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LOL I watched this EEV blog video on youtube a while back and totally forgot about it. Then I saw it again today and I just have to say.....damn he nailed it right on the head.

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#29 - Audiophile Audiophoolery - YouTube[/YOUTUBE]

You guys just have to take a look at it, trust me you'll never be the same. This applies to any AUDIO equipment.


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love it! I will say, there are diffrence in cables. but you have to go super cheap to hear it. the $3 walmart ones are niosey compared to $15 ones. but that is the limit to what I will put on cables. kimber Kable is prolly who he is refering to. $16k for a 1 meter pair of RCA for thier most expensive series..........stupid!

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Correct, I agree with the differences between cheap interconnects and good quality interconnects, but I'll never spend any more than 35bucks on RCA's (I usually stick with 5or 6m).

But same goes for any piece of audio equipment, as Dave mentioned in the vid above..... now even electrolytic caps mention their "AUDIO" Grade. Who here knows better than Dave?

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EEVblog is great stuff, even if Dave is a bit biased and set in his ways (but what engineer isn't?). If you're looking to buy a scope or a DMM, his test equipment shootouts are priceless.

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Yep, I've watch probably half of his vids on youtube (some are pretty long).

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There was an audio myths workshop video on YouTube by the guy with the bass trap company, I'll see if I can dig that one up. It's been posted quite a few times here, but one of the most informative videos ever made on the subject of audio.

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Must be this vid.

[YOUTUBE]Audio Myths Workshop - YouTube[/YOUTUBE]

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The last 12 seconds are words of wisdom.

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I subscribed to his YouTube channel a few months ago. Dave makes some great videos.

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Am glad am not the only one that watches his vids. His videos are very educational. I also watch other youtube vids from afrotechs, thecoolchem, speakerguy and some other members that mess with old school electronics.

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He had me crackin' up. I'll have to check out the rest of his videos. Thanks
P.S. Are these, "afrotechs, thecoolchem, speakerguy" the usernames of the channels? Will have to find out in a bit. If not, links would be nice. Thanks again.

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cooldudeclem, afrotechmods, cassettemaster, eevblog, hexibas, drjctu, neekstv, allamericanfiveradio - This are some of the channels I watch, I spell the names correctly so you can see/find their vids/channels.

All of them are related to electronics/audio. I missing a few channels that deal with speakers - which is about a young guy messing with vintage/old speakers. Anything he can find, sometimes he mentions about speakers he finds in trash piles or flea market. Good vids, very entertaining and educational.

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I think we all fell for some audiophool terminology at some point in this hobby. Some wise up whereas others continue to be suckered out of their money in a marketing scheme that is no better than your typical Nigerian email scam. I'm still waiting for the real ballers to show off their custom amplifiers with solid gold circuit board traces.

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That guy is so annoying. I watched 30 seconds of the vid and almost killed myself.
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Twisted pair and directional cables with a drain wire is snake oil? I agree with everything else, but not sure about bringing those two things in to the mix. They seem like they have valid benefits. Now, $500 for it, no. But $30 or $50, yea sure. I also will pay more for an RCA based on the heads and what they look like. I LOVE the old Stinger Expert RCAs, super heavy metal heads and sexy design.
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Twisted pair and directional cables with a drain wire is snake oil? I agree with everything else, but not sure about bringing those two things in to the mix. They seem like they have valid benefits. Now, $500 for it, no. But $30 or $50, yea sure. I also will pay more for an RCA based on the heads and what they look like. I LOVE the old Stinger Expert RCAs, super heavy metal heads and sexy design.
Directional cables ARE snake oil... I'm talking about the kind that have been "burned in", the kind that boasts nonsense like, "conductors are actually a sea of microscopic diodes". Where people think they sound better in one direction than the other.

There's nothing bad about having a shield connected to a drain wire on on end of the cable, though. I do that both in my car and all the miles of aircraft cabling use at my job.

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Directional cables ARE snake oil... I'm talking about the kind that have been "burned in", the kind that boasts nonsense like, "conductors are actually a sea of microscopic diodes". Where people think they sound better in one direction than the other.

There's nothing bad about having a shield connected to a drain wire on on end of the cable, though. I do that both in my car and all the miles of aircraft cabling use at my job.
Oh wow, never heard of that before. I'm not in to nor do I care about home audio, so I probably miss out on most of the cable snake oil.
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Oh wow, never heard of that before. I'm not in to nor do I care about home audio, so I probably miss out on most of the cable snake oil.
Yea.. Electrons don't really car which way they go down a wire. It's AC anyway, if their pitch held true, they'd end up clipping half their signal. How's that for audiophile quality?

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Directional cables ARE snake oil... I'm talking about the kind that have been "burned in", the kind that boasts nonsense like, "conductors are actually a sea of microscopic diodes". Where people think they sound better in one direction than the other.

There's nothing bad about having a shield connected to a drain wire on on end of the cable, though. I do that both in my car and all the miles of aircraft cabling use at my job.


Thank you for clarifying that. and as Neil noted it IS a standard for cables to be directional, just not in terms of electron flow

Kinda tough to screw that up with an XLR but for 1/4" and RCA, direction should be noted.
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Also twisted wires serve no purpose unless you have a balanced signal....I'd say about 85% of the members here have unbalanced so the twisted RCA's are useless. They do look pretty though but thats it.

Also had a conversation with my brother-in-law about power wire. He mentioned the welding wire they use is about 4g and has very tiny strands and lots of them when compared to my Stinger 400series 1/0 gauge wire. He also mentioned the jacket on my wire is twice as thick as welding wire, but mentioned welding wire has a though jacket and has met certain critiria in the industry. He was pretty much saying the wire I had was an "over-kill" on both rating and jacket size. I only got it cause it was a fraction of the retail.

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I just use welding cable, another reason is that welco-flex (Harris) has a jacket, and a teflon inner jacket it makes it SUPER flexible, like wet noodle flexible.
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about!! I only get the best SQ's from solid silver, 2" thick, single stranded, cryo-frozen RCA's that were blessed with holy water from Buddhist monk then dried in direct sunlight at the equator. The sold gold RCA tips with emerald dust inlay also help create an open and airy soundstage with out masking the crisp upper dynamics of the mid-level tonality.

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