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Hey guys I finally am recovering from my stage 3 ankle sprain so I had the chance to start tinkering on the car again. Also if you havenít already noticed, I finally got a job after college and I got a new car!!!! No more silver bullet Corolla! Wooo!

My previous Corolla had a full Audison setup so I'm transitioning over to JL Audio for a fresh new change since I love the W7's so much. I kind of like JL more and more as more people ride theJanis Ian DIY speaker train and continue being too snobby to like JL. I used to go to audio meets all over the place so I'd like to go back to some .... with a new system.

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Front stage: JL Audio C5-653 3-Way Set
Rears: Disconnected my stock rears (none)
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Amp: Audison LRx 5.1k


The goal is to have a nice stock looking modest setup versus my previous super flashy Audison Thesis setup I had. The 6.5" woofers will be installed in the stock locations in the door. The tweeters will be installed in the A-Pillars around eye/ear level. I'll be upgrading the stock center channel to the 4" JL Audio Midrange so I will have a spare 4" Midrange left over as a backup. Subwoofer will be in an angled box in the trunk and I still havent figured out how I'm going to mount the amp or if I'm building a false floor with a smaller W7. Lots to think about here!

Anyways, to give a heads up, I DID try a JBL MS-8 off Crutchfield at first since it offered center channel support, but I felt I couldn't ever fine tune it to my liking. The auto-tune calibration was also way too sensitive, as it kept picking up my amp fan sounds and thus skewing some of the midbass/bass transition in addition to a host of other problems (the first one I received had a DOA output section). I've always preferred manually tuning and time aligning so I will NOT be using the MS-8 or any EQ until I get an Audison Bitone or maybe a Mosconi DSP6to8 (if i ever do get an EQ).

A few people were asking where they could route wire in the A/T 2013, it's in the driver side firewall. Notice how the stock sound deadening is actually pretty sweet for a Hyundai! I had to rip a few layers to even get to the sheet metal.

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Exterior underneath hood (near ECU)




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Panel off


Adding door speakers was not hard. The hardest part was taking those damn rivets off the door to get the stock brackets out. They can take forever because there are wrapped in plastic. I tried to rip the speaker out and use the stock bracket, but the JL Audio midbasses were a little too big too fit in the bracket. I had to use birch baffles instead. 7.5" Outer Diameter with a 5.75" inner diameter seemed to work perfect, with little to no interference from the stock door panel. I thought about routing new wire until I saw a full molex on both sides. Didnt' want to drill a new hole or route a new grommet. The stock wire will do just fine haha.....(it better ).

Depth to window without bracket on top side of hole


Depth to window without bracket on left side of hole (even shallower)


I was a bit concerned about how close the speaker would be to the door panel in addition to the midbass magnet hitting the window when it rolls down. The stock brackets are a little over 1.5" deep. To compensate for this I used two layers of weather stripping so that it would compress when i drilled the baffle in and be just under 1.5" and also air/water tight with plenty of room for excursion for the woofers without slapping the door panel.

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What gauge would your guess the stock speaker wiring is? I had considered the same thing with my '08 Uplander van just because of lack of time and it's been so stinking hot even after work. Mine looks to be no more than 18g, and likely closer to 22-24g so I didn't want to take a chance with 70-100wpc.

Plus the rubber accordian between the door and jamb is about 4" tall with plenty of space so I went ahead and ran 16g....

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Looking good.
What are your plans for the factory HU?
Do you think the W7 will be IB in this car as well? The Corolla IB install was excellent.

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Still can't believe u decided scrapping the ms8 after we did all that work. oh well

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What gauge would your guess the stock speaker wiring is? I had considered the same thing with my '08 Uplander van just because of lack of time and it's been so stinking hot even after work. Mine looks to be no more than 18g, and likely closer to 22-24g so I didn't want to take a chance with 70-100wpc.

Plus the rubber accordian between the door and jamb is about 4" tall with plenty of space so I went ahead and ran 16g....

Enjoy the car, they look fun to drive...
I think mine is about 18 or 16 gauge stock (definitely a lot thicker than my old corolla) but i replaced it with 14AWG where I could at the doors and at the stock amp so there was minimal usage of the stock wire other than where I couldn't reach. Wire isn't that sensitive to the gauge as long as its decent quality and you don't use any low impedance woofers.

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Looking good.
What are your plans for the factory HU?
Do you think the W7 will be IB in this car as well? The Corolla IB install was excellent.

Hey!!! Long time no see!!

I would like to keep the Factory HU if possible. I tried the MS-8 but it kinda sucked in my car. It looks like im probably going to go DSp6to8 or Bitone unless i can figure a way out to throw in a Pioneer DEX-P99RS somewhere. Has anyone seen a non dash mounted headunit that looked nice before?


As for the sub stage, I currently have my 13w7 in the trunk in sealed box but the box had to be built then placed into the trunk, then the sub placed into the trunk and installed within the trunk. My trunk lid is too small to just slide a sub box in It looks like IB is very unlikely for this car unless i can get some shallower subs. I'm also a bit worried about drilling into the floor of my car since theres so much more "car" in this car versus my corolla haha.

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Stock center channel




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16 gauge still too big for the audison high level input connector




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so much wires - tapping into stock amp because my current headunit signal is a SPDIF so I have to tap high level




Debadged the Infinity logos on the doors and glued on some JL ones



Threw on a JL logo on the center channel grille as well



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Looks good man, love the JL badges. Sucks to hear the ms-8 sounds like crap. The factory head unit has balanced line out, are you catching wires before the factory amp or afterwards? I debated running factory HU-- wound up deciding against it, not a huge fan of how it looks, but it works. I plan on painting the kit and shifter bezel black to make it looks better... We will see. Keep on powering on, can't wait to see more.
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We're you able to purchase that 4" by itself?

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I would like to keep the Factory HU if possible. I tried the MS-8 but it kinda sucked in my car. It looks like im probably going to go DSp6to8 or Bitone unless i can figure a way out to throw in a Pioneer DEX-P99RS somewhere. Has anyone seen a non dash mounted headunit that looked nice before?
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Looks good man, love the JL badges. Sucks to hear the ms-8 sounds like crap. The factory head unit has balanced line out, are you catching wires before the factory amp or afterwards? I debated running factory HU-- wound up deciding against it, not a huge fan of how it looks, but it works. I plan on painting the kit and shifter bezel black to make it looks better... We will see. Keep on powering on, can't wait to see more.
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Cuz my factory dash was silver and I figured it would be worth a shot to see what it looked like and even if I bought the black one I would have had to paint the shifter bezel anyways and then most likely the paint wouldn't have matched the metra kit and it would have had to have been painted anyways. So I figured I'd start silver, to say the least I am unhappy with the finish so I am gonna paint it all black.
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Nope I just bought the 3 way set so I've technically got a backup midrange and some passive crossovers. Almost got the zr set but tech support told me the mid basses were pretty much identical

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Looks good man, love the JL badges. Sucks to hear the ms-8 sounds like crap. The factory head unit has balanced line out, are you catching wires before the factory amp or afterwards? I debated running factory HU-- wound up deciding against it, not a huge fan of how it looks, but it works. I plan on painting the kit and shifter bezel black to make it looks better... We will see. Keep on powering on, can't wait to see more.
Yea my first ms8 had a bad output section so you can imagine how happy I was when I wired everything up to find my ms8 was bad. Thankfully crutchfield rushed out a new one to me ASAP while I still had the bad one (amazing service). Once I finally got it working I spent several days but could not like it as much as I tried .

As for the signal I'm tapping speaker level (after onboard amp) because I couldn't find a readily available 12v spdif to rca converter. I heard you can run spdif straight into a bit one though. I would change the stock hu in a heartbeat to the p99rs if I could though!

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As much as every one hates best buy around here. Go to your local Bby and we have a piece made specifically for us by peripheral, model #: isve61 it is the most amazing adapter ever, you can do high/low level in, high/low out, RCA or speaker wire, you can also use it to covert to and from common ground, regarless, you can use 2 of them and have separately adjustable channels... Not exactly what you are looking for, but it will definitely clean up the signal going to your processor.
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I suggest the Mosconi piece but the Bitone is right up there too. Flip a coin I bet either will be just as good.
My biggest problem with going mosconi is that the volume vontrol remote is red and my car is lighted blue. I heard the mosconi be can be controlled by an android device but can't seem to find info on it. Did you see anyone at the meets doing that?


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Have you been working on this lately?

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