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Default Re: Aaron'z RS/WRX install work log...

Hey here is a cheaper way...... PUT A REAL FUSE BETWEEN THEM lol thats better than a key.

It looks cool to me, but a few questions, How is that fuse box (directy left in the pic) getting power ? i can't tell if it is. How many amps does your alt. pull, hopefully it should not be much of a issue since you got a little car, However i'm more worried about all those newly found amps. (from that big azzzzzz battey) killing it.

Also how will the ampilfers be getting power ? via the 1/0 or the 4/0 ?

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How many amps does your alt. pull, hopefully it should not be much of a issue since you got a little car, However i'm more worried about all those newly found amps. (from that big azzzzzz battey) killing it.
The above statement makes NO sense.

The alternator is the source of current in an automobile charging system. It in no way pulls anything. It supplies DC to charge the battery, and to run all of the accessories in the car. (100 amps at idle and 160 at speed according to an earlier post)

How does the size of the car have anything to do with it? It's not about the size of the vehicle, it's about the number of draws that the electrical system has. The alternator needs to supply enough current for his amplifiers, Xbox, windshield wipers, headlights etc. The size of the car has no bearing on the needs of the electrical system. Especially in the case of a car stereo system. Do bigger cars usually have beefier electrical systems? yes. But in this case it's moot. his car is HIGHLY modified, in case you didn't notice.

How would the battery kill the alternator? Not possible. The battery is really just a storage tank for electricity. It takes what it can get from the alternator, if the stereo and other systems in the car demand more current than the alternator can supply, then the battery provides the extra current to the circuit. In this situation, it's the extreme current needs that kill the alternator, not the battery.

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Thanks Dave, it's all good though, no biggee.. Nice little teach session there though.. lol..

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Hey here is a cheaper way...... PUT A REAL FUSE BETWEEN THEM lol thats better than a key.

It looks cool to me, but a few questions, How is that fuse box (directy left in the pic) getting power ? i can't tell if it is. How many amps does your alt. pull, hopefully it should not be much of a issue since you got a little car, However i'm more worried about all those newly found amps. (from that big azzzzzz battey) killing it.

Also how will the ampilfers be getting power ? via the 1/0 or the 4/0 ?
I'm not sure where you are coming from, but, i'll do my best to cover your concerns, I mean that IS what this is about, right..

How exactly is putting a fuse between them cheaper? Are you considering the aspect of burning down the car? if so it's not likely.. in fact, prior to this, the starter wasn't fused AT ALL, now it is fused through the 300a ANL (so is the alt, but that is obvious) My little "buss" matches the trace of the 300a ANL fuse almost exactly, yeah i'm flubbing this part, but it should carry starting current for 3sec no problem..

The cars electrical system is being fed through the lower left of the whole block, you can see it's a straight shot into the car fuse panel..

I'm not sure i understand the middle section of your post at all, care to interpret?

I'm running 3 small amps off of all of this... If you step back a few pages(hell, maybe take a look at THIS page), it's all there..

Finally, the amps will be fed via 4awg to a Blue Sea fuse panel.. http://bluesea.com/category/5/21/productline/126 then 8awg from the panel to the amps.. (each leg on the fuse panel is good for 30a, 10a more than I need)

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Guys I gotta correct you here on your usage of 4/0, 8/0 1/0 etc.

You're using 4awg here, not 4/0 (four aught) which is bigger than 1/0

What we commonly refer to as 1/0 is zero gauge wire. 4/0 or four aught is 0000 awg wire. 2/0 two aught is 00 awg wire. 1/0 or one augt is zero awg. etc. 4awg is MUCH smaller than 4/0awg

Here's a scale from small to large
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also, not trying to be a douche...lol. realized it was a little bit of a douchey response. Love the car and the progress, can't wait to see it done.
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Guys I gotta correct you here on your usage of 4/0, 8/0 1/0 etc.

You're using 4awg here, not 4/0 (four aught) which is bigger than 1/0

What we commonly refer to as 1/0 is zero gauge wire. 4/0 or four aught is 0000 awg wire. 2/0 two aught is 00 awg wire. 1/0 or one augt is zero awg. etc. 4awg is MUCH smaller than 4/0awg

Here's a scale from small to large
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DOH, I knew something didn't feel right there...

No douchery noted.. just a correction... lol... Thanks man.. Thanks for the props on the car to.. !

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hmm, that's weird, why can't I edit a post I made a day ago?

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i hate when that happens!
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My bad that should have said Starter, i was in a rush and did not realize it.

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Thanks Dave, it's all good though, no biggee.. Nice little teach session there though.. lol..I'm not sure where you are coming from, but, i'll do my best to cover your concerns, I mean that IS what this is about, right..

How exactly is putting a fuse between them cheaper? Are you considering the aspect of burning down the car? if so it's not likely.. in fact, prior to this, the starter wasn't fused AT ALL, now it is fused through the 300a ANL (so is the alt, but that is obvious) My little "buss" matches the trace of the 300a ANL fuse almost exactly, yeah i'm flubbing this part, but it should carry starting current for 3sec no problem..

The cars electrical system is being fed through the lower left of the whole block, you can see it's a straight shot into the car fuse panel..

I'm not sure i understand the middle section of your post at all, care to interpret?

I'm running 3 small amps off of all of this... If you step back a few pages(hell, maybe take a look at THIS page), it's all there..

Finally, the amps will be fed via 4awg to a Blue Sea fuse panel.. ST Blade Fuse Blocks - Blue Sea Systems then 8awg from the panel to the amps.. (each leg on the fuse panel is good for 30a, 10a more than I need)
I meant the starter, let’s say (God forbid) you start blowing fuses, by putting a fuse where you currently have the key, it would aid in problem solving.

Because you have the battery , alt., starter in a closed loop. And the rest of you physical electrical system separate (Good idea BTW) if you have surge/ground out between your charging system and your car's power system (where the key is) that fuse (if changed to a fuse) would blow.

Remember just because a fuse blows does not mean something does not get damaged. Fuses @ (2-7$) a piece is super cheap insurance!

as far as the amp i thought you switched up ? might have been another log

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My bad that should have said Starter, i was in a rush and did not realize it.
OK that makes a LOT more sense! LOL! I was like...."wtf is this guy talking about?"
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lol i was on the run that morning

we learned that the hard way, big boat batterys and old starters on brettas dont MIX

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I meant the starter, let’s say (God forbid) you start blowing fuses, by putting a fuse where you currently have the key, it would aid in problem solving.

Because you have the battery , alt., starter in a closed loop. And the rest of you physical electrical system separate (Good idea BTW) if you have surge/ground out between your charging system and your car's power system (where the key is) that fuse (if changed to a fuse) would blow.

Remember just because a fuse blows does not mean something does not get damaged. Fuses @ (2-7$) a piece is super cheap insurance!

as far as the amp i thought you switched up ? might have been another log
LoL, one key word started all this mess..

I see what you are saying now...

Again, the bridge I made is roughly the same size as the trace in the ANL fuse... I know the metal composition isn't the same and all, but if it pulls THAT much current something is likely wrong... Only time will tell if there is a problem, as soon as I have my alarm done, I will start the car and test it all out... Fire extinguisher in hand.. lol..

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It's pretty easy to find a piece of copper or brass that would work at a hardware store too if you just want a little piece of mind that it's not a piece of scrap metal in there. The hardware store near me (real hardware store, not HD or lowes) has a little metal station with copper and brass in all different sizes and thinckensses.

Or use a fuse, that actually makes great sense. Either way, I don't think you're going to have a problem.
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Got my other fuse/distribution block yesterday... Blue Sea Systems..



This is a sweet set-up... 12 fused gangs.. 12 ground gangs.. 30A capacity per..



This will be fed via 4awg and grounded with 4awg... Everything will be connected to it including my amps... the LP100's even modded are still only fused at 20A..

Looks like the only place I can put it is, behind the xBox..

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If I read correctly, each circuit has a maximum of 30 amps, with the entire block having a maximum of 100 amps right? Just don't want to see you trying to run twelve 30 amp circuits off of it.
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where and price ?? That could replace some factory sytems !

I take it your taking power & ground from the battery in the trunk ?

if you need speaker wire, PE is having a sell on 14g wire it has outer sheathing too ! 31 + shipping
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If I read correctly, each circuit has a maximum of 30 amps, with the entire block having a maximum of 100 amps right? Just don't want to see you trying to run twelve 30 amp circuits off of it.
30 each and 125 max (hopefully nobody would load it up with 12 30A circuits..

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I take it your taking power & ground from the battery in the trunk ?

if you need speaker wire, PE is having a sell on 14g wire it has outer sheathing too ! 31 + shipping
Please allow me.. Let me google that for you

Yeah, both batts are in the trunk..

Thanks on the heads up on the speaker wire..!!

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wow you did not have to treat me like that lol and np for a 100ft to i had to jump on that.
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wow you did not have to treat me like that lol and np for a 100ft to i had to jump on that.
That was good thought, you have to admit that... lol..

LoL, think about it for a second, homie... In this day and age, if you see a name and you can't Google it, well, you deserve it... lol.. right?? lol...

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This is a little after-the-fact, but I would really like that photo studio. Is it specifically for shooting cars?

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The owner also owns a large fabrication business, they make sports training equipment and they also make pro-staging equipment.. They've made stages for some really big concerts and events over the years.. They've shoot a few pro athletes with the equipment and whatnot as well...

So, much of the studio is used for that, but they do have a whole host of things that get shot, i'm sure...

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Started the car yesterday.... ZERO issues... well, a vacuum leak, but nothing fried, melted, exploded or otherwise did anything.. lol..

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