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Finally starting a build log for my 05 Monte Carlo LT. A little bit about the car: I decided to go with the red/black/chrome theme, and began adding little accents soon after I got the car.
Red stripe:
Seat/steering wheel covers:
Carbon fiber Di-Noc /vent trim:
Brake calipers. While working on painting the front two calipers, I did a stupid thing and jacked up both wheels. The tire jacks caved as I was taking off one of the front wheels and the weight of the car was resting on one corner of the jacks and the tire. See here :
hmmmm that's funny that's how I've been planning on my build for quite some time lol that an ae sub? Looks like a 15. I have 2 18 fi ib subs but I doubt I'll fit both you look pretty right with just that 15 liol
Yeah man I really don't know how you're going to pull that off. But if you can, all the power to you. I would be amazed. Why do you want two 18s, anyway?
Yeah man I really don't know how you're going to pull that off. But if you can, all the power to you. I would be amazed. Why do you want two 18s, anyway?
Also, yes it's an AE SBP15. A true beauty.
I doubt i'll run them both, but i got them both in the deal so i wasn't gonna pass on it lol just in case, would you be interested in swapping out your 15 for the 18 maybe because if i dont use it, it'll be just sitting in my attic lol thats where they made it to, they were in my room, then my spare room, than ended up in my closit, now my attic lol :laugh: ****ing things are so huge, such a pain in the ass to store
acyually although i havnt posted it, I do have ALL of the gear i need aside from some more cables and a screen, i have the housing and brackets just need the guts but everything else ive got, unless i change my processing again i'm thinking about waiting for the .3 from RF since it'st akings o damn long to get to this anyways, but i doub't the 18's will both fit, 1 wil def fit, but idk about 2. lol just a pipe dream i guess. i might be run an ms-8 acually i was thinking about running an ms-8 and not fus with anything new and just wait for next year when JBL drops thewir new piece which will be probobly the best thing since sliced bread theyve been tweaking it for soooooo long now lol
I doubt i'll run them both, but i got them both in the deal so i wasn't gonna pass on it lol just in case, would you be interested in swapping out your 15 for the 18 maybe
Hah. I browse several forums here, and have been reading all the processor threads as I was searching for my new processor as well. You post a lot, lol. And you post system diagrams a lot too. Makes it pretty easy
They are press-fitted, but extremely so. It was made so that the car could be returned to stock if I wanted it to, yet still be completely sealed. You'd have to use a LOT of force to make the baffle budge even a tiny bit. There are also four small screws at the very edge of the corners of the baffle, but that'll be it. I have yet to test this myself, but Mark has told me that he was able to pull the 3,800lb car with the kicks and the baffle.
In an accident, especially a rollover, you will find out exactly how well they are attached...and you might not like the results. A buddy of mine has permanent brain damage from a sub hitting him in back of the head.
It'd have to break out of the baffle, break through the back seats latched to the back wall, and go through another seat to hit her. If the impact is violent enough to make that happen, I dunno how much difference a couple L brackets here and there would make...
Both are valid points. However, if we are to be concerned with the sub in the trunk, we might as well worry about any loose item in the car, cabin or trunk. So why keep anything but your own body in a car, in case of an accident?
Sounds ridiculous, but... really. Like strakele said, if the impact were severe enough to knock the sub loose, I think it's more likely I'd be danger of getting destroyed by the crash itself rather than debris flying in just the right way.
Either way, both sides are valid. Let's just hope that never happens in the first place.
It's a kin to you going to get new tires put on your car and instead of the guys putting lug nuts on, they tell you, "Well, we didn't put lug nuts on, but we wedged this piece of wood into the holes really, I mean really tightly."
If you can't understand why having a potential lethal projectile is a bad idea, maybe you don't need lug nuts either.
Started post before Ally's above..... damn my A-D-D.... squirrel!
With all due respect from your past audio experience Jason; and not to get into a pissing contest with you.... that analogy is quite a stretch. The baffle is clearly on the opposite side of the bulkhead that supports the rear seats. I believe the opposite assumption to your assumption could be just as valid. As the baffle is plexiglass instead of wood, it would have a higher propensity to crack or shatter in the instance of said assumed collision. If the subwoofer itself is the lethal (or brain damaging) projectile of discussion- how would a "more secure" fittment of said baffle from the backside aid in such and unlikely event. One could make as accurate of an assumption that if the baffle did break loose, it would do so toward the enclosed trunk; thus containing the aforementioned projectile- making for a safer scenario.
I'm not trying to debate the physics and unknown variables of an unlikely scenario and what the outcome would be, but
As far as the kicks... do you honestly think they will move in a collision with all the deadening and stock carpet covering them?
Ally- Looks like you finally have the dream setup. Great work for one of the only gals on this site that "gets it". And by the looks of your response, these guys aren't going to get to you! Keep it up girl!
Also, I guess we now know why Mark has been MIA for the last couple weeks. :laugh:
The only way the sub could possibly make its way into the cabin in an accident is if it broke completely out of the baffle. In that case, whether the baffle is bolted to the car or not makes no difference whatsoever. The baffle itself can't fit through the opening between the trunk and the cabin. The sub can't either, unless it changes angle. And again, it would have to bust through the back seats as well.
I'm not just trying to defend my install here, I'm trying to provide legitimate answers to the concern. I don't want this to be unsafe. I'd like to know how, or if, given this information, you still feel that it is less safe than any other infinite baffle install.
Haha yeah, we know this stuff is nowhere near "bulletproof" polycarb stuff, but I do remember reading somewhere that this stuff starts getting bullet resistant at around 1.25" thick. Hers is 1" thick so I'm fairly sure even a .22 will penetrate, but it'll be a fun test nonetheless.
And yes, fortunately they don't make fighter jet canopies out of plexi
It is halfassed and a very dumb way of doing things.
To each his own I guess...but a pressure fit baffle is plain halfassed. And anyone to say otherwise shows their complete hatchetness in terms of installation ability.
Actually, getting an install to where the pressure fit is part of the benefit is far from "halfassed" as it takes much more effort to ensure a tight fit with an install than to "hatchetness" things with huge tolerances. I hope you don't laser focus on this comment and completely miss the point of my replies.
I see what you did there.... and Mark's installation ability is quite up to snuff. As is others' that may be seen as defending it.
Again- I respect your background and experience tremendously; but how do your comments help those of us that study this site in hopes of gleaning said experience, knowledge and ability you were able to attain from the years of doing installs professionally? What I fail to see is why the flame function on your keyboard has to go full bore in rude mode. But hey, this is DIY forum, so why would folks benefit from constructive criticism or suggestion vs....
How about "I don't know how to put this easily...but I would be concerned with the baffle not being fully secured in the event of a catastrophic accident."
You meant to be rude- don't insult our intelligence on that one.
Hell, why we are at it, let's just pressure fit some batteries in there too...I mean you don't need a tie down strap with the battery cables hold it tight. Right?
You are smarter than that... apples and oranges again. It is pressure fit and then secured with screws in the corners. If it were even to come loose- which is a gross assumption on your part- it can't physically make it through the opening unless at a very specific angle. How in the world does that correlate to wheels without lug nuts or batteries not being secured.
You are going off the rails because someone challenged your gross assumptions and accused you of being rude rather than constructive in your criticism..... for **** sake- that's what you hope for most of the time, hence your user name.
Hell, why we are at it, let's just pressure fit some batteries in there too...I mean you don't need a tie down strap with the battery cables hold it tight. Right?
Ryan, how about you go take the nuts off of the tops of your shocks and struts on your car...they are pressure fitted pretty tightly between the suspension and the shock towers.
How hard would it have been to get some angle steel, pop some 1/4-20 nutserts into the car, make a frame with it and bolt the baffle to that? An hour? And how much safer, secure, and non-resonant would that have been?
I think Winslow was a lil rough on the responses even for him, but I do agree that personally I would never pressure fit a baffle,especially a sub baffle.
theres trim pieces around the edges, how hard is it to even pre-drill and secure it to a frame thats been secured to the car?
Bottom line Ryan, since youre and accomplished installer---Would You Do it that way?
I think Winslow was a lil rough on the responses even for him, but I do agree that personally I would never pressure fit a baffle,especially a sub baffle.
No I wouldn't- especially with plexi..... nor did I actually defend it. All I was saying was that some constructive criticism would have been more in order.
If nothing else, I would have drilled though some holes for 1/4" hex bolts in an inconspicuous place and used fender washers to give as much surface area as possible. A few choice hole locations wouldn't hurt the ability to put back to stock or even raise an eyebrow at resale time.
But I would do so for the integrity of the install and to ensure it doesn't come loose from an equipment standpoint more so than a lethal projectile; simply due to the physical constants of it becoming one. But I'm back to a hatchback- so I drive around with lethal projectiles in the back half the time anyway. :blush:
Dude. Maybe I'm old, but for all the forums I've belonged to (way to fcuking many), grumbling with the mods...not smart. They usually know their sh!t and...um...they wield the ban hammer.
Nah- this isn't an argument; and I have been schooled in the past with said moderators experience and sharp tongue. And, sadly, it's not just what he knows- hell he's forgotten more than I know.
Dude. Maybe I'm old, but for all the forums I've belonged to (way to fcuking many), grumbling with the mods...not smart. They usually know their sh!t and...um...they wield the ban hammer.
All these folks going back and forth, knows their ****. They are just experiencing a difference of opinions No bans coming outta this, unless Winslow decides to make an example outta me haha
Again, looks great Ally. Can't wait to hear it. I hope my upcoming install has some of this "wow" factor!
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