Rexroadj's 81 Jeep Renegade restoration and audio build!

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Originally Posted by rexroadj

I will take pics as real progress takes place...... There wasnt much to show other then the size of the amp (love it!) and the pods?
Also going to be adding either the kenwood 996bt or alpine 138bt Sick of waiting for the damn ingenix units

I will be excited to see what I can do with the JBL GTI comps Until I got the pods in and running I had my doubts about running something like the 508gti's.....Now I think it will be just what the DR. ordered! I think the P1022 will be more then enough for me and only take up about 1.5 cuft total!!! and the p600.2 should run it like a charm!
I will keep yall posted!

Speaking of which......You ever going to get that build of yours going?

You read my mind on the Ingenix.
It's becoming a mythical unicorn.
Everyone's heard about it, but no one has seen one.

As for my project, yes I am now in position to start.
The last of my amps are done from reconditioning and I'm just waiting for them to arrive.
I just received 40lbs of alphadamp this week to begin sound deadening.
My tax returns were actually a refund for a change so I have some mad money.
Lastly, it stopped snowing last Friday and is now acting like Spring around here which was my biggest obstacle.

So yes, I can finally get rolling starting next weekend.

Bret
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[rexroadj]

WOW! Kinda funny about the snow...... Who would have thunk it....Me in NH you in Cali.... We have had the warmest winter in history! It was warmer in Jan then in Sept? We had 90deg days!!!!!!!!!!! (I know, altitude....but still!!!)
I sadly had a large tax bill despite paying quarterly Oh well, its the price you pay of owning a business sometimes......
I will be excited to see your progress! Should be a very fulfilling system!

[quality_sound]

Having done many, many ski boats with ported L7s I'm going to go with that as the best option. I remember one in particular. It was an off-shore race boat (who needs a system in that???) and we did a ZR600 powering a pair of 10L7s (first gen) in 1cf ported per sub and it absolutely hammered. People were coming in off the street (the bay is at least 100 yards from the main road) asking what was making all that noise. Out on the water on Folsom Lake you could hear it on shore from damn near the middle of the lake.

If you need something that'll overcome some road noise, I'd go that route. Bonus points for it actually sounding damned good in a ported enclosure.

[rexroadj]

Originally Posted by quality_sound

Having done many, many ski boats with ported L7s I'm going to go with that as the best option. I remember one in particular. It was an off-shore race boat (who needs a system in that???) and we did a ZR600 powering a pair of 10L7s (first gen) in 1cf ported per sub and it absolutely hammered. People were coming in off the street (the bay is at least 100 yards from the main road) asking what was making all that noise. Out on the water on Folsom Lake you could hear it on shore from damn near the middle of the lake.

If you need something that'll overcome some road noise, I'd go that route. Bonus points for it actually sounding damned good in a ported enclosure.

I was really thinking this route....... I agree that they sound pretty damn good in a proper ported box! I have heard some great sounding sub stages with L7s actually! I ended up pulling the trigger on the P1022......$109.97 shipped is hard to beat!

Thanks for your input! VERY valid info!

[rexroadj]

Ok, Who wants to help figure out what comp set to add......
Here are the choices.....(please dont add...unless you have them for sale really cheap!)

JBL MS-52C- I have heard these and they are probably the best under $300 set of components ever produced PERIOD! I obviously dont have the choice of coax mount but I am starting to look past that portion.... I can get them for about $185 or so

JBL C508GTI I can get these for about the same price as above, have used the 6.5" and as most know I LOVE THEM! I will probably need more then the 190w from the P600.2 for them but nothing will compete with them in the volume portion with power! Some of them also have the center caps that unscrew for coax mounts.... no way to know which ones do or dont till you try it. I have had both!

Kicker RS56.2- I also really like this set as well! Very live sound, great volume and the P600.2 is about perfect for them! They can be used as a coax setup and can be had for about $180.

Those are the main 3 that I am deciding between!
Anyone have any insight? I may just flip a coin? I think the MS-52c is leading the way?

[rexroadj]

I should also add the JBL P 5.25" comp set thats on sale from JBL for $80

[rexroadj]

Ok, JBL C508GTI MKII are ordered So is a P1000.1 Have to hunt down a second P1022 because I am going to run a pair sealed rather then one ported! Assuming the p600.2 is not enough for the two of them, I will look for a p900.4 when there back again.....If I could fit a second P600.2 I would just pick up another one and bridge each one Pics will be coming as I get things going.......

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Page #9 and still nothing built...Ha!
My (no) build thread is only to page #7.

Bret
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[rexroadj]

Not true....I have the pods in (and had the speakers readyy till i broke one.)
the p600.2, and a sub box that doesnt fit? Its going about as well as can be expected
not to mention I have a deck in and all the sound deadning done........not just pretty pics of it piled on a table

Less typing and more catching up Brett

[rexroadj]

Ok, Got the P1000.1 in (AWESOME!!!!!!!!!) Although before I get to excited I need to bolt the seat back to confirm its A-OK....I set the seat on and it seamed fine (although VERY close). I tested it out for a while in my to large ported box with the P1022 at 1ohm and it was awesome! I am really excited about this combo right now. I need to cut the box down so it will fit and to be honest I think taking a pinch out of the cuft will help, but I think we have a winner. I will cut it, test it, then make it pretty and hopefully cross it off my list!

I also put in (one so far) JBL C508gti's. I was able to get the center caps out and run them as coax's..... The passanger side already broke the pod it was in?????? It was so much pressure that it made the seam come apart a little. I am actually ok with this, as it now gives me the chance to take them out and bulk em' up a bit before it happens when everything is done. Those JBL's are just flat out beasts!!! I am going to test tweeter positions with the drivers side before I finish up. I love having them as a coax for the sake of simplicity but I cant help but think they would do better with tweets up near the dash. As much as I hate to cut this dash I may if the results are that much better.
I will also be excited to see if the p600.2 is going to be enough for the set/volume?
I think it may which would be awesome because I cant seem to find the P900.4 and the P600.2 is in and it was cheap!!!

I have some work to do on the jeep asap aside from this (replace all weatherstripping and cowell gaskets etc...... Was leaking pretty good the other day and I dont want water pouring on my new GTI's (or anything of course Hopefully if time allows I can take apart the dash at the same time and clean everything really well (never done since it was built I'm sure). It will be great to to clean out the heating system as well....The defrost vents seem pretty clogged up. I will also look into moving the deck into the stock location and how I can make it extremely theft resistant (should be easy) and maybe plan to get my new deck (either kenwood kdc-x996 or Alpine 138....probably 996).
Well, I will only have until the 21st to work on this stuff........I am scheduled for shoulder surgery on that day and will be laid up for anywhere from 3-6months....I wont know which till I wake up after

[rexroadj]

So I am thinking about selling the Renegade and getting a truck and Scout? I am looking at a pickup (for winter/hunting/random) probably mid 80s (love em') GMC, Chevy, Dodge pickup or large SUV (ramcharger, jimmy, blazer) and then the Scout would be my fun vehicle? I may just get the scout if I find a perfect Scout II. I am going in for surgery in a week on my shoulder and likely will not even get to enjoy the Jeep this summer, along with our second child (find out gender on friday) in October.... I just wont have the time to cater to the Renegade

What do Y'all think?

[85C10]

One vote for K10 Blazer.

[rexroadj]

Originally Posted by 85C10

One vote for K10 Blazer.

Thanks! I've seen some really nice ones in the last couple hours!
I am going to list the Renegade today and see how it goes. If I cant get great $ for it then it will make my decision easier. I was planning on getting an older truck/suv regardless of keeping the jeep or not but the injury has slowed things down a TON financially My side work in a month would have bought me a great 2nd ride but its physical so I cant even think about doing it for a long time......As it is I already have a ton of work scheduled with deposits and contracts in hand that I have to figure out?

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Guess that's the end of this thread.

Bret
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[rexroadj]

Originally Posted by PPI-ART COLLECTOR

Guess that's the end of this thread.

Bret
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Not necessarily! If I cant get what I want for it then it stays and I continue to wait till I can get another fun 2nd vehicle. Either way its going to lead to another thread....maybe two of them To be honest, I miss a super high end system too and want something I can do it in..... I would love to get an old truck, do a blow through for some GTI' subs and deaden the shit out of it for a sick setup! I just miss it! The Renegade is a blast, there is nothing better then cruising around in it with everything off on a nice day.... There is still a lot of stuff I want to do with it but its just constant $$$$$$ and with the baby on its way, surgery/recovery, etc..... I know it will just be put on hold even longer. Its worth a LOT of $$$ so I can get something fully restored already with the sale.......
I'm getting to old for this Sh$t

[rexroadj]

Well Bad/good news is that she's gone! Needed to go as things have DRASTICALLY changed for me financially and well......everything else
Need something big enough to work out of and still have car seats without worrying about taking the seats in and out and getting the reinspected over and over.......
Got a ridiculous deal on a 2001 Range Rover so thats the new bitch! She's looks/drives great. Did a ton of research on the rover forums to look over the typical BS (and there is a LOT of it!) and 90% of everything was good to go!
Have to replace the heater-A/C control unit but thats all right!
Headunit- Not sure....I was told there is zero space behind the stock nav screen (nav blows) so a DD may not be possible? Not sure yet...gotta take a looksee for myself one of these days. If I can fit one? I will likely go Kenwood 9990. If I cant do that then I will probably go with a p80 (whatever it is? Cant afford to spend the $ on the 99rs till I figure out whats going on with my life but that would be #1) or the kenwood x996. I really want the ability to play dvds (listen to concerts) but again....could be an issue. Or I may replace the stock 6disc changer with a dvd changer and just put a touch screen where the Nav was....I could add navi too? But will likely just use my phone...its big, accurate, and easy!

Components- It set up for a standard 3 way.....1" tweet 4" midrange and 6.5" midbass.....I dont love the layout being that the midrange and midbass are both above/below another in the doors and the tweet is in the sail panel? If I go 3way I will do pods on the dash corners......TONS of room for them!
Otherwise I will likely just go with a two way setup.... Tweets in pillars though.
Subs- I need to take apart the stock sub section and see what I have available there? I would prefer to keep that area designated to the sub or amps...the opposite side of the rear cargo area is indented but open so I could do a custom setup in that too. Goal is to keep everything hidden...to bad I wasnt keen on taking out the spare tire? That would solve everything....but NO I cant do it. Has to be a safety first vehicle. I will likely do a pair or single 8 ported or 1 10 sealed......to be decided.....

Amps- I really wanted to use the ppi PC amps or the SS refs again but I dont think space will allow? May just stick with the phantoms for now.....I have a p600.2 and p1000.1 so I can easily build off that no matter what.


If anyone wants to buy the JBL C508GTI comps.........let me know. They are all boxed up (setup as coaxials still!!!) and ready to roll.....if not I will keep them as rears in the Rover......Build log to come for the rover probably not till the house sells, find apartment, etc...........

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Originally Posted by rexroadj

Well Bad/good news is that she's gone! Needed to go as things have DRASTICALLY changed for me financially and well......everything else
Need something big enough to work out of and still have car seats without worrying about taking the seats in and out and getting the reinspected over and over.......
Got a ridiculous deal on a 2001 Range Rover so thats the new bitch! She's looks/drives great. Did a ton of research on the rover forums to look over the typical BS (and there is a LOT of it!) and 90% of everything was good to go!
Have to replace the heater-A/C control unit but thats all right!
Headunit- Not sure....I was told there is zero space behind the stock nav screen (nav blows) so a DD may not be possible? Not sure yet...gotta take a looksee for myself one of these days. If I can fit one? I will likely go Kenwood 9990. If I cant do that then I will probably go with a p80 (whatever it is? Cant afford to spend the $ on the 99rs till I figure out whats going on with my life but that would be #1) or the kenwood x996. I really want the ability to play dvds (listen to concerts) but again....could be an issue. Or I may replace the stock 6disc changer with a dvd changer and just put a touch screen where the Nav was....I could add navi too? But will likely just use my phone...its big, accurate, and easy!

Components- It set up for a standard 3 way.....1" tweet 4" midrange and 6.5" midbass.....I dont love the layout being that the midrange and midbass are both above/below another in the doors and the tweet is in the sail panel? If I go 3way I will do pods on the dash corners......TONS of room for them!
Otherwise I will likely just go with a two way setup.... Tweets in pillars though.
Subs- I need to take apart the stock sub section and see what I have available there? I would prefer to keep that area designated to the sub or amps...the opposite side of the rear cargo area is indented but open so I could do a custom setup in that too. Goal is to keep everything hidden...to bad I wasnt keen on taking out the spare tire? That would solve everything....but NO I cant do it. Has to be a safety first vehicle. I will likely do a pair or single 8 ported or 1 10 sealed......to be decided.....

Amps- I really wanted to use the ppi PC amps or the SS refs again but I dont think space will allow? May just stick with the phantoms for now.....I have a p600.2 and p1000.1 so I can easily build off that no matter what.


If anyone wants to buy the JBL C508GTI comps.........let me know. They are all boxed up (setup as coaxials still!!!) and ready to roll.....if not I will keep them as rears in the Rover......Build log to come for the rover probably not till the house sells, find apartment, etc...........

Good luck buddy.
I was hoping that you two would be able to work things out.
Yep, definitely start a new build thread and close this one out.

Bret
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[rexroadj]

Originally Posted by PPI-ART COLLECTOR

Good luck buddy.
I was hoping that you two would be able to work things out.
Yep, definitely start a new build thread and close this one out.

Bret
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Thanks Bret.....two different people......just took a long time to realize or come to grips.....Tough, sad, but inevitable I suppose.........life goes on?

When I can safely get things going I will........ Kinda nice to have a nice, smooth, moisture free, quiet ride though
Hope she does me well! System could be REALLY fun in her!
Stock? Loud.....but VERY lacking! 2001.....what are ya gonna do right?
Strip her and start from scratch

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Originally Posted by rexroadj

Thanks Bret.....two different people......just took a long time to realize or come to grips.....Tough, sad, but inevitable I suppose.........life goes on?

When I can safely get things going I will........ Kinda nice to have a nice, smooth, moisture free, quiet ride though
Hope she does me well! System could be REALLY fun in her!
Stock? Loud.....but VERY lacking! 2001.....what are ya gonna do right?
Strip her and start from scratch

You have a tall hill to climb with that one.
Call me if you need to talk.

Bret
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[rexroadj]

Originally Posted by PPI-ART COLLECTOR

You have a tall hill to climb with that one.
Call me if you need to talk.

Bret
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Indeed I do!
Thank you Bret!
You're good people!