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Default Subaru GTB Wagon Build - SQ on a shoestring

Have made a good start on this one, so time for another Build log! The Car is my girlfriend's '00 Subaru GTB wagon.

This Build was orignally destined for a '99 B4 Sedan, but thanks to a stupid lady driver ignoring a Give Way sign, we were left with this...

The up-side is insurance came to the party with more than we were expecting to get (how often does that happen!?), so we were able to upgrade slightly. WIN!

2 litres of twin turbo, tiptronic goodness! We have a dog that regularly comes with us and the old sedan's rear interior was starting to reflect it so a wagon was the obvious chioce.

The plan is for a full SQ stealth install (3-way active fronts, a little rear fill and sub stage) yet be able to show it off when needed, spend as little as possible, sound like a high end system, retain the spare, and use as little trunk space as possible...not much to ask right!?

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Tweeters: (for now) some old Fusion's I have lying around to go in the factory sail panels - these will definatley be upgraded in the near future, the Fusions will just get me up and running.

Mid range - Orion XTR 4" in the kicks. Again, these may yet change to some TB 3" in the A-pillars with the new tweets if I'm not happy with the 4's in the kicks.

Mid bass: Alpine Type-R 6.5"

Rear fill: Yet to be decided - powered off the H/U in factory rear door postions

Sub amp: Fusion FP-600D

Subwoofer: IDQ10V2

Wiring: Assorted interconnects, Power cable, Speaker cable etc.

Power distrobution/fuseblock: Custom made

Sound deadening: Lots of it hopefully! I've used a bit of DMX so far,but hope to place an order with Second Skin shortly.

Through a some good luck on auction sites and a bit of horse trading, I've managed to get everything (except rear speakers, sound deadening, alloy for the distro blocks, and upholstery materials) for under $650.

Any way onto the build...
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Starting in the boot (trunk)...

Here's the proposed layout


The amps:

As you can see, they've both seen better day cosmeticly and not suitable for display the correct way up, especially the 3566 which somone has really butchered...so I will be mounting them upside down with the covers removed to show the internals.
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I spent 4 hours down at work over the Xmas break cutting, welding, drilling, counter sinking and tapping some brackets to securely hang the amps in their upside down position.

I drilled and tapped the four corners of the 3566 to mount the brackets using 4mm cap head screws.


The FP-600D brackets mount using the original screw holes which I drilled out and installed 4mm rivnuts to take the 4mm countersunk cap screws.



Closeup of one of the bars that the amp brackets will hang off. These are recessed into the amp rack lid and are held in place by 6mm countersunk cap screws and 6mm hurricane nuts

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The opening it the centre is where the Power distrobution/fuse block will be.
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Man, your amp rack is giving me all sorts of ideas now... EXCELLENT work!

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Very, very nice work my friend..... I really like the brackets that you fabbed. Well done!
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Looking good so far! As a Subie owner I love checking in on other builds.
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beuaty, i didnt realise fusion was a reputable amp brand, i picked up a fusion amp awhile ago off fleabay for 50$ and when i blew it and tried to return it it ended up coming back to me guess the sellers ran off, but i ended up with a 80 lb paper weight that i sold at a yard sale for peanuts lol but that set was junk, that fusion amp looks solid. how old is it?
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if the rest of the Car comes along as nice as your Build on your amp racks. your going to have one good looking install. i was thinking about doing an amp rack like that for my car, but i was scared on how it would turn out. you have given me hope.
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sexy car. Those are called "legacy" here correct?

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Nice skills! looking great!
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Thanks fellas.

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It's pretty big down here, for the fact Fusion is a New Zealand company. That being said, most of their stuff is pretty entry level gear (borderline junk?). Their high end gear is good stuff though. The tweets I have are just cheapies...not sure how they're going to sound yet. The amp on the other hand is reasonably good. Think it's the '06 'Powerplant' model...the data sheets states it's CEA compliant, so I'm fairly sure it will make the suggested 550watts @ 1Ohm

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Correct, it's a Legacy here also. The sedans were labeled 'B4' and the wagons are GT's - the B stands for Bilstein suspension (as far as I am aware). They are sweet cars!
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Here's the sub box Build so far...
Originally I wanted to do a bandpass box for a nice smooth response, but didn't quite have enough room for the ports. If the wheel well was 4" to the right I would have been sweet So have gone for a ported box built to the ID specs of 1 c/ft tuned to 30Hz.
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After about 10 layers of mat...solid as fcuk!

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Coming along nicely! In for the updates.
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Well done - excellent creativity.
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It's pretty big down here, for the fact Fusion is a New Zealand company. That being said, most of their stuff is pretty entry level gear (borderline junk?). Their high end gear is good stuff though. The tweets I have are just cheapies...not sure how they're going to sound yet. The amp on the other hand is reasonably good. Think it's the '06 'Powerplant' model...the data sheets states it's CEA compliant, so I'm fairly sure it will make the suggested 550watts @ 1Ohm
thats interesting because fusion is JUNKKKKKKK over here, we're talking BOSS qulity crap here. just pure junk, in fact, i almost had to pay sombody to take a amp\sub combo pack i had laying around off my hands just for them to take it

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thats interesting because fusion is JUNKKKKKKK over here, we're talking BOSS qulity crap here. just pure junk, in fact, i almost had to pay sombody to take a amp\sub combo pack i had laying around off my hands just for them to take it
Fusion sells a few pieces of stuff here that are rebranded Chinese crap. Fusion also sells some of the best marine audio gear you can get here in the States. You can get some of their higher end stuff here too, but it's hard to find. Once in a while Sonicelectronix will have a closeout on some random Fusion stuff.

Their higher end stuff is nice though. Very old school feeling, pressed paper cones, big rubber surrounds, big meaty magnets... Good stuff really.

Nice wagon. Looking forward to your build.
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I have this thing about amps: If they're exposed and being "shown off", I think they should all be from the same manufacturer and series... but I like the "exposed circuitry" look as an alternative.

Be careful about heat, though. Are you doing something to ventilate that box?
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Sub box Build pics remind me of Chad's box. (A good thing.)
Looks pretty good so far.

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Sub box Build pics remind me of Chad's box. (A good thing.)
Looks pretty good so far.

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Have you got a link to it? I'd love to check it out.

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Be careful about heat, though. Are you doing something to ventilate that box?
Yea I would have loved to have some nice matching cased amps, but being on a budget, I could be too picky. I have less than $150NZD in both amps so I can't complain!
Don't worry about the cooling...I'm onto that! There will be no less than 8 fans (4 pushing/4 pulling), which should rememdy any overheating issues.
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I've been crazy busy with other things over the last 3 weeks so I havn't been able to get much done on this one, but did manage to spend some time on it yesterday. Any progress is good progress though I guess.
Got the first of the trim panels for the amp rack cut out


And here's some of the wiring bits that turned up last week 8)

This is the layout for the custom fused distrobution block. Starting with 25x25mm alloy rod, I'm going to mill it down to 20x25mm then drill and tap it for all the wiring and grub screws etc. One feed of 0guage in for both + and - with 3 feeds of 4 gauge out for all the amps and accessories.

Had a play with my new label printer. This is the fused distro for all the accessory feeds plus Power for the fans and lights. It will all be run through a relay switched by the ACC from the headunit
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Have you got a link to it? I'd love to check it out.


http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...-civic-si.html

Starts at around post 15.

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Here's the sub box Build so far...
Originally I wanted to do a bandpass box for a nice smooth response....

WHAT? I LOVE the build... Even more LOVE the Wagon.... Even more LOVE the fact its a Subaru.... but you're KILLING me with the even remote thought that anything bandpass is "nice", "smooth", or "responsive"... Seriously?

Bandpass... by its name & definition takes a sealed enclosure... shoots the output into another ported/quasi-tuned enclosure to focus on one narrow range of frequencies.

Bandpass enclosures are, by default, one-note, or one-region specific. Yes, I guess they can be "smooth" within the bandpass region, but... REALLY?

Your design would be AMAZINGLY musical & very loud sealed. You are going ported, ok... to each his own, but still... your "compromise" will EAT, digest, poop & walk all over any bandpass design, short of a crazy transmission-line type enclosure... WOW... just wow... there must be something about bandpass south of the equator that changes physics...

Love the build..

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Wow, I get the impression you don't like bandpass boxes!?
I'm definatley no expert on the subject, I was just going from the ID spec sheet
http://imagedynamicsusa.com/pdf/iD%2...%20D2%20V2.pdf
Unless I'm reading it wrong, a bandpass enclosure would give by far a wider frequencey range?
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