. They are both ABS and the one on the right has the metal insert with the protective plastic over it. I am also going to build a set for the Scan 4" Revelator and see what I like best.
Cant wait to hear your results :D

[STI<>GTO]

Awesome components and install work! Very impressive.

[NaamanF]

Thanks for the kind comments. Good motivation to keep going. Well back to work. Baffles for the Be tweets and Scan Speak 4" built. Time to do some more listening.

[datac99]

As far as price for the Formica, it was about $200 for a 4x10 sheet. Not cheap but once you get an idea in your head nothing else will do.

Damn buddy... I get the weight savings and all... But damn... I pay $15/LB for any type of aluminum I want...

[NaamanF]

Yeah. Wish I had the Formica hook-up.

[datac99]

Yeah. Wish I had the Formica hook-up.

The $15 a pound is just market for scrap aluminum out here... It's not the formica stuff... But it could have worked.

[NaamanF]

I guess I am lazy. Much easier to cut and trim router Formica than aluminum. And it's already finished.

[edwelly]

Love the pics of the system!!!! Keep them comming, please.

Alos, love the doggie!!!!!

[datac99]

I guess I am lazy. Much easier to cut and trim router Formica than aluminum. And it's already finished.

You have a good point, heheh I'm still milling in 103+ degree heat... You may have to tell me where you got that Formica for the next project ;-)

[NaamanF]

Time to do some more work This stuff always seems to take longer than planned. I am going to try and get the kick panels done today. I have decided to go with the 4" Scan-Speak mids. But I am going to make an adapter plate so I can still use the Be 3W2 mids in the future if I wish. I think they both sound very good with the edge going to the Scans. But then again I don't think either is really broken in. If space was really tight I would have used the Be mids.

UPS came by with some more goodies. Four 12" Dayton Reference subs. What a great (built) sub for the price. I was going to use four JL 12W6v2 subs untill I saw these. Four for the price of one :D They will each be getting about 1.25ft in a sealed MDF/Fiberglass box. I have two black JL 1000/1 amps on the way for power. Should be fun. 15Hz here I come.

[NaamanF]

Waiting for the resin to dry. I am using white water resin this time around. It is more shock and crack resistant than normal resin. Just takes a long time to fully cure.

[Pb2theMax]

I'm using the same subs. Pretty beefy huh?

[NaamanF]

Yes they are. How do you like yours? If they play like they are made we should be in business.

More done on the kicks...

[NaamanF]

Covered with grill cloth and resin.

[shinjohn]

Dude, awesome work. You really have some incredible fabrication skills and ingenuity too. I like your style as well as attention to detail. Can't wait to see how it all turns out when it's finished! Keep it up!

[NaamanF]

Thanks again.

Time for vinyl!

[NaamanF]

Done. Time to do some grillin' :)

[NaamanF]

Grills are done!

[ArcL100]

Can't say it enough. Sick sick sick.

-aaron

[bobditts]

those look like focal BE tweets. am I right?

[Antnee77]

Wow, that looks amazing! Well done!

[NaamanF]

those look like focal BE tweets. am I right?

Yeah it's the Be tweets with Scan Speak 4" revelators. Seems to be a good combo.

[shinjohn]

Looks awesome! Very subtle and clean. I like! :D

So it looks like you attached a metal grill to some kind of frame and then wrapped with grill cloth, right? If so, what did you make that thin frame out of, and how did you attach the metal grill? Just wondering...

And thanks for keeping us posted on your progress!!!

[NaamanF]

The frame is 1/8" ABS sheet. I made two templates from the original template for the speaker baffle. One for the frame, the other for the metal grill. I cut the ABS into a strip and then formed it around the template with a heat gun. I superglued (CA) the metal grill to the frame.

[shinjohn]

The frame is 1/8" ABS sheet. I made two templates from the original template for the speaker baffle. One for the frame, the other for the metal grill. I cut the ABS into a strip and then formed it around the template with a heat gun. I superglued (CA) the metal grill to the frame.
Thanks. Dude, I so want to hear how this system sounds!!!!! :D

[NaamanF]

If you ever in this area (Colorado) come down for a listen. Still has a long way to go before it's finished. Still have two rolls of Raamat to lay in the doors and dash. Not to mention the 4 subs in the back.

[ocuriel]

Grills are done!

Those kicks came out real nice. Good job, you should be proud of yourself. A lot of work but worth it in the end.

[NaamanF]

Thanks. Time to start work on the back.

Amps are in!

[STI<>GTO]

Those black JL's are sooooooo sexy.

Awesome work!

[NaamanF]

They should go well with the black aluminum Daytons. I plan to put it all into fiberglass that is matched with the paint on the tahoe. Should look pretty sweet it I can pull it off.

[rbenz27]

No longer using Sinfoni's and the DM?

[NaamanF]

The Sinfonis are running the tweeters and mids and the Genesis is running the midbass. The Jls are just for the subs.

[rbenz27]

Ahh I see. Get a 150.2 or a DMX for the sub :D :D :D

[NaamanF]

I was thinking about it. These were cheap though. Already sunk to much into this.

[NaamanF]

Couple O' pics of the sub box. Framed and fleeced.

[bobditts]

looks good except maybe the fleece on the right side could be pulled a little tighter to avoid filling it in with bondo later on. great job!!!

[Antnee77]

Wow, I can't wait to see it after fiberglass. Nice enclosure!

[shinjohn]

Lookin' good.

[slow2.2sonoma]

this is the sweetest car ever...

[dlechner]

this is the sweetest car ever...

Yeah, but it sounds like crap :p !

[slow2.2sonoma]

why would you say it sounds like crap, you havent even heard it...

[NaamanF]

He is just messing with me. I think he is the only person to hear it.

[bobditts]

any new pics to update us with?

[NaamanF]

Not really. I have done same sanding and filling on the box. I will have it at Dave & Busters.

[dlechner]

why would you say it sounds like crap, you havent even heard it...

Ummm, yes I have! And YES it does sound like snot! :o

[bobditts]

i heard it and i want to steal it :D hey naaman, do you have a partslist of everything you had to put together to get you carputer to work?

[NaamanF]

Not really. But if you have any questions I am sure I can help.

[bobditts]

maybe next time we meet up we can make a list and put together a DIY?

[NaamanF]

Yeah sounds good.

[slow2.2sonoma]

where are you guys located anyways?

[bobditts]

naaman is colorado springs and im in denver

[slow2.2sonoma]

to bad im in texas. id love to hear your system, oh well mine will be very similiar once i get it done...

[bobditts]

i dont know. naamans is pretty sweet. hes got a carputer to control everything. and hes got utopia BE tweets.

[NaamanF]

PHEW! Finally got the Ol' ghetto sub box painted. To bad my home made paint booth sucked. I made a filtered fan and the filter material blew into the "booth" and messed it up. Looks like I will have to do it again in a real paint booth. Other than the littel fuzzys it looks pretty good IMHO.

[niceguy]

Very nice job and color choice....Painting w/o a full fledged shop is a pain...I'm fixing to repaint my Grand Voyager in my 2 car garage but it's still going to be a huge pain....

Jeremy

[NaamanF]

I think I might re-do it in a paint booth. I have access to one, I just wanted to try it in the garage. Not again.

[ocuriel]

That is hot!

[NaamanF]

Very nice job and color choice

Jeremy

It was actually easy. It's the same color as the car. I think it goes well with the black JL amps and the all black cones of the subs.

[bobditts]

daaaaaaaaaamn Naaman!!! Thats a whole lot better than the last time I saw it. Cant wait to hear it! I bet it will pound. It looks pretty amazing by the way!

[solacedagony]

Yea, this whole install is just totally awesome. I love coming back to this thread :)

[shinjohn]

Awesome job. Very clean! Keep up the good work, and thanks for keeping us posted!

[loddie]

What happened to the Colorado meet that was supposed to happen? I'm in the Springs and I'd like to meet sometime. I am just beginning a new Beetle install and will also be doing the carputer thing. Nice work BTW :)

[bobditts]

that happened a long time ago loddie. Im sure we will have another. Just keep your eyes glued to the postings.

[NaamanF]

What happened to the Colorado meet that was supposed to happen? I'm in the Springs and I'd like to meet sometime. I am just beginning a new Beetle install and will also be doing the carputer thing. Nice work BTW :)
If you need any help on the carputer side let me know.

[loddie]

there was a meet scheduled for Denver/Springs on ECA for yesterday. :( I guess Matt slept in as Bob predicted.

[NaamanF]

We should try and schedule another, a little further in advance this time.

[loddie]

I'm interested. Were you able to source the resin and fleece locally or did you use mailorder? Is it necessary to reinforce the fleece with fiberglass or is it sufficiently strong enough on its own?

[NaamanF]

You can get resin at Dales paint. I like to use the white water resin from Plasticare in Denver. They will ship it to you for less than gas that it takes to drive there. The fleece is from Walmart. It needs a lot of reinforcement. I used about 5 layers of glass.

[loddie]

Thanks Naaman. Do you use fiberglass mat or weave as reinforcement? I couldn't tell from the pics. Do you also source your fiberglass from Plasticare?

[NaamanF]

Mat. I get it from Plasticare. They have it on a big roll. There is a plastic place in town but I don't know if they have resin.

[bobditts]

hows the install coming, Naaman? Have it hooked up yet? How does it sound? Hey, do you happen to have a pic of the inputs/outputs of your h900?

[NaamanF]

hows the install coming, Naaman? Have it hooked up yet? How does it sound? Hey, do you happen to have a pic of the inputs/outputs of your h900?

Still working on it. Needs some parts to come in the mail. Which H900? :)

[bobditts]

what do you mean which one? How many you have? Im just cuirous as to what the 8 outputs are.

[NaamanF]

I picked up another. Can't have just one you know. As for the outputs, they are

HI L/R
MID L/R
LOW L/R
REAR L/R
SUB L/R
CENTER

That's 11 ouputs.

[bdubs767]

wanna sell me the extra :D

[NaamanF]

It's actually for the '79 T/A when I get to it.

[bobditts]

so how adjustable are the crossovers for the outputs? Just because one is labeled for low is it restricted to certain freqs or could you run it as a second mid if you wanted?

[NaamanF]

Yep. The only one that is limited is the SUB.

[bobditts]

nice. so it sounds like its worth the money. wish i was a rich officer pilot! haha. instead im stuck here earning mcdonalds pay with great benefits. Thanks for keeping me somewhat busy on another 12 hour mid shift.

So what parts are you waiting for in the mail?

Hey, question about plasticare. I dont see any prices on their site. How do you order stuff from them online?

[NaamanF]

Some 90 deg toslink and RCA adapters.

Plasticare. I just call them.

[bobditts]

nice. so did you put the new H900 in the tahoe to replace the somewhat broken one?did you buy it new or used?

[NaamanF]

That's coming up when I get the parts. I wish I could find a new one. With out the new price of course.

[bobditts]

ofcourse. i think im gonna get a second job and save up for the H990 and a nice touch screen to match.

did you end up repainting your box or are you happy with what you have? I think i remember you saying you wanted to repaint.

[NaamanF]

ofcourse. i think im gonna get a second job and save up for the H990 and a nice touch screen to match.

did you end up repainting your box or are you happy with what you have? I think i remember you saying you wanted to repaint.


I painted it again. Still don't like it, but oh well it will have to do for now. You will have to get all three Alpine F1 pieces if you want the H990 and a Alpine monitor. Might want to get two jobs. Actually a guy on carsound is selling all three.

[bobditts]

whats the 3rd piece?

[NaamanF]

The DVD/CD player.

[bobditts]

so they dont have a double din touch screen that has a built in dvd/cd player that can hook up to the 990?

[NaamanF]

Nope. Open your wallet and give it all to Alpine. With the new F1 stuff they use a new digital bus that has the digital audio and control on the same wire. You have to use their headunit with it and can not hook another digital source to it.

[bobditts]

wow. looks like i might have to rethink my ways. oh well. a man can dream. sometimes i wish i was a successfull thief. lol. ok I dont. Ill just have to visit you more and drool on your stuff. haha

[bobditts]

so whats the big difference between the 701 and the 900? is it worth the extra cash?

[NaamanF]

The 701 has 8 outputs. The H900 can be tuned using a computer (the way to go IMHO). The big diffrence is how they are made. The H900 uses much higher quality parts. Is it worth it? It's up to your pocket book. Many people have the H701 and are totally happy with it. I would say get the H701 and see how you like it.

[demon2091tb]

How much more is the H900, i got my h701 for a little over 300, and am still in love with it.

[NaamanF]

You can get the H900s for about $2000 +/- couple hundred. They were $4000 new.

[TheDavel05]

More Pics please... This is dave who you met in denver with the red subaru by the way... I have made no progress on my project as of yet... still waiting for a new DSP

[NaamanF]

Hopefully I will have the subs done this weekend and will have more when it's done.

[bobditts]

dave, thats cause you are too busy working your corner man whore! stop smoking the pole.

Naaman, Im guessing the stuff you were waiting for came in. sweet! Cant wait to see/hear it.

[bobditts]

so is it all up and running or did the snow slow you down?

[TheDavel05]

I may be a corner whore admittedly... but the processor was shipped and should be here buy this week... hope to start the project this weekend

[NaamanF]

so is it all up and running or did the snow slow you down?

Three car garage. Snow no problem. Time is. Hopefully this weekend.

[bobditts]

yeah yeah yeah rub it in rich officer lol.

[NaamanF]

I have bass! Lots and lots of bass.

[bobditts]

that is quite orgasmic! those the dayton HO 12"s? i cant wait to hear it!

[ArcL100]

Lol, while that's really nice, I find it comical that it renders your SUV worthless.

-aaron

[bobditts]

how is it worthless. he can still tow a trailer. plus he designed it so it is somewhat easily removable.

[ArcL100]

Well, not worthless, but it's definately more pretty then space efficient. Obviously it suits his needs, just a personal botherance to see trunk space thrown away like that, removable or not. No biggie, I'm not deminishing the construction in any way, just don't understand the motive behind it - usually it's done more in competitor cars unless this is one?

-aaron

[bobditts]

im pretty sure its cause hes a rich officer in the army and he needed something to spend more money on. Probably the same reason why he has focal BE tweets that cost over a grand. silly officers and their abundance of money. damn im jealous!

[NaamanF]

im pretty sure its cause hes a rich officer in the army and he needed something to spend more money on. Probably the same reason why he has focal BE tweets that cost over a grand. silly officers and their abundance of money. damn im jealous!

It's actually called working hard, saving/investing, and a year in Iraq trying not to get killed.

I was a poor E-3 once. Then E-4. Then E-5. Then E-6. Then a month from E-7. Then a not so poor, but definitly not rich 0. So quite wanking, bust your ass and make rank.

As for the space wasted - It actually is for competition. I plan to go to the USAC fianls next month in Kansas City. I have another sub box with a single 12 that fits behind the third row seat, so I have full use of the rear area. The box was built more for the fact that I wanted to build something a bit over the top, not because I think I need it. When the show is over it comes out and the other on goes in.

[ArcL100]

As for the space wasted - It actually is for competition. I plan to go to the USAC fianls next month in Kansas City. I have another sub box with a single 12 that fits behind the third row seat, so I have full use of the rear area. The box was built more for the fact that I wanted to build something a bit over the top, not because I think I need it. When the show is over it comes out and the other on goes in.


That's what I thought :cool:

It's tits.

-aaron

[bobditts]

It's actually called working hard, saving/investing, and a year in Iraq trying not to get killed.

I was a poor E-3 once. Then E-4. Then E-5. Then E-6. Then a month from E-7. Then a not so poor, but definitly not rich 0. So quite wanking, bust your ass and make rank.



ouch, Naaman! lol. actually Id rather become a contractor and get rich quicker. Desert money is good too, not sure f its worth it though. Then again, that is why I joined the Air force and not the army.

[NaamanF]

Here are some finished (for round one that is :) ) pictures.

[hc_TK]

that is realy nice!

[bobditts]

im still diggin it! how does it sound now with the subs?

[strong*I*bumpin]

Looks like a show worthy vehicle to me,great job!

[bobditts]

you need some of your engine bay pics, naaman

[ocuriel]

Fantastic work! How do you like the dayton subs?

[jtholley03]

Daytons are good. I had 2 - 12" Titanics (still have the drivers) in an IB at home.

I will try to find a picture of them.

[NaamanF]

They are working out pretty good. For normal listening they are playing 50hz and down. Fill in with the front stage nearly seamlessly. I actually only run with two of them for SQ. The other pair come on for SPL.

[bobditts]

how did you do at usaci finals? any idea how dave with the integra did?

[NaamanF]

I got second in intermediate consumer 601+ and he got first in intermediate pro 601+ along with intermediate pro best of show. Matt (Audi S4) was second in pro Q and his girlfriend Robyn won basic consumer.

[bobditts]

nice. where is the trophy pic???????

[bobditts]

question about the power classes... how do you go about figuring what class you should be in? is it what all your amps are ated at 4 ohm? or is it the numbers that your amps are actually supply at the impedance they are currently handling? or is it some other method?

[NaamanF]

Add what each channel puts out at 14.4v at 4ohms. Here is the group photo with trophies and cars.

[bobditts]

thats pretty awesome. now you have something to bring along to the next colorado meet and greet. Congrats guy!

what if the birth sheets dont have 14.4 ratings? how do you go about proving to the judges that you belong in the class youre competing in?

side bar: are you running active?

[NaamanF]

They have a database with most amps in it. It's the manufactures rating, not what it actually will do. I really don't think they care if your 601+, it's the 1-600 that you want to make sure you are doing the math right on. I am all active with the H900.

[bobditts]

ok, so with the h900, are the outputs still front and rear, or does it pump out everything and you just set the freqs? I only ask because I plan on putting morel subs in my front doors as mid-bass but im not sure if I should split the front rcas or run the subs off the rear rcas? what do you think?

[bobditts]

also, how much power are you providing your BE tweets? they are only rated to handle 15RMS at 8ohm. just curious

[NaamanF]

Read the specs again. I can feed them about 120 watts each off the Sinfonis. The H900 is set up for High/Mid/Low/Center/Sub. You can pretty much choose what ever freq you want for what ever channel except subs. Left and rights can also be fully independent.

[bobditts]

it says 150max i think. id have to re-look. damn i need a nifty processor. how do you think i should run my setup temporarily until I get a processor? split the front rcas to the sub or just use the rear rca?

[dawgdan]

NaamanF, you get my vote for most jaw-dropping install on the board yet. Also, if that's you standing second-from-right, you are one mean looking sonofabitch.

:)

[NaamanF]

Thanks a lot. I am actually a big teddy bear.

[audionutz]

Naaman,
Matt mentioned how nice your install was and how well you did at USACi during a recent converso, and he directed me to this site for install pix of the Tahoe.
I must say that I am very impressed with the craftsmanship and product selection used in the vehicle. I had no idea the skill that you had tucked away, and from one "stealth-install" truck to another, all I can say is AWESOME SIR! I would love to audition some time.

I wish the JL sub was still up front tho....or did i miss a photo showing it in there with the scan/Be kicks?

And a quick Q for ya, is the screen up front touch-screen interfaced with the 'puter, or are you using wireless i/o devices to tune?

[vwtoby]

did you make grills for the kicks? id love to see the tolerances between them and the speaker rings

awsome work

[Fellippe]

so they dont have a double din touch screen that has a built in dvd/cd player that can hook up to the 990?

If you go to the Alpine F#1 webpage, there is a 7" screen that accomplishes these goals.

But like Naaman said, once you go F#1 you can only go F#1.

:-)

[NaamanF]

Naaman,
Matt mentioned how nice your install was and how well you did at USACi during a recent converso, and he directed me to this site for install pix of the Tahoe.
I must say that I am very impressed with the craftsmanship and product selection used in the vehicle. I had no idea the skill that you had tucked away, and from one "stealth-install" truck to another, all I can say is AWESOME SIR! I would love to audition some time.

I wish the JL sub was still up front tho....or did i miss a photo showing it in there with the scan/Be kicks?

And a quick Q for ya, is the screen up front touch-screen interfaced with the 'puter, or are you using wireless i/o devices to tune?


Thanks for props Steve. The sub was moved to make way for kicks. My original plan was to use the Focal Be tweets and Be 3W2 mids in the A pillars. Unfortunately it sounded like poop. A sub may make it's way up front again in the center console. See how things go.

The screen is a touchscreen VGA connected to the carputer. I just run the F#1 software to tune the H900.

[NaamanF]

did you make grills for the kicks? id love to see the tolerances between them and the speaker rings

awsome work

I did make the grills. If you look back at page 8 you can see what they were made out of. They are a perfect fit, nice and snug. Everything was made from a couple templates made from the master.

[bobditts]

hey naaman, i know you told me before but i forget. where did you get the grill mesh again?

[NaamanF]

www.selectproducts.com

[bobditts]

oh thats right. just making sure you didnt mention a local place. thanks bud! So are you 100% happy with your car now or did the judges at usaci give you some new pointers that is goign to force you to change any of your install? or is it just hardcore tuning sessions now?

[audionutz]

Thanks for props Steve. The sub was moved to make way for kicks. My original plan was to use the Focal Be tweets and Be 3W2 mids in the A pillars. Unfortunately it sounded like poop. A sub may make it's way up front again in the center console. See how things go.

The screen is a touchscreen VGA connected to the carputer. I just run the F#1 software to tune the H900.

Hey man, props are given where props are due, and you deserve em ;)

Anyhoo, thats what I thought on the screen, very very classy set-up.

[NaamanF]

oh thats right. just making sure you didnt mention a local place. thanks bud! So are you 100% happy with your car now or did the judges at usaci give you some new pointers that is goign to force you to change any of your install? or is it just hardcore tuning sessions now?

I don't think anyone is ever 100% happy. Always trying to make it better. I think it's a disease. I plan to do some more deadening up front and make some under dash panels. Then maybe some stealth plexi highlights for the amps. The computer is going to get water cooled to kill all the fan noise. I also think I want to make a new trick sub enclosure that fits behind the third row seat. But thats further down the line. And yes it's going to need some good tuning to get the most out of it.

[bobditts]

liquid cooling eh? gonna go for the liquid nitrogen route?? that would be awesome!

[Sephiroth619]

How's the stage height? Are you happy with the tweeters being in the kicks?

Hopefully these aren't repeat questions.

Install looks amazing.

[bobditts]

ill answer for him since hes probably sleeping right now. lol. although he has had more time in it and knows all the little details, I was able to sit in it a couple times and have been thoroughly impressed. since the tahoe is very spacious inside, the mids and tweets in the kicks is perfect because the distance from the kicks to your ears is quite large. this allows for great stage height and soundstage. the sound is very natural sounding and is extremely difficult to pinpoint any minute flaws. am I off track naaman?

[NaamanF]

Some what. I need to work on resonance under the dash and sound staged depth. It does have pretty good height even though the speakers are low. I actually built in another set of tweeters up high but really have no reason to use them.

[vwtoby]

ahh..my bad, thanks for that...awsome work, question... did you remove 1/8" off the baffel and then bend the ABS around it to be the correct size to the original? is the grill flat or is there a little lip that hooks over the ABS?

"The frame is 1/8" ABS sheet. I made two templates from the original template for the speaker baffle. One for the frame, the other for the metal grill. I cut the ABS into a strip and then formed it around the template with a heat gun. I superglued (CA) the metal grill to the frame."

[Ianaconi]

Just amazing mate! Congrats!

Maybe I will be able to listen when I am in Colorado :P

Great job!

Cheers!

[NaamanF]

ahh..my bad, thanks for that...awsome work, question... did you remove 1/8" off the baffel and then bend the ABS around it to be the correct size to the original?


Actually it was 3/16 smaller than the original. 1/8" for the ABS and 1/16" for the vinyl. The grill was cut from a template 1/16" smaller than the original. They were then glued together with superglue and wrapped in cloth.

[internecine]

any links to what Matt with the S4 has in it?

i have the same car and would like to get some ideas from him.

[NaamanF]

Just amazing mate! Congrats!

Maybe I will be able to listen when I am in Colorado :P

Great job!

Cheers!

No problem. I am sure me and Dave can both hook up with you to let you listen to our systems.

[csuflyboy]

any links to what Matt with the S4 has in it?

i have the same car and would like to get some ideas from him.

http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=133051

:)

A few minor things have been updated to look better.

[dlechner]

No problem. I am sure me and Dave can both hook up with you to let you listen to our systems.

NO WAY! ;) Just kidding or course!

Naaman, dude! This is up to like eleventy-million pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, the truck sounds okay at best! It has a great foundation to be a great competitor some day! :p

[Ianaconi]

NO WAY! ;) Just kidding or course!

Naaman, dude! This is up to like eleventy-million pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, the truck sounds okay at best! It has a great foundation to be a great competitor some day! :p


:D

Great guys!!!

Can't wait!

Cheers!

[NaamanF]

Also count Matt's S4 in ;)

[Ianaconi]

Yeah absolutely!

And Robyn's TC :D

[csuflyboy]

Robyn's Scion tC is here:
http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=136480

[Ianaconi]

Yeah! It is an amazing car!
Great job on the system!

[NaamanF]

Thread jacker :p

[dlechner]

:) :D :D :D :D

[bdubs767]

to matt and naa...

never said great job to either of you....but I Love both install nice a clean great work guys.

Wish I was closer to CO to get a hear at both your systems.

[NaamanF]

Thanks. I have a feeling Colorado is going to be kicking some ass next year :D You know we can't ski and ride buffalo all the time.

[bdubs767]

Thanks. I have a feeling Colorado is going to be kicking some ass next year :D You know we can't ski and ride buffalo all the time.


either you wanna put me up so I can hit the slopes out there....the east coast ice mountains are not doing it for me any more. I can kill two birds with one stone :D :D :D :D

[NaamanF]

As long as your not serial killer or dog molester.

[NaamanF]

And east coast snow does suck. Four years at Sunday River is enough to piss anyone off.

[bdubs767]

And east coast snow does suck. Four years at Sunday River is enough to piss anyone off.


funny thing is sunday river is one of the best around :o :o :o

[bdubs767]

As long as your not serial killer or dog molester.


well there was this one time....


lol na sorry to report in I'm neither, jsut a poor college student

[bobditts]

hopefully next year ill be running with you "big dogs" in the comp scene. I know one thing for sure.... ill never win a best of show. My car now has some nice body scrapings to go with the $3000 of hail damage. damn i hate colorado weather.

[dlechner]

hopefully next year ill be running with you "big dogs" in the comp scene. I know one thing for sure.... ill never win a best of show. My car now has some nice body scrapings to go with the $3000 of hail damage. damn i hate colorado weather.

Lets not forget that ALL (Naaman, Matt, Robyn and mine) of our cars are daily drivers!

Go for it Bob, you could soooooooo take Naaman! He is just a lot of tallk!

[bobditts]

lol. its going to be tough at first because im not going to have all of the processing power that you guys do. Once I get a second job ill be kickin it big with you all. I see an alpine w200 and a h701 in my future.

[slow2.2sonoma]

I love friendly competition. Why cant you guys live in fort worth so i can hear your cars?

[evan]

Awesome work. You make it look so easy, especially the glassing. Do you have any pics of how you did the wiring of the subwoofer/amp enclosure you have in the back?

[NaamanF]

Here it is. I made it so I didn't have to remove the amps to take the box out. I have the simple box with the 12" that fits behind the third row seat and uses all the plug-and-play wiring for the larger box.

[lv_v]

WOW. Props for a SICK install.

[lv_v]

I am planning an extensive install in an 07 Escalade, maybe you could give me a few pointers. How much room do you have for the midbass speakers in the front doors? I see you were able to cut it up a little and fit an 8" speaker in there. How much depth do you have for the window? How much room is in front for the door panel? Any chance I would fit a Peerless XLS 8" in there??

[NaamanF]

There is plenty of depth. The trick is making a mounting baffle that is small and strong. I made mine out of MDF and reinforces it with fiberglass. Not sure on the diameter of the XLS but I am sure you can get it to fit. You will have to cut a larger hole in the door and cut some plastic off of the door panel.

[NaamanF]

Looks like it's time to bring this thing back from the dead a bit. I just picked up a new toy that I am pretty proud of. I had the last one for about eight years and it was starting to drive me crazy.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/naamanf/IMG_1406.jpg

I still need to get it all set up and finish the 220v wiring.

I also plan to remove the sub box from the back and build I new one that fits behind the third row seat. I am currently looking for a single 12"-15" that will handle sub duty. It will be powered by a single Sinfoni 150.2X. Is this a hobby or a disease?

[bobditts]

holy mother! Looks like the nice contractor table saws they have at the academy woodshop. nice purchase! definitely a disease btw

[NaamanF]

How did I know Bob would be the first one to reply :rolleyes:

It's actually a cabinet saw. No contractor is going to lug one of these to the job site.

[bobditts]

cuz i live on this site? that is a good point, I dont know anyone whod want to haul that thing around to jobsites. Mind me asking how you got that home? how long is the table?

[shinjohn]

That is a really nice saw. I wish I had space for a tool like that! :D Unfortunately, I don't so I have a (little) Ryobi BT3100. I'm almost finished building a mobile base for it with storage underneath. I honestly think you have two illnesses (if not more): car audio, and tools.
I have three myself: #s 1 and 2 like you, and #3 is golf.

Trust me, if you haven't taken up #3, don't do it!!!!!! There's no way you can really do that one well and have time for any of your other ones. :p

[NaamanF]

I actually have couple others. I am just on these at the moment. Funny you mention the BT3100. If you look at the picture on the right hand side is another saw. It's the Craftsman version of the BT3100. It served me well for the last 8 years but the table and fence were really getting to me. I plan on building furniture for the house, and hated the thought of putting a nice straight piece of maple through that saw and have it come out smaller and not as straight. The only way I see my self ever getting a new saw is for a SawStop. For now I will just be careful.

[bobditts]

any plans for a central dust collection system?

[Sephiroth619]

I'm deathly afraid of those. Everytime I turn mines on, I get hypnotized and stare at the spinning blade for a good 5-10 seconds. I swear, one day I'm going to lose a finger.

Mines is small, Skil or Craftsman, I forget.

[dlechner]

Oooooooooooo! Thats nice! I now know where I will be going to work on the Volvo! ;)

[NaamanF]

You know your welcome any time. Kaiser misses you :p

[coffee_junkee]

Hey Naaman, did you ever consider an upright panel saw? The shop I used to work at part time, made boxes with one. Worked very well and quite a bit less dangerous than a conventional table saw. Angle cuts were the old clamped rip fence, circular saw method. Just gathering opinions for shop when my house is done. Thanks!

[NaamanF]

Never thought about it. I Just wonder how well they would do for finner woodworking than box building. How well can they dado, miter, angle cut, cuts with out tear out....

[STI<>GTO]

B-E-A-utiful!

What router is going to end up in that table? And do you have plans for your old saw? If you need a disc sander, you can pick up one of these (http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00922723000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saw&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes) and make your old saw your sander. Be careful though, at high RPM's that 60 grit can reduce some small parts to scrap pretty quick.

[Arc]

Hey seph. If you are worried (seriously)about table saws there is one you should look into. It is called the SawStop.
http://www.sawstop.com/

It has got some crazy electric sensitive device that stops a blade as soon as something touches it other than wood. They did a demo with a hotdog and it wasn't even cut.

The only bad thing is its really expensive ~2k. But if you are going to use it regularly and have people/kids that do as well, it might be a good investment.



On a side note. really really nice install.

[shinjohn]

I was at Woodcraft last weekend, and got a demo of a bunch of the Festool stuff. I had never seen any of their tools in person prior, but heard alot of good things about them.

I must say I am super impressed with Festool, esp. the circular saw system with guide rail. Really amazing. Though it couldn't replace a table saw completely, I am definitely considering buying one to augment mine sometime down the road. I have a hand made fence/guide system I made up for use with my Skil Mag worm drive saw, and it just doesn't compare at all.

So many tools, so little time. :D

So wasn't this an install thread? :p ;)

BTW, nice Craftsman/Ryobi saw. Great minds think alike!

[dlechner]

You know your welcome any time. Kaiser misses you :p

Werd! See ya tonight!

[csuflyboy]

I was at Woodcraft last weekend, and got a demo of a bunch of the Festool stuff. I had never seen any of their tools in person prior, but heard alot of good things about them.

I must say I am super impressed with Festool, esp. the circular saw system with guide rail. Really amazing. Though it couldn't replace a table saw completely, I am definitely considering buying one to augment mine sometime down the road. I have a hand made fence/guide system I made up for use with my Skil Mag worm drive saw, and it just doesn't compare at all.

So many tools, so little time. :D

So wasn't this an install thread? :p ;)

BTW, nice Craftsman/Ryobi saw. Great minds think alike!


I've got a TON of Festool stuff! Their approach to every tool is innovative and simple. I agree that it might not do as good of a job for the cabinet saws, it's portability and flexibility sold me.

[NaamanF]

B-E-A-utiful!

What router is going to end up in that table? And do you have plans for your old saw? If you need a disc sander, you can pick up one of these (http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00922723000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saw&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes) and make your old saw your sander. Be careful though, at high RPM's that 60 grit can reduce some small parts to scrap pretty quick.


Interesting idea about the sanding disc. I might have to look into it.

The saw came with a Bosch 1617ESV. Wouldn't be my first choice but it came with the saw it was a really good deal.

The SawStops are really nice saws. But expect to pay around $3500.

Festools are nice. That saw is good for quickly squaring up a board without a jointer.

Install? Oh yeah. More to come :)

[ArcL100]

The SawStops are really nice saws. But expect to pay around $3500.

Know anyone that has one? I was always curious about them.

-aaron

[NaamanF]

I do not. The local Woodcraft is installing one as their shop saw though. I am sure once it goes in a can get some feedback from them.