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Default 2013 Scion FRS

I started a build log over on the ft86 website and will be transferring the posts over here.
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Started on my build this morning and thought I would make a build thread.

For everyone complaining about the stock system, you have obviously never owned a 2011 WRX. lol. Worst system ever!
The stock system, while not great, is far from terrible, as long you you dont ask it to make bass. Which is all most people seem to care about. The stage is high and pretty much straight ahead of driver. Better than a lot of crap ive heard. Obviously it falls apart at high volumes.

My goal is to make a complete system, while not adding a ton of weight that cannot be removed for autocross/track days. So the sub will have to be removeable. I had originally planned to make amps removable also, but might have changed my mind on this. Might try to go from 2 amps in the tunk to 1 under seat.

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I've "budgeted" 15lbs for sound deadening and have 50 sq. ft of FAtmat.

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My car came with the Bespoke, so I decided to yank it out and take a look. Found something interesting.

Three sets of RCAs where I was expecting one set.
Anyone know what these are? I'm sure one set is a sub out like the base radio, but dont know what the other 2 are. When I get an amp hooked up, I'll play around with them.

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Took the door card off and made a how to thread if anyone wants to see.
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With the door card Off I decided to see if the Focals will fit. took some measurements.
2.5" from the window rail to the metal of the door.

The stock speaker and baffle are another inch.

So right there we have enough for at least 3 1/4" depth.
Taking a look at the door card, if we trim out the plastic ring that goes around the speaker, we can get another inch. So at least 4" of depth with the right spacer. More that enough for most mids.

Next I made a templet out of cardboard to make a baffle at a later time. Just screw a piece of cardboard to the factory holes and trim.

I'm pretty sure you could cram an 8" mid in there with some trimming and the right baffle.

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Next I started deadening and sealing the door.
Put a layer of fatmat down on as much of the outer door skin that I could. Also as much of the inner skin as I could. Finally covered,and sealed the whole door. I will add a layer of closed cell foam to the door and a layer behind the mid when I get some more in.



Next moved on to the door pannel itself. There are a bunch of screws all over the panel that were all pretty loose. tightened them up and things seem a bit less rattly. I know the piece that covers the speaker an the window controls rattle with the stock system, so I gave them some fatmat.


Finally added some deadening to the whole door card. This is probably not enough, but I will see when I get the focals pumping.
The door panel is bad. Very tinny and rattly. I could probably use about twice what I have on there, but I need to budget it and I dont plan to run my mids too low.

Door now closes with a satisfying thunk, instead of a clank. I can hardly hear the window motor running. A big improvement over the other door that is not done yet.

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Just finished deadening the other door and wow! Major improvement with the stock speakers back in there. No rattles. I can turn the Bass up past halfway and it does not distort. Decent Midbass/bass for a 6 1/2" speaker now. I still wouldnt call them subwoofers tho. But definately more respectable.

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Well, I was at it again today with the sound deadening. I could use 3 times what I did on this car. But i'm sticking to my 15lb limit. If you've ever walked around an FRS and knocked on the body panels, you know they sound like a tin can. Really tinny. So I set out to make it a little better.

Now I'm trying to convince my wife that this is a normal thing to do to a car that is 1 week old. Not sure im doing a good job, if she asks anyone tell her it is.

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Started on the roof. Had to remove a few things, but its reaaly straitforword. Did not take the headliner out, just dropped the rear of it enough to get my arms in between.

Hers a shot of the finished roof ,

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I wonder if Subaru or Toyota will admit to this little bit of genius.

Although with some fiberglassing and a little trimming, You could fit a ten in each side. Would be cool for a show car.

Here is a pic of the finished inside of the rear quarter panel. I put some as far as I could reach. Used a lot, as the rear quarter is particularly tinny.


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Next pulled up the carpet and poked around on the floor. Not too bad down there. A couple of spots resonated, but did not use a whole lot.


Then moved to the trunk area. The trunk lid is aweful. Short of taking it apart I dont know how much good I can doo with it. I saved some fatmat for after the bass goes in and I can see what rattles. Used a good bit on the spare tire well, but could use a bunch more.


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I got everything back together and took a long ride. Its hard to describe how much better the car is. For less than $100 and 15lbs, the car has moved up a class. From the sealed and deadened doors, the stock speakers now have some balls. I can feel them shaking the hair on my legs and do not distort. No rattles either. I cannot hear the window motors anymore. The doors close with a solid thump. Adding the dampening to the rest of the car has cut down on road noise quite a bit. The car does not resonate when you hit a big bump. Feels a lot more solid. Very happy so far.

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That's about ittill next week. My HU sold. Have a few bites on the ID amps, but nothing solid yet. I would like to use them, but they are kind of big for the car.
Will probably be looking for a HD 900/5 or xd700/5 if the IDs sell.
Although I love the DIYMA12, I may have to get something more shallow and do a spare tire well sub install.
This car screams for a false floor trunk. Hell, it already has one. But it would all have to come out when I race, so not going to happen for me.

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For everyone complaining about the stock system, you have obviously never owned a 2011 WRX. lol. Worst system ever!
, I currently own a 2011 WRX and I agree. All Imprezas have been terrible for years.

I can't wait to see what else you have in store for this build, nice choice in equipment so far.

Have you ever used the fatmat before, and did you have any problems with it? I installed some a long time ago into a brand new Black Civic and it melted from being in the sun and oozed out from the bottom of the door panels. I hope it has since got better.

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No oozing yet. Lol. Lets hope it got better over time. Works pretty well for being so lightweight.

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Nice work. Pics of the car?

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Only have one PC of the car while its all in one piece. The one I took at the dealership.

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I just heard of these cars...sexy little beasts. but i kind of think their chick cars :\ cant loose the image of the TC just byt giving it a dif name and changing some curves lol

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I just heard of these cars...sexy little beasts. but i kind of think their chick cars :\ cant loose the image of the TC just byt giving it a dif name and changing some curves lol
You obviously do not follow cars. At all. Lol. This car has been a joint effort between Subaru and Toyota in the works for the last 3 years.
And this car has not one thing in common with the TC. Totally new, built from the found up as a drivers car.

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Coilovers and wheels will be going on next week, then some pics will be in order.

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Front,rear,sub rca's on that bespoke radio,just like all newer xb's ,go into menu and change sub freq, too.
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awesome!

doesnt the dash have tweeters and like, small midranges?

why arent you using that to your advantage?

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It hasa 3 1/2" and tweeter in the dash. I'm kind of scared of bouncing a mid off the windshield like that. Down the line I might try it, lord know so swap shit out enough, but till then ill use the md130s. They play pretty low. We'll see.

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i supposed i did assume on apparerences sorry ^_^ no I genraly don't follow cars at all really XD

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Coilovers and wheels will be going on next week, then some pics will be in order.
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