new copyright protection really ****es me off!

[aaron]

I bought the Kings of Leon cd yesterday and did not see the copyright protection sticker on the cover---ok ok I just didnt bother reading it---
As you could guess when I stuck it in my cd burner and copied it -or so I thought -- and played it on my P.C. all I heard was skipping and white noise.... this is very frustrating... after having thousands of dollars worth of cd's (and stereo equipment) stolen I record each cd I buy and use the copy so I have the original in pristine condition... It looks like with the current trend I am going to have to buy an external cd copier that will record on the analog output.
I just had to vent my frustration, I think it's bulls**t that companies are saying there losing money- common copying has been around since the 8 track it's just a different format now. :x

[sqkev]

have you try alcohol 120?

[Casedot]

yeah it sucks, the record companies are losing money because of pirating, but that isnt the only reason. People just arn't buying as many cd's as they used to. I think it has to do with all the new music being shitty.

[300Z]

You need a different burning program... i had one on my old computer that would copy any cd... it would make a perfect copy of the original, even it had scratchs it would copy the scratchs just like the original... but i forgot the name, hasnt used it in a long time... sorry...

[wavac387]

I think it has to do with all the new music being shitty.LOL, at last the truth... declining record sales have almost nothing to do with piracy :wink:

[newtitan]

easy cd extractor will copy almost anything

[drocpsu]

easy cd extractor will copy almost anything

I agree. I've never had a problem with any cd, and I rip everything that I buy. It just lists all the tracks, and if a disk has any kind of software on it as well, you can just select to copy the audio tracks and not the software crap.

[300Z]

where can we download this prog.?

Thanks
Leo

[DS-21]

Or you could just get a well-designed computer. iTunes 4.7 (OSX Panther) pulled the tracks off of the new copy protected DMB CD with no problem. I would have returned the damn CD if they had crippled it so as not to work with iPods or digital music servers....

Mac minis are only ~$575 with an appropriate about of RAM....

[300Z]

Just for ripping songs i use SoundForge... works great... :)

[drocpsu]

Or you could just get a well-designed computer. iTunes 4.7 (OSX Panther) pulled the tracks off of the new copy protected DMB CD with no problem. I would have returned the damn CD if they had crippled it so as not to work with iPods or digital music servers....

Mac minis are only ~$575 with an appropriate about of RAM....

I had no problem ripping the tracks from the new DMB album with easy cd extractor. Just do a search if you want to find where to download it.

[FaintReality]

I make a back-up of all my CD's to play in the car since they get scratched up easily, and have had no problems using Nero.

Dave

[aaron]

Thats the program I use (nero) and it didnt work on this certain cd

[epifant]

I use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to rip all my cd`s to WAV. Although the files grow really large, HDs dont cost enought pr. mb. to make me care. The only thing I could wish for is support for album art for WAV in iTunes.

EAC ripps a EXACT (doh) copy of the bits on the original disc, and does not have any trouble ripping i.e. Air`s newest album Talkie Walkie :wink:

[hcbassplay]

There is a program called macTheRipper for macs that will rip anything... a coworker is using it in conjunction with the blockbuster online service and now has about 150 DVD movies in his collection :shock:

I think that if the music industry would quit signing quick cash one-hitters with only one good song on the whole album... I would be more inclined to buy albums. Paying $17+ for one song and 12 other crappy worthless filler songs that I will never listen to is completely insane IMO, and it is completely insane for the record companies to whine about poor sales with these type of sales tactics. They're doing it to themselves, and I think they are getting exactly what they deserve. They have been raping artists for too long, and it needs to stop.

People whine about piracy taking money out of the hands of the artists, but obviously they don't know anyone who has been in a signed band. Only the BIG names get paid.... 95% of the artists on the radio are getting paid ~ $40,000 a year when all is said and done after they finish paying for all of the back expenses signed in to their contracts. You aren't stealing anything from the artists... their royalties are so insignificant they barely pay back the Record company for all of recording, videos, publication, and distribuiton. The ONLY money 95% of artists on the radio get to actually pocket is what they get paid for each of their live shows. This can be good, or it can be peanuts... it depends on how well they have done for themselves. Either way, this money is in no way linked with their album sales, bands that sell few records can still draw large crowds and make a killing off of touring.

Sorry bout the rant, this is a little irritating to me.

[epifant]

I couldn`t agree more :D

And as a comment to the BIG artist making loads of $$; watching MTV Cribs always make me think "oh.. I better get his latest album. Don`t want him to be short on cash when buying his seventh Humvee".. erhm... not... :lol:

[ZoNtO]

Just use Exact Audio Copy in Secure Mode with a Plextor Premium and rip the CD image as a wav file. Combine that with a cue sheet, and you have unlimited copies that you can burn from your hard drive! (I encode all the .wav images to FLAC to gain 30% or so from compression).

217 CDs compressed to FLAC, each folder with album art, rip log file, and cuesheet comes to just over 60GB! :)

BTW, I've never had a problem with ANY copy protection since I switched from my Lite-On 52x burner to the sexy plexy. It's awesome! The Plextor supports over-read on the Lead In and Lead Out so you can get every bit of audio data, and circumvent copy protection that is in place in those areas.

http://www.ubernet.org/index.php?p=UberStandard

[Ocelaris]

You may need to buy a new CD/DVD burner as that really is to me what changes over time...

You can get a decent (latest greatest) DVD burner which would have no problems physically for 50$ spend another 50$ (100$) and get the plextor which is consistently the best DVD burner/ripper out there (also CDs)

EAC = awesome. just wish there was a better system for putting music onto a car environment than a ipod/iriver interface...

[DS-21]

You may need to buy a new CD/DVD burner as that really is to me what changes over time...

Could the contrary also be true, i.e. that a new drive might have some sort of on-board DRM something that would not be triggered on an older one? I don't know, I'm just asking.

[Ocelaris]

I don't know the answer to that one... But my experience would say that newer ones are better at bypassing any physical problems a copyright scheme is producing.

However it sounds as if there isn't necessarily a problem reading it, but processing it once it has been read? Some copyright protection make it physically difficult to read the CD/DVD, others make the processing impossible (i.e. tell the DVD it has 40000gigs on it)...

If it physically has problems reading the disk and is outputting gibberish, you need a new burner... listen to the drive, it if seems to spin up, and then "tick" or stick in a very scratched disk and listen to what it sounds like when there are optical reading problems with a disk. it's a good idea in my mind to know what "can't read disk" sounds like from a drive, since it happens so often.

The other possibility is that the translating of the data into some audio format is being killed coming out of the drive... In that case, a new burning/ripping program is in order. There will ALWAYS be a newer better faster way to rip/burn, and sometimes you just have to hunt around for a while until you find one that works...

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/

Is a good place to read reviews on devices, also find out what programs they are attempting to use to rip different new protection schemes...

There really is a difference in the firmware, so you might try upgrading your firmware on your drive before setting out to buy a new one:

http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php

[zfactor]

get slysoft anydvd... mainly a dvd program but works for anything you can throw at it, remove region codes, all copy protection and anything else you can find..... the only program that will remove all of the new sony dvd protections... and all you need is nero to worl with it or any other basic burning program. start anydvd let it run in the baclround and viola your ready to burn....

[racerraul]

Or you could just get a well-designed computer...

LOL... You're killing me man... LOL... :D :D :D

[cdj]

If you think that you're CD is bad, here is some discussion of the Sony "root kit" DRM. It would really **** you off!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27501

Apparently the Italians are also ****ed off, because they are suing Sony:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27508 :D

[zfactor]

trhe sony copy protection is easily bypassed i dont know what the issue is here??? like i said use anydvd w/ copydvd and there is no problem with the sony rootkit or any of thier other protections.....??? i use anydvd all the time havent had a single one i could not do and even all the ones on other forums that everyone has trouble with this method works perfect...and if you come across anyhting that cant be done with anydvd at all. you send them an email and they will almost immediatly modify the software to work with it...