I've been reading a bit on JL Audio's history and noticed that a couple of guys went from other manufactures to JL Audio such as Jeff Scoon and Bruce Macmillan from Precision power. This makes me wonder about their subwoofer line up. Does anyone happen to know which suppliers JL audio used to build their subwoofers? Information such as supplier and which subwoofer/s they built would be nice to know. I've ran into a few posts where some people say that Credence built JL Audio's 18" W6 Dual 6 ohm and i've also seen Credence
site state that they built subwoofers for many companies such as Kicker and JL audio. If you know some information and you would like to share, feel free. or if you've run into some info, but don't know if it's a rumor or true fact, post it here and we can probably get some stuff cleerd up. Thanks
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
They built the d series round solo barics for Kicker. If you go look on their site they have a sub that looks identical with a blank dustcap. They are called the classic seires:
Looks to me like they have the square subs as well maybe they still build the speakers for kicker??
They built the d series round solo barics for Kicker. If you go look on their site they have a sub that looks identical with a blank dustcap. They are called the classic seires:
Looks to me like they have the square subs as well maybe they still build the speakers for kicker??
I've heard that aswell, but would like to keep this JL Audio only. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
as far as I understand JL tools their own... so saying that who JL makes for is as useful as knowing who makes for them. because if kicker made for them would you have more or less of a desire to buy the jl or the kicker?
as far as I understand JL tools their own... so saying that who JL makes for is as useful as knowing who makes for them. because if kicker made for them would you have more or less of a desire to buy the jl or the kicker?
I don't understand what you are trying to say...
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
I don't think he is talking as much about their current lineup as he is about their prior drivers.
I don't know who used to build the drivers for JL. But I do know Manville has previously stated that the original W6 drivers were built with standard off-the-shelf parts, which makes them easily copied.....which the brand SPL did several years ago, though they apparently/supposedly used slightly lower quality parts to build their clone. Sort of funny if you look at the subtitle for the product on Sonic's product page: SPL JWS-12 (jws12) 12" subwoofer "fake" JL Audio 12W6
Anyways, point is even if Credence wasn't the original OEM for JL (though they may have been, I have no idea) it wouldn't be hard for them to reproduce copies anyways.
I don't think he is talking as much about their current lineup as he is about their prior drivers.
I don't know who used to build the drivers for JL. But I do know Manville has previously stated that the original W6 drivers were built with standard off-the-shelf parts, which makes them easily copied.....which the brand SPL did several years ago, though they apparently/supposedly used slightly lower quality parts to build their clone. Sort of funny if you look at the subtitle for the product on Sonic's product page: SPL JWS-12 (jws12) 12" subwoofer "fake" JL Audio 12W6
Anyways, point is even if Credence wasn't the original OEM for JL (though they may have been, I have no idea) it wouldn't be hard for them to reproduce copies anyways.
Except Credence is actually using the JL logo on the dustcap. Either they're brave and infringing on their trademark or they dusted off some old stock and built some subs.
Except Credence is actually using the JL logo on the dustcap. Either they're brave and infringing on their trademark or they dusted off some old stock and built some subs.
The majority is old stock I would think. The basket has a 99' date on it and the mag has 18w6 stamped on it. As for the soft part's I have no idea. All I know is if the soft parts are old stock they held up very very well
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I don't think he is talking as much about their current lineup as he is about their prior drivers.
I don't know who used to build the drivers for JL. But I do know Manville has previously stated that the original W6 drivers were built with standard off-the-shelf parts, which makes them easily copied.....which the brand SPL did several years ago, though they apparently/supposedly used slightly lower quality parts to build their clone. Sort of funny if you look at the subtitle for the product on Sonic's product page: SPL JWS-12 (jws12) 12" subwoofer "fake" JL Audio 12W6
Anyways, point is even if Credence wasn't the original OEM for JL (though they may have been, I have no idea) it wouldn't be hard for them to reproduce copies anyways.
You are right, I am referring to their older woofers, I thought i had made it clear enough. Thanks for the input guys.
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
Except Credence is actually using the JL logo on the dustcap. Either they're brave and infringing on their trademark or they dusted off some old stock and built some subs.
They are not allowed to use our trademarks. We have given no permission to do so. That's all I will say about that in this public space.
You are right, I am referring to their older woofers, I thought i had made it clear enough. Thanks for the input guys.
Prior to 2005, we used several U.S. assemblers to build certain JL Audio woofers. Among these was Credence Loudspeakers. They have not built any products for us for many years now and no products they are currently offering are genuine JL Audio products. We take no responsibility for any of these products that are using our trademarks without permission.
Currently, we build the following speakers in our Florida factory:
W7AE
W6v2
W3v3
TW5
All marine speakers
ZR800-CW
The statement above should tell you all you need to know about the 18w6's they are selling. Credence has stuff left over from the times the were the build house for JL and decided to put together and sell them. I am very sure credence was the build house for a few of the old school subs people still like. I have one of the 18w6 and have had some of the solobarics from them and kicker, they are all the same minus the logos.
Prior to 2005, we used several U.S. assemblers to build certain JL Audio woofers. Among these was Credence Loudspeakers. They have not built any products for us for many years now and no products they are currently offering are genuine JL Audio products. We take no responsibility for any of these products that are using our trademarks without permission.
Currently, we build the following speakers in our Florida factory:
W7AE
W6v2
W3v3
TW5
All marine speakers
ZR800-CW
Awesome response, thank you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
Except Credence is actually using the JL logo on the dustcap. Either they're brave and infringing on their trademark or they dusted off some old stock and built some subs.
Guess I didn't realize those Credence 18W6's actually had logo's on them....seems like a bad idea to do that to me, and apparently Manville/JL agrees Even if they were the build house for those drivers, I can't imagine it's a great idea to sell the subs with that logo on them without some type of permission.....which they apparently don't have.
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Prior to 2005, we used several U.S. assemblers to build certain JL Audio woofers. Among these was Credence Loudspeakers. They have not built any products for us for many years now and no products they are currently offering are genuine JL Audio products. We take no responsibility for any of these products that are using our trademarks without permission.
Currently, we build the following speakers in our Florida factory:
W7AE
W6v2
W3v3
TW5
All marine speakers
ZR800-CW
BASICALLY ALL THE "GOOD JL STUFF" IS MADE IN THE USA!!!! IVE BEEN A LONG TIME FAN AND USER OF JL AUDIO WILL NEVER SWITCH!!!!!
All I know is jl audio needs to come out with an 18w7.
That'd be cool. Imagine the XMax on that thing. :O It'd probably do well in 3 CU FT.
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
It's not Tchaikovsky. But it's still music that people like and that people want to listen to. Therefore, the goal is to meet that demand. When you let your audio system dictate the music you listen to, you've lost.
I don't even want to guess at how much moving mass that monster would bring to the table.
Probably not too much. The W7's mms is pretty low, everything considered.
12W7= 188g. 12W6=181g. Not bad at all. Fi's 12" infinite baffle sub has a 217g mms. I know you didn't mean this literally, it just got me wondering what the W6/7 mms figures actually were so I had to look them up.
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Admittedly, I've never really looked at the specs, that closely, either, I would have thought they'd be a little higher. Still not bad for an "SQ sub".
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What supplier did JL Audio use to build...
or if you've run into some info, but don't know if it's a rumor or true fact, post it here and we can probably get some stuff cleerd up. 
Even if they were the build house for those drivers, I can't imagine it's a great idea to sell the subs with that logo on them without some type of permission.....which they apparently don't have.
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