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Wrap with vinyl using the same color as possible to Car interior and add 2 handle to lift up the heavy box.








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Test using driver in the back and finished.



That's it for Subwoofer and thank for reading .. it help me so much like flyon said .. give me big motivation in my build.

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That is solid and crafty work!! Excelent! sangat baik!!

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Gorgeous work! Will there be a grill to protect the subwoofer?

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This install continues to impress!!
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Gorgeous work! Will there be a grill to protect the subwoofer?
Yes .. will be. The Car is my family Car so often to bring goods from the supermarket for shopping etc. Thanks.

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This install continues to impress!!
Thanks .. Good luck with your new system too.

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Pimp my ride

Preparing new cable installation and cleaning the car.





Remove all unused cable from my previous installation




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Wash the plastic and door rubber seal.





Drying in the sun



Thatís it .. smell like a new Car again .

My Rear and Side Speaker next, i'll prepare the pictures.

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Build and Install -> Rear

My front door Speaker location will be use for side Speaker and parallel with back door rear speaker. I’m happy using rear channel from my previous installation. It works for me and of course depend on the song and how many out of phase information in the song .. if I play some live recording music it’s really amazing .. Just something different experiences compare to normal stereo channel. Using rear fill in the back door do have benefit for back passenger (my kids) also because they can hear the sound much better.

OK .. change the vinyl for the front door to match the kick panel vinyl color.






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Side by side with midbass in kick panel .. tweeter for side Speaker is not determine yet.





My Seas for side Speaker 6.5Ē compare to Scanspeak 18W midbass. Later .. I plan to change this Seas and Phass tweeter to JBL GTO 5Ē / 6Ē 2 way Coaxial, So the side and rear will using the same speaker.


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I can not find the same color vinyl with doortrim ..

Next is rear speakers in the back door.

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Rear Speaker using JBL GTO 2 way Coaxial.









Standard back door for rear Speaker .. left is the same.


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My Rear Fill Speaker will be like 7.1 channel setup ( Picture b ) with Side Speaker ( in Front door ) and Rear speaker ( in Back door ). Refer to standard multichannel, I put 1 set in the front side from listener and 1 set in the back side from listener for 7.1 channel instead of 5.1 setup .. Well, it’s not perfect 7.1 setup actually because no delay and additional decorrelation between side and rear.

The ITU-R BS.775-2 recommendations for (a) five channels (3/2) and (b) seven channels (3/4) :





“If more than two loudspeakers per side are to be used, it is suggested that they be distributed at equal intervals on the sides. They also state that the signals to the additional side/rear loudspeakers may need to be delayed or otherwise decorrelated. This is most likely to reduce the risk that listeners may localize the loudspeakers, to further enhance the sense of envelopment, and to eliminate the possibility of acoustical interference effects. In 7.1-channel surround processors, this should be a standard feature. The angular range includes the symmetrical front-back situation, something that has been shown to be less than ideal in 3/2 systems. However, the existence of an additional pair of side-located loudspeakers in 3/4 or higher-order surround configurations would likely alleviate this problem.” Dr. Toole.

I don’t know it works or not in a Car .. but I think that’s will be something different in sound. MS-8 will take care the delayed, bandwidth limited and decorrelated signal to add sense of large space .. I hope it works .

That’s it for my rear speaker and thank’s for reading my build.

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Very cool. Looks like you're taking full advantage of what the MS-8 can do. Wish I could hear this car.

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Clean install man, nice
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Me too! Loving the build. Keep up the good work!
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Very nice. Have you decided on a xo point for the Tang Bang ceramics?
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.. and so your Build is very nice too.

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.. I'll post the video like yours after all done.

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.. and Me too ! .. I enjoy this very much.

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.. and No i don't. But something like 3K will be good for starting point.

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Preparing for measurement process

DIY extension MS-8 headphone cable .. Itíll make me easy to do calibration and measurement using MS-8 after measurement process done.

So I can unplug it near my seat instead of go back to MS-8 and always find whereís the jack hole .

Length is about 1 meter.






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DIY Aux In for MS-8 from my ipad or ipod headphone stereo jack. My head unit is Clarion HX-D2 CD audio Only so i can buy another DVD player for my second slot and connect to this Aux In using RCA too.






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For fun I wanna make it .. DIY headphone for calibrating MS-8 using 2 Panasonic electret capsule with my broken headphone .. and see how good the non calibrated mic result later .. .. I believe the difference is at high frequency only and since MS-8 using binaural mic with spacial averaging measurement .. even difference at head moving when we do “looking at driver and passanger side” its only at high frequency masking and not for low frequency.



I’ll cut MS-8 original headphone cable make it to shorten to about 1.5 meter only ( with bigger mic cable extension because the original is very small cable ) so together with my extention cable it will be about 2.5 meter in length. I’m not worry because I still have the other MS-8 box from my wife Car so I can switch back whenever something wrong happened .. I’ll prepare the picture when done.

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I Make a note for MS-8 Headphone route to new jack before cut the cable



I cut one by one and checked with avo meter to make sure right and left is correct, and the ground is not short with right and left cable. It's not easy because the original cable is very small and must be carefull to make it.





After cut the cable and change with new jack 3.5 mm .. the red sign is the right side headphone.







Add a little foam inside the mic.



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Left is extension cable from MS-8 to Headphone.



New MS-8 Headphone


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Making the tweeter cover ( Left, Right and Center ) .. I use passive for midrange and tweeter so no time delay for tweeter .. In case Iíll need that to cover the tweeter so MS-8 will locate the midrange or midbass location only for time delay at measurement process.






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