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Default Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

OK, so I've now turned my daily driver into a DIYMA test bed.

I'll link pictures directly to this post later via edit. For now, I've got pictures annotated and such at my pbase gallery, just click here:

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Reserving post for future updates....

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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

looks nice, how does it sound?
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sweet, can't wait to hear the scans and peerless.

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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

Nice gear. Any reason you went with the c701 when the 9861 can nativly support the h701? I know the c701 is a lot easier to use but $150 difference... heh
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looks nice, how does it sound?
Very, very good. I'll say that this setup as as good as I've been able to achieve in a car; not perfect, but very good. I need to put some deadening in this vehicle. Currently, it has none.

The mock up enclosures sitting on the floor work surprisingly good in my car. The only problem is that (obviously) it shows that some serious work needs to be done to integrate this set of drivers into kicks if I end up keeping with this config. Tuning the combo has also been really nice. I have been successful utilizing shallow slopes because the roll off of the drivers (esp. the mid) is well controlled. This makes the integration really, really nice. On the other hand, the Scan's midrange is not laid back. It definitely grabs you, and gives you all the details, and some. I haven't done any EQ yet, but I believe a tiny bit of cutting might make these just right.... But I'm nit picking here; I had a friend audition the setup and he was super impressed. He couldn't believe how good it was.

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sweet, can't wait to hear the scans and peerless.
Sat. 9:30am. I'll send PMs to confirm soon. Bring the speakers (my new ones ), and whatever else you have lying around so we can audition! I want to hear your kickbasses and Cal Titans. (do you still have you Cal 27s or other Rainbow tweets?)

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Nice gear. Any reason you went with the c701 when the 9861 can nativly support the h701? I know the c701 is a lot easier to use but $150 difference... heh
It's all for tuning ease. The single button clicks, preset buttons, and large LCD make a huge difference. In fact, I think I prefer the dedicated controller even more than using a touch screen (W200, etc..) for tuning purposes.

Besides, I got both the H701 and C701 as a package deal, so even though it was "more", I still saved by buying used from a forum (ECA) member.

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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

no i sold the cal27s. can't have a pair that expensive laying around. i have no real excess equipment until the revs come.

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those look like streetwires rca ends - but what kind of Wire are you using for the RCA's? Looks nice!

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those look like streetwires rca ends - but what kind of Wire are you using for the RCA's? Looks nice!
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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

whats holding the amp inside the spare tire (from a fellow accord owner)? youve just given me an idea...perfect place to dump my old beat up epicenter

OT: i wish my trunk didnt leak on both sides cause thats where my amps would be mounted
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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

shinjohn, how do the drivers sound totally offaxis (pointed at each other in the kickpanel)?
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and why not the HDS tweeter?
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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

I'll have to catch up with you to hear the Hiquphons. I am still debating between them and the Cal27s to go with my Scanspeaks.
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those look like streetwires rca ends - but what kind of Wire are you using for the RCA's? Looks nice!
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whats holding the amp inside the spare tire (from a fellow accord owner)? youve just given me an idea...perfect place to dump my old beat up epicenter

OT: i wish my trunk didnt leak on both sides cause thats where my amps would be mounted
The amp is mounted to the platform, but the platform is not anchored to the tire at all. It's basically a snug, glove tight fit with carpet all around so it's padded and doesn't move. The carpet pad from the trunk cover keeps it from popping up.

Doh!!! on the leaking problem! Did you check your trunk seal? It shouldn't leak!

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shinjohn, how do the drivers sound totally offaxis (pointed at each other in the kickpanel)?
I'm playing around still. I like them best pointing outward as shown in the pictures. Dude, the 12Ms sound WAY better in my mock up enclosures compared to wrapped in a towel before. I was really surprised.

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and why not the HDS tweeter?
That's coming soon. I dropped the HDS in for a two way, but haven't tested them in the 3-way with the Scans yet. I'll probably do that after another day of listening with the current setup.

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I'll have to catch up with you to hear the Hiquphons. I am still debating between them and the Cal27s to go with my Scanspeaks.
I'm having a meet this Sat at my place. PM me if you wanna come by. I may be losing my head, did we meet at Steve's house for one of the mini-meets? In any case, I'm cool with people coming to hang Sat. I just want to know exactly who's coming. Come to think of it, I'll post a thread in General about the meet.

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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

if you look in the trunk on the upper sides, youll see a seam that goes crossways to the car...theyre both right above the cubbies on the sides...the water comes under the paint and leaks in the seam. dam dealer said they wouldnt fix it for me "cause they werent doing body work that day"

so the amp is just a snug fit...interesting...im going to see what all fits in there tomorrow. the jumper cables are surely a tight fit around the tire too
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Man I cant wait untill Sat to compare notes!

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Man I cant wait untill Sat to compare notes!
I'll second that! I gotta hear what a properly tuned system sounds like!
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Default Re: Shin John's 1999 honda Accord System Revamp/Upgrade

OK guys,
A tiny update this weekend:

I got sick of pulling the C701 from under the seat, so got it dash mounted:

I need to make a security cover for it now, to keep prying eyes away.... Note the modification of the C701 trim ring to make it fit in my Accord's dash opening. I'm planning to cut a single ABS trim ring later, and recess the two units to make it look cleaner, but this will suffice for now.

You can see here where I moved my PG LPL control:


And as embarrassing as it is to show you guys some of my (crude) in Car test methods, here's what I'm playing with these days:




The Scan 12Ms had to be pulled due to a problem with them and these went in. I must say, even without an enclosure, the sound of these W15s is incredibly good! I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually thinking of cutting holes in my kicks to recess these puppies and get them permanently mounted! We'll see what happens.....

I find the sound of the W15 to be a little less forward than the Scans, but nearly as revealing, which I really like! One thing is for certain: I know I will not be going back to a 2-way anytime soon!

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looks like a weekend well spent!
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The Scan 12Ms had to be pulled due to a problem with them and these went in.
What happened to the 12Ms?
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What happened to the 12Ms?
Nothing install/system or preference related. Great drivers, I really love the sound.

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uh oh, looks like you'll need an airbody saw soon . dude you can fit those 5.5's there? thats pretty big, i barely fit my lotus midranges.....

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so when did these drivers arrive?
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so when did these drivers arrive?
I couple weeks ago, I think.

I have to thank SteveLPfreak for these. I just happened to be online at the right time when he posted them. Thanks to Steve!

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Are those the same tweets that have been in there? And I don't remember seeing/reading so forgive me if I missed it, but what are you using for midbass duty? I know it's just my opinion, but I kind of like the dual deck look once you get a single trim ring cut.

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