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Default Frozen White Fiesta

Hi guys!
It is now time for me to start my new project. It's not going to be so extrem as my first, but I will try share as much as possible
(and shoot with my camera, not with phone)

First the car
http://www.shrani.si/f/2S/13t/1deomyxv/img2663.jpg

Some interiour
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nice plase for ms8 controler
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So what do you think on this two positions?



Trying to direct my Scandinavia mids app 20-30° off-axis, and a little bit higher that are in this moment.
Have to make mdf rings first, to make location more fixed, but for a quick test it is ok.

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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

I assume you are using a tweeter, so what is the crossover point? If it's under 6KHz then axis shouldn't be a big deal; reflections and interference will be more of a concern.

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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

Sure I will use the tw, yust don't know yet which one. maybe HAT L1. or some from DLS, yust not Sc1.
I don't know yet where the crossover point will be.
I always set the system after the instal is done...
But i asume, that the lowpass for the mids will be somewhere around 6.3khz/24db
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HMMM, how's that sound?

He said the bass was hitting so violently that he thought the airbag would deploy!!
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don't know yet
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Have you used an ms-8 before? looking into buying one want to get as many opinions as possible
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first baby steps...







As for the ms8, NO.
I asked around a lot, and not even one has gave me negative opinion. So, we will see what it can do for me.
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Wow. Impressive work on those rings.

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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

Those rings look great, but any reason you did a round over on both sides and didnt rabbet the top outer edge? just trying to get a feel for what your doing?

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Nice!

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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

at first i was like how did he do those rings, but i see you must of just round over bit both sides, i like that. not necessery in most cases, im curiouse to what your planing on doing that you felt the need to do that hmm. i do like that you put your suqare peg into a round hole though, those suqare drivers can look so tacky :\
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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

thanks guys for all coments!

they are rounded from both sides because it looks great that way!
and a little diferent from the others.
but it is usefull also, because the fabric lays down more smoothlly, you will see what I mean from pics to follow. and when I will put them on the A-pillar, they will stick to it more firmerlly.

anyway I didn't have the time to make these, so my good friend did them for me! but we do it in the same way

by the way, what do you think if I modify OEM head unit to get analog output (which it doesn't have now) and avoid Hi-Low adapter...I think it would be a lot better for MS8 to get signal on that way.
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Have also read results that rounding the backside of the mounting rings or baffle helps response curves.

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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

hello guys!

i did those rings. I rounded back outer side of the rings because fabrics lay more smoothly...in the end you don't end up with sharp edge -less filler, less sanding, fabrics have more contact with MDF, so this mean better bond between them. back side of the cutout was rabeted 45 deg. because driver works better this way...as Bow Down sayed.
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Have also read results that rounding the backside of the mounting rings or baffle helps response curves.
inside yes, where the cut out is (3rd picture)

on the outside, has no influence on the sound, yust looks better and as i wrote before...

hopefully this weekend some progress!
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Today I started the pillars.

first there was some more testing



then I fixed the rings with hot glue, drill some holes that filler and later some fiberglass will stick to the plastik more stroglly, add some magic and this is it for today.



sorry for the bed pics, someone (my dear mother) has took my camera for the weekend.
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sorry for the late update.

been waiting for the new trio who will be playing on the stage


some more pics if anyone interested
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and some progres on the instal.

original doors



3 layers of stp and some Silent Coat foam



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and test fit (first layer of filler! now it's time to reinforce with FG and then some finish)


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That's pretty cool that the inner panel come right off..

Say, what sort of filler did you use to couple the the two rings? Did you use clothe underneath? thx

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no I didn't use clothe, but I yust used some cardboard. cut the shape, use some hotglue, some yelow (blue) tape, that you can remove it after, and then you add filler also from the back side, to get good bond between sides. I use filler with fiber glass in it, and now I will also reinforce it with poliester and fiber glass
then some normal filler and some sanding
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some small progres



mid+tw together for the first time



I think there is going to be enough space for free air behind the mid (dont' worry about the thicknes of the panel, it will be reinforced)



test in the car



view through the small window (notice the gap betwen the pillar and dash wich has to be filled)
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and I will see how it works with or without this factory foam behind the pillar




that's it for now.
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Default Re: Frozen White Fiesta

oh man you should of gone with L4's with all that air you have up their you could run them

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don't even say it...I am also thinking that way.
BUT, I didn't want to be the pillar as massive as my friends, who has L4 (this is old pic with gti drivers)

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