Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro Tech
Ok to start this off let me just say that "Project 1996" is just as it sounds, build a truck and system as if it were 1996. Why 1996, because that was the year I turned 18 and was really in custom trucks and car audio and really broke. This truck and it's system for me are a time capsule, they take me back to exactly what I wanted to build when I was 18, but didn't have the money.
The truck is a 1979 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 with a 6" lift on 36" Super Swampers. The truck is keeping its classic lines and is mildly custom on the outside, custom wheels, lift, billet grill and shaved emblems you get the idea. Under the hood is very not stock, but is very appropriate for 1996. The engine is a TPI chevy crate motor hooked up to a 700R4 with an NP205 transfer case. Finally the interior, again it will appear stock with minor custom touches. The interior has many pieces out of a newer 91 suburban, I know have power windows, power locks, power mirrors and a full din and half dash opening. I will be keeping the bench seat and using stock door panels and dash pieces, I may do something custom with the seat but still undecided.
Ok since this is DIYMA lets talk about the system. I am going full old school on this one, no equipment newer than 1996. It should be noted that I grew up in Erie, PA and worked for a little while at PJ's Auto Sound in high school, therefore there will be some heavy PJ's influences to this system especially the equipment choices. Well here is the equipment list,
Head Unit - Alpine 5953 changer controller with 5957 changer
EQ - still undecided, maybe Audiocontrol EQL or EQTs
Crossover - Coustic XM-3e with remote bass knob
Amp - Soundstream MC245, 35x4 plus 100x1
Highs - MB Quart QM160.03 Coax using QM216 mids and QM19 tweeters
Subs - (2) Pro Tech CH124D 12" dual 4ohm, PJ's house brand
The install will be 90's correct, I might even use some tweed. It will be heavily influenced by many of the PJ's 90's installs, like Greg Cassis' Riviera and Typhoon, Bud Wentz Cougar etc.
I had the old radio hole welded up when the truck was in the body shop, I have a fresh slate here but unsure what I will do here yet.
Now this will be a long term build, very long term, because the truck is not even running yet. I still need to complete the wiring and fuel plumbing as well as some mechanical things like driveshafts etc. I am happy to have inputs on this, because other than equipment I have not made any final decisions yet.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
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Originally Posted by req
sweet dude! in the near future id love to come check it out after i get my shit back together so you can see what ive been up to =D
Your always welcome here, I plan on building my box for the Blazer next week. I am doing a transmission line for my Alumapro M16 out of 3/4" Baltic Birch, it will be very interesting.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
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Originally Posted by thehatedguy
700R4s...get used to changing it out...they suck.
I hope thats not true, I had it built just for my application by a company called 4th gear. It has a few beefed up parts in it, but the motor is probably only pushing 300hp I wanted something streetable.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
my syclone had a 700r4. was making well over 400 hp and 550 ftlb of torque. it did ok but it had a beefed up tranny. some billet parts and stuff. but the sy/ty trans were better than a standard 700r4. there was a reason the 454 ss did not come in an OD trans the first year or so. the 4l80 was a much better trans due to the fact that the shafts did not have to change direction when shifting gears.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
Cool truck, cool build!
Since you are using coax with limited processing, are you installing in the kicks? You are going to want to pay attention to path length, and since it's a giant older truck you should have the spare legroom.
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...if you have dual climate control, that would be more likely to cause a timing issue ... Sound travels faster through warmer air so lets make sure both zones are the same temperature. lol
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
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Originally Posted by 94VG30DE
Cool truck, cool build!
Since you are using coax with limited processing, are you installing in the kicks? You are going to want to pay attention to path length, and since it's a giant older truck you should have the spare legroom.
Yes I am running them in the kick panels. It's hard to tell but the picture of the cutout template is actually in the kicks. I may try to use the fresh air vents as part of the design to get a true IB setup.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
1996 was the hay day!!! Your project description brought back memories. I too was really into car audio, mini trucks, and had zilch for cash!!!
I'd love to have another early 90s S-10 with Old School MBQ drivers and PPI Arts. Where did you happen to find your MBQ speakers from? Did it take a long time searching?
BTW-Greg Cassis' Typhoon was INCREDIBLE!!! I remember seeing that truck at the Cleveland Autorama and being absolutely blown away by it.
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Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
I ran the L98 TPI on an ZZ3 in an S10 back in 94-95. Had soooo many tuning issues related to MAP. Ended up switching it over to MAF and loosing that sleek air cleaner.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
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Originally Posted by jonnyanalog
1996 was the hay day!!! Your project description brought back memories. I too was really into car audio, mini trucks, and had zilch for cash!!!
I'd love to have another early 90s S-10 with Old School MBQ drivers and PPI Arts. Where did you happen to find your MBQ speakers from? Did it take a long time searching?
BTW-Greg Cassis' Typhoon was INCREDIBLE!!! I remember seeing that truck at the Cleveland Autorama and being absolutely blown away by it.
You might find it interesting that my other vehicle is a static dropped S-10 Blazer with Art amps.
Yes I loved the Typhoon also, I actually looked into buying it last Christmas. Drew Williams bought it from Greg and kept it for a few years. Sadly it was returned to stock several years ago and sold, so sad.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
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I ran the L98 TPI on an ZZ3 in an S10 back in 94-95. Had soooo many tuning issues related to MAP. Ended up switching it over to MAF and loosing that sleek air cleaner.
I will be running MAP because it is cleaner to install. My setup is pretty close to stock, I've heard heavily modified MAP engines do not do too well.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
Ok so we have our first and second changes to the equipment list.
First change, the EQ has been chosen - PPI PAR-245 (thanks pickup)
Second change, the Soundstream is out and PPI is in - (2) PPI PC4100
The Soundstream MC245 is now up for sale.
That will give me 100x8, I think that will provide enough flexibility. Both amps are a bit rough so the main body will get powdercoated, I will try to match the original color as best as possible.
Re: Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro
Before anyone calls me out on it, yes I realize that the PC4100 was a 97' model. We can all just pretend that these are early editions that were available in 96'. Also considering doing a glass bottom on these instead of powder coating them, anybody have experience mounting these upside down, any problems.
Project 1996, Full old school build, Alpine, Soundstream, Coustic, MB Quart, Pro Tech
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