You haven't seen my car. I cut the RS flares off (PO disaster) and have yet to weld the stock flares on. I'm waaaay further away. That's why I love this thread: progress.
I finally found my case for my Ipod that I got for my shop. This is a SUPER COOL piece that keeps out not only water but shop fallout, BONDO dust, fiberglass, resin, yadda yadda from getting all mucked up in the Ipod. Its really neat how this thing works, if anyone is looking for a case for a boat or even to usee when swimming like I once did this is the ticket. It does allow full function as if it weren't even in a case. ITS BADASS....
I discovered which grit looked best for a brushed look on my old scratched, gnarled, ratty looking ES system. Seems a damn shame to use those words to describe a Mobile ES system but I guess being the original owner sense 1991 or so I'm allowed some battle scars. The hardest part was painting the freaking logo's back on it.
I started with some OLD 150grit I had laying about to get some of the deep marks out. then on to 280 and ended up with 320 wet. It proved to be more tedious than I expected. You simply cannot have any angle at all to the paper or it will look off. I've seen people make jigs in order to keep the block straight but I just did it by hand.
So, later on this week I'll be back on the door panels. I've been contacted a couple of times by the shop that wants to take on the all red interior. "They are ready" lol..
Looking good! Can't wait to see the red interior...
I'm surpriced to see the logo's are not red .
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
Though its not an update of this thread (waiting on a 3/8" belt sander)
My shop fan was looking, well, like SHIT! So I decided to bling it out. This was the first time I mixed my own color and it came out exactly like I wanted. Now I'm not so scared to mix a factory color. All the bright finish started off brushed so I polished that. the blades were dull brushed, so I made them look like brass. The center emblem was just bla. So, I polished that painted it to mimic a distressed finish. I call it PIMP MY FAN. LOL...
two four channel arc audio minis,low current draw,and they may actually fit under the pass. seat in that car,i have worked on many of the old porsches,great car,you can do some 6" or 8" subs in the rear seat footwells,i have and works very well. this car is one of my favorite years and body style,solid car.nice find i am jealous.
Good work! This way you can keep your head cool while working on your system
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
two four channel arc audio minis,low current draw,and they may actually fit under the pass. seat in that car,i have worked on many of the old porsches,great car,you can do some 6" or 8" subs in the rear seat footwells,i have and works very well. this car is one of my favorite years and body style,solid car.nice find i am jealous.
Thanks for the reply...
Yeah I've seen many amps that would fit nearly any place in the car along with countless subs placed where you discribe. I'm the guy who doesn't walk behind others, maybe my path isn't the fastest or the best. But, one things for sure its different. If you didn't start at the beginning of the thread check out the COOL gear going in the car, stuff not offered today but gear sold near the time of when the car was made. That was the basis not only for the system but the car. I wanted one of my dream cars from highschool, check.. I wanted the head units which many have been measured, check. and so on. I just gotta put the pieces of the puzzle together. Unfortunally for me I am not able to work at the speed most people on this forum can these days. Sooner or later I will hear it and I'm sure it will live up to everything I ever hoped.
To all the nay sayers, here it is, you can fit 8s in the doors of a Porsche...
I started sanding down some of the rough stuff, before I took off too much I took it out to see where I may need to take off and where I shouldn't. Looks like I'm pretty close on the first try. I love it when a well thought out plan comes together.
You haven't seen my car. I cut the RS flares off (PO disaster) and have yet to weld the stock flares on. I'm waaaay further away. That's why I love this thread: progress.
Do you still have the flares? or where they totally nackered? I've been THINKING about doing flares on mine from time to time. And other times just doing flares like one would see on the Yellowbird.
Speaking of Yellowbird, I hope ya'll have seen this?
Scott... that is beautiful work. I would love to squeeze 8" drivers into my door and maybe forego a boot mounted sub. Luv it!
Ever thought of making molds to fit a LWB car with RS door panels?
d.
Thanks buddy....
I'm not so sure of putting an 8" sub because it would need to be sealed. I'm not saying you couldn't because with some metal cutting (just to widen the hole already in the door) you would need to fiberglass the part that sinks into the door. Those XMAX 8's have been put in doors b4 because Phoenix Gold did it. They had those in the doors and a Cyclone in the trunk. I cant recall what kinda car though.
As for the molds. No I hadn't thought of it because so very few of us REALLY like car audio so the market isn't that great. I am however in the process of making BETTER fiberglass hard tops for targa's and have some folks already wanting to buy them.
I could/would build you a set like mine if you want a pair though. Sense you said for an RS or LWB 911, I'm guessing you don't want a pocket? If not that makes it even easier! I could make you a set within 2 weeks pretty easy. All I would need to know is if the speaker hole in the door is in the same place. But if I can fit an OZ 8, I'm pretty sure I could put nearly any 8" midbass with no problem. You just tell me what 8 it is you want to fit and I'll make them! I could do it two piece so that the enclosure or baffle screw into the door card from the back. This way you could either paint them to match the outside if the car, carpet, or cover then with vinyl.
To all the nay sayers, here it is, you can fit 8s in the doors of a Porsche...
I started sanding down some of the rough stuff, before I took off too much I took it out to see where I may need to take off and where I shouldn't. Looks like I'm pretty close on the first try. I love it when a well thought out plan comes together.
BOOM.....
Great stuff! Can't wait to see you fit the drivers and test them... I hope your mirrors stay on, mine dance to the music with the HP set at 80 even with only 6.5" midbass. They go wild if I lower it to 63 . What's your desired HP filter on these?
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
Scott... that is beautiful work. I would love to squeeze 8" drivers into my door and maybe forego a boot mounted sub. Luv it!
Ever thought of making molds to fit a LWB car with RS door panels?
d.
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Originally Posted by FLYONWALL9
Thanks buddy....
I'm not so sure of putting an 8" sub because it would need to be sealed. I'm not saying you couldn't because with some metal cutting (just to widen the hole already in the door) you would need to fiberglass the part that sinks into the door. Those XMAX 8's have been put in doors b4 because Phoenix Gold did it. They had those in the doors and a Cyclone in the trunk. I cant recall what kinda car though.
As for the molds. No I hadn't thought of it because so very few of us REALLY like car audio so the market isn't that great. I am however in the process of making BETTER fiberglass hard tops for targa's and have some folks already wanting to buy them.
I could/would build you a set like mine if you want a pair though. Sense you said for an RS or LWB 911, I'm guessing you don't want a pocket? If not that makes it even easier! I could make you a set within 2 weeks pretty easy. All I would need to know is if the speaker hole in the door is in the same place. But if I can fit an OZ 8, I'm pretty sure I could put nearly any 8" midbass with no problem. You just tell me what 8 it is you want to fit and I'll make them! I could do it two piece so that the enclosure or baffle screw into the door card from the back. This way you could either paint them to match the outside if the car, carpet, or cover then with vinyl.
But yes without question I would build you a set!
cheers,
Scott
On a LWB car with RS door panels I'd use a thick spacer ring to fit an 8" mid bass to the door. Use the MDF or other material(*) speaker baffle found on pelican (the one I have in my doors) and make a speaker ring for the 8" and mount it with seperate holes to the MDF baffle. You just need room for the woofer to breathe and enough room for the magnet structure. Increasing the existing hole helps of coarse with breathing into the door. The plus is you don't have the electic window motor in there. But how much room does your manual window lever need?
Just make sure you deaden the doors quite well to make it go low.
Maybe some scan illuminators would work without the need for a sub. They are very deep but only 7". Should be possible with a big spacer ring?
From Bikinpunk's klippel test:
These things are animals but usable even for a 2 way setup. Scanspeak Illuminator18wu/4741t00 Klippel Test Data
A cheaper alternative could be the Vifa NE180W-4 or the Exodus Anarchy... both 6.5" with quite a bit of throw. Vifa NE180W-4 (maybe less suited for 2 way) Exodus Anarchy Klippel Data used in 2 way more often
If I were to do it again I'd go for Scan Revelators in the doors (if they do well in a big leaky enclosure) plus the Vifa XT25 tweeter and still a sub upfront.
(*)= looking into making these from aluminum for my doors. The MDF versions do suffer after repeated removal. HDPE could also be a good option.
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
To all the nay sayers, here it is, you can fit 8s in the doors of a Porsche...
BOOM.....
Great job!
I'm just curious how do you consider these, as Sealed? Vented? or IB?
LOL
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Derick Veliz, My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. Toyota Yaris Sedan Pioneer P-99, I6SW Subwoofer, - Legatia L6 bass, - HL-70 3" Mids, - Pioneer DS-425A Tweeters
I'm just curious how do you consider these, as Sealed? Vented? or IB?
LOL
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You can see some 4 layers that make up this part of the panel. I still have one other layer to add which is the door car. Most all that will be cut away. Then I may or may not add a cone type structure to the back of the panel above to make it a sealed enclosure. I'm not sure if you know this but in the factory door pocket a small plastic part goes between the arm rest pocket and map or side open pocket. I remade this out of 1/4"mdf and glassed this in. This divides the speaker pocket from the armrest pocket. If the OZ speakers need more air I could always drill out the divider and seal off the armrest giving a great deal of air space. So, I have a ton of flexibility in this config.
If you can fit it get a 4mm layer of MLV between the speaker pod/doorpanel and the metal on the door. Maybe even a thinner layer of ccf underneath to isolate it from the metal.
Like this... Not a light weight option though
I'd opt for sealed without using the door space itself, does that work with the OZ speakers?
1982 Porsche 911 SC, Pioneer P88-RSII active 2-way front + sub, Genesis Series III 4 Channel, 1&2 to Hertz ML 1600 woofers, 3&4 bridged to a JBL GTO 804 sub in the front trunk, Vifa XT25 sc-90 04 tweeters powered by a Genesis Series III Stereo 60.
If you can fit it get a 4mm layer of MLV between the speaker pod/doorpanel and the metal on the door. Maybe even a thinner layer of ccf underneath to isolate it from the metal.
Like this... Not a light weight option though
I'd opt for sealed without using the door space itself, does that work with the OZ speakers?
Yes sir, I'll be using 1/4"ccf behind the door card as is on the rest of the car. I've never gone to the extent of sound supression in any other car or install. I hope that my efforts are worth the end result.
The OZ 8s are free air like my Quart 8s. I purchased this config so that I could try each to see which gave me the sound I like. My money is on the Quarts for fast tight mid bass, where the OZ should give more low end. I think anyway.
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