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Default Re: First SQ Install, 2009 Honda Civic SI Sedan Redline Orange Pearl

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Angled rings should work great although you might have to clear the dash since the pods are so close to it already.

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I think you astutely pointed out that the dash would pose a problem with angled rings because of how close the pods are to the dash. So I tried making the "angled" portion of the ring inside of the pod. I haven't dressed the rings yet, but thought I'd solicit yours (and others) opinion on this approach. Here's what it looks like:



Sorry, it's hard to capture the actual angle the ring is providing, but the XR3 is definitely pointing a lot less toward the dash. When I sit in the driver's seat, the XR3 from the passenger pod is almost facing directly towards me. There's still a small angle down to the dash, but I couldn't angle it any further up because the back of the XR3 is butting up against the pod with the angle.

Question I have is whether you (or others) know if there are any adverse effects with the angled portion toward the inside? Is there some negative sideffects that you know off with the speaker being in sort of a "tunnel" for about half an inch to an inch, especially towards the upper part? Not sure if that makes sense, so please let me know if it's unclear. Thanks in advance...

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If I were you I'd make some rings and then some spacers and test the best angle.
Let your ears decide. U can fill gaps with dreading material temporarily and go from there.
I just mount the 3's in the kick
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If I were you I'd make some rings and then some spacers and test the best angle.
Let your ears decide. U can fill gaps with dreading material temporarily and go from there.
I just mount the 3's in the kick
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what's dreading material?

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damn auto corrrect. u can use DEADENING material to seal the make shift baffles till u get the one u want.
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damn auto corrrect. u can use DEADENING material to seal the make shift baffles till u get the one u want.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. Should have put 2 and 2 together but for some reason thought dreading was some sort of unobtanium material I did not know about .

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Looks like your build will do those speakers more justice than mine. Very nice install.

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Default Switched out the amps

I'm working on another build (our minivan) and decided I want to move the Alpine PDX F4 and M6 to it and get new amps for this one. A package showed up at the door last week.



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Specs as some of you well know (although pretty sure there's a typo on the second line and should read 225x4 @ 2 OHM)


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Speakers are wired up as follows...

1 amp handles the left front stage, bridged to 450x2, each bridged channel handling the left midbass and the left XR3M-LE
1 amp handles the right front stage, bridged to 450x2, each bridged channel handling the right midbass and the right XR3M-LE
1 amp handles the sub and rears, with 450x1 to the sub and 225x2 to the rears (rear speakers are 2ohms)

I know, that's a lot of power. I still need to adjust the amp gains as they are all set at the minimum at the moment, but will definitely take advantage of as much power as I can especially to the XR3s. As I learned from a couple of you, the XR3s love power and more power brings out the dynamics in them. I think this setup is not going to be short on headroom .

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Wow, that's a lot of grunt! Awesome install man
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You should pull the plastic off the tops of the P900.4s.

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Nice work! Love seeing the 8ths on here!

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Wow, that's a lot of grunt! Awesome install man
Thanks. Have to give some credit to Ryan (slade1274) as the idea/inspiration of this combo was after reading about his BMW 135i build. I was contemplating getting a trio of Hertz HPD 4s much like he had since I'm using the same XR3s, a pair of mid basses that could also benefit from the added power, and a 4ohm sub in a FG box in the trunk corner, etc. The main reason I ended up going with the PPI trio actually had to do with the form factor. The HPDs are almost a full .25" wider than the PPIs (and that would be x3), and if you guys note in the install, getting the 3 amps side by side to fit in the "60 portion" of the fold down seat is already quite a tight fit. Also looked at the Polk Audio D4000.4 and those were also a shade wider. The price point that the PPIs came in was a pleasant bonus, but that wasn't the primary factor. I've read quite a bit of back and forth as to whether these amps are "the same" under the hood across the forum, and don't want to get into that but just want to set some context as to my thought process for choosing the PPIs .

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Thanks, but already did that before powering up the amps. I took the pics beforehand as I chose to keep the plastic while setting them on the amp rack, and mounting them...just as an extra layer of protection .

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Thanks...been following your build which I'd have to say is quite a bit more impressive than mine. Good luck with yours!

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Thanks! I don't know about the impressive as far as work goes, cause I'm just now starting to work on it. But either way, I love to see more civics on this site. I'm about to go work on mine now matter of fact. Gotta get that head unit extension thing figured out! C-ya!

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Thanks! I don't know about the impressive as far as work goes, cause I'm just now starting to work on it. But either way, I love to see more civics on this site. I'm about to go work on mine now matter of fact. Gotta get that head unit extension thing figured out! C-ya!
Ok, maybe more complex. Some of the things you're doing I know is definitely not in my comfort zone...so definitely more props to you.

As for more civics on this site, with yours, bikinpunk, amitaF, less (to name a few of the more notable builds), people probably think there are already too many .

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Just wanted to share my experience from the NorCal meet yesterday. Was sandwiched between Se7en CTS, and Bing's latest Hyundai masterpiece...so glad this wasn't a competition, but nonetheless felt a bit intimidated given the two cars surrounding me .

Anyway, met a bunch of really cool guys, and had a fair bit more people listen to my car than was able to listen to others unfortunately since I wasn't able to stay past 1pm. But overall, glad I went and appreciate the many compliments from folks. May just enter a comp thanks to some very kind words from jtaudioacc, BigRed, and Bing (whose words below humble me given the cars he's worked on).

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Papasin...your car was the biggest surprise for me out oft he entire meet, it really is exactly the way i would like a car to sound ona daily basis, so smooth, warm, silky...wow...
This by no means is intended to be a one-sized fits all recipe, but for my car and equipment, after the MS-8 auto tune, here's what I have the EQ set at:

40Hz -3.5dB
160Hz -2db
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Want to send my kudos to Bing for organizing the event. Will try to be there for the whole time if there's a next one!

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Papasin, you car is very smooth and your imaging is spot on. I would have no problem feeling good entering a competition with it. I hope the sub eq I did sounds like an improvement to you after listening to it for a while. Great meeting you at the meet.


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Papasin, you car is very smooth and your imaging is spot on. I would have no problem feeling good entering a competition with it. I hope the sub eq I did sounds like an improvement to you after listening to it for a while. Great meeting you at the meet.
Jim, the pleasure was mine and thanks again for taking the time to listen, and of course spending the time with JT to drive up. As I mentioned to JT, I lived in LA for 5 years when I went to school down there (over 15 years ago now - Go Bruins) and have frequented that drive many times...not necessarily the nicest drive if you went up I-5.

I do not have a trained ear, so I would trust yours well beyond mine. Speaking of that sub eq cut, I wonder if it has something to do with when I ran the MS-8 sweeps. I can't recall for sure, but I may have had a loaded trunk when I did so and don't know if the auto tune boosted the sub eq. My car first and foremost is a daily driver and almost always commute with wife and 2 kids, typically having 2 car seats (you only saw it with one so that folks like you could move back and recline the driver's seat). Anyway, my typical trunk looks like this, with the first pic...including child's school backpack, lunch coolers, diaper bag, work computer bag(s), etc.



Second pic after loading all the bags...with a Peg Perego P3 stroller (for the stroller buffs out there, probably have at least heard of this - we love it and has lasted through both kids).



I don't know if a loaded trunk would have made an effect, but in any case, will need to do a bit more listening to see how my novice ears feel with your adjustment. Great meeting you as well, and hope to see you again...coming up in August?

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don't lie, you just like the cars, the cars that go boom!!

Great sounding car, you know what we thought.


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Jim, the pleasure was mine and thanks again for taking the time to listen, and of course spending the time with JT to drive up. As I mentioned to JT, I lived in LA for 5 years when I went to school down there (over 15 years ago now - Go Bruins) and have frequented that drive many times...not necessarily the nicest drive if you went up I-5.

I do not have a trained ear, so I would trust yours well beyond mine. Speaking of that sub eq cut, I wonder if it has something to do with when I ran the MS-8 sweeps. I can't recall for sure, but I may have had a loaded trunk when I did so and don't know if the auto tune boosted the sub eq. My car first and foremost is a daily driver and almost always commute with wife and 2 kids, typically having 2 car seats (you only saw it with one so that folks like you could move back and recline the driver's seat). Anyway, my typical trunk looks like this, with the first pic...including child's school backpack, lunch coolers, diaper bag, work computer bag(s), etc.



Second pic after loading all the bags...with a Peg Perego P3 stroller (for the stroller buffs out there, probably have at least heard of this - we love it and has lasted through both kids).



I don't know if a loaded trunk would have made an effect, but in any case, will need to do a bit more listening to see how my novice ears feel with your adjustment. Great meeting you as well, and hope to see you again...coming up in August?

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don't lie, you just like the cars, the cars that go boom!!
Honestly, as far as cars that go boom, I actually don't. I get lots of flack from forum guys on 8thcivic that I run one dinky 10 sealed (someone commented that it probably just "tickles"). So I'm actually surprised by the observation, but neutral with it. Personally, I'm much more concerned with the front stage (midbass on up)...which I'm glad you guys liked .

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Yes, and am truly grateful and am genuinely humbled; and currently at a loss for words. With you, Jim, and Bing saying what you have, I really don't know what to say ...maybe can you guys think of something I should improve?

EDIT: Was great to meet you too JT. Speaking of theme parks, have you gone to Cedar Point? If you haven't, go there, not Great America...I've been there more recently and it's no comparison . I definitely agree with Bing though, you really need to expand your food choices, and Panda Express does not count .

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EDIT: Was great to meet you too JT. Speaking of theme parks, have you gone to Cedar Point? If you haven't, go there, not Great America...I've been there more recently and it's no comparison . I definitely agree with Bing though, you really need to expand your food choices, and Panda Express does not count .
Cedar Point, oh how I miss it. I went 3 years in a row in the 90's. If I can find someone to go, I'm there. So many new rides I haven't been on.

As far as food, Bing suckered me. He said Fried Chicken...then added as we were about to get in the car, the Korean part. My Super Bird from Denny's on the way back today was gooooood!

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As far as food, Bing suckered me. He said Fried Chicken...then added as we were about to get in the car, the Korean part. My Super Bird from Denny's on the way back today was gooooood!
He and I talked a little before you guys got there, come on, McDonalds? As for Korean food, you really should try Gal-bi. I'm far from being adventurous, but living in CA, you have so many options and it's a crime not to exercise it!

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My favorite comment was when jt was following us to dinner and my wife was driving looked in the rear view mirror and said "that mofo drive slooowwww!" Hhahha well not the mofo part lol

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that wasn't driving slow, that was looking around for something else to eat! but everything around there had that circle writing on the signs.

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Papasin, you car is very smooth and your imaging is spot on. I would have no problem feeling good entering a competition with it. I hope the sub eq I did sounds like an improvement to you after listening to it for a while. Great meeting you at the meet.
Jim, I had a chance to listen to it with the sub EQ change for a little over a week now. Let's just say I don't hate it.

In all seriousness, the balance is even better with that change and thanks again for listening to the car and giving me the tip. Hope to see you again in August and perhaps I can get a listen to that famed truck of yours .

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