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Default The most important aspect of an audio setup

"The make-or-break part is the front speakers. If you have a fixed budget, the front speakers are where you should not cut any corners."

"The most important aspect of any installation is the tuning, time alignment and equalization. Without good tuning, alignment etc, the best most expensive equipment can be made to sound horrible."

"The absolute key to a good installation is the installation. No matter how good the equipment is, a bad installation will make it worthless. Bad Speaker location, bad connections, bad grounds, poor quality wires, bad voltage regulation, all these will cause more harm than the good that comes from investing in high quality components."

"The single most effective thing you can do to improve your listening experience is to bypass the poor digital/analog converters that rob you of so much sound quality before the sound even reaches the speakers."

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These are not exact quotes but a decent representation of the variety of advices from seasoned professionals, audiophiles, experts, or people perceived as such because let's face it they do know a million times more than both Average Me and my friend Average Joe combined.

So of course one weak link in the strongest chain will cause it to fail, but we can't all become end-to-end audiophile electrical and electronic experts just so our cars don't sound crap. After a decent amount of reading I could conclude that there is no point in starting because I will need to learn the finer points of Speaker construction, advanced electrical and electronic theory and design, wave theory, fluid dynamics, mechanical properties of materials and more before I can even consider buying the strict minimum of fibreglass construction material, high quality speakers and crossovers, a few amps, a couple of processors, soundproofing material and some anti-depressants.

So if anyone with experience and global understanding could put this in perspective, it would be much appreciated.
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sounds about right. Get started.

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sounds about right. Get started.
Yes, because it's not completely obvious that I already have. Congratulations for such a useful contribution.
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Yes, because it's not completely obvious that I already have. Congratulations for such a useful contribution.
No need to a di€k, especially if you expect anyone worthwhile to help you.

You don't necessarily have to know or become any of the things you listed, but it's up to you how involved you want to get and how much you want to learn.

It would also be helpful if you stated your current experience/knowledge, your goals with your system, are you upgrading something like a factory system or an all out install/system.
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Default Re: The most important aspect of an audio setup

One might say it's futile to try & define the most important component or implementation strategy as they're all important and need a collective synergy to make the most of what you can do with X amount of money. Maybe the answer just snuck in there. Maybe it's money - some minimum amount of it...and of course the willingness to spend enough of it to enable all this.
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So of course one weak link in the strongest chain will cause it to fail, but we can't all become end-to-end audiophile electrical and electronic experts just so our cars don't sound crap.
That's the answer to your question. There is no single most important thing that contributes to sound quality. You need a balance of decent hardware (speakers and electronics), decent installation technique and Speaker locations, and decent tuning. The A/D/A conversions may have been important sometime in the past, but modern equipment is so good it doesn't matter so you can safely ignore that entire line of thought.

You don't have to become an expert in all aspects of everything. There are some really simple rules of thumb you can follow for each of those topics above. This is where this forum comes into play. When you want to tackle each part, just start searching and asking questions.

If I had to recommend something to put the most emphasis on first, it would be defining your goals. Do you want a one-seat audio experience, or do you want to entertain all of your passengers too? How flexible are you with Speaker placement, vs how much of a perfect factory appearance do you want? What is your budget for everything? Do you have a certain experience you are trying to recreate (such as a certain Car you have listened to), or are you just trying to get the best experience that (we) know how to build? And finally, how much of this are you willing to do yourself (and how much time do you have to invest), vs how much are you willing to pay someone else do?

If you really answer questions like that, then we can better guide you.

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inb4 people start throwing out percentages...


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Default Re: The most important aspect of an audio setup

Thank you to those of you who added meaningful contributions.

@ Jazzi

I won't expand on my own project here because it was never an intention of my post to link this to what I am trying to do. I posted these examples as a sample of the confusing information that together create the first barrier of myths or outdated advice that DIY newcomers could stumble upon. Your input is encouraging in more ways than one and I thank you for it.
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inb4 people start throwing out percentages...

1 st 90% is dedication to achieve listenable install, another 8% is install/soundproofing/resonances elimination, rest 1% is equipment.
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1 st 90% is dedication to achieve listenable install, another 8% is install/soundproofing/resonances elimination, rest 1% is equipment.
YOU FORGOT 60% TUNING!!!

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YOU FORGOT 60% TUNING!!!

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Default Re: The most important aspect of an audio setup

Dont forget that A/B amps sound better than D amps.

You say at 70mph you cant hear a difference? Does this mean at 35 you can?
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1 st 90% is dedication to achieve listenable install, another 8% is install/soundproofing/resonances elimination, rest 1% is equipment.
How many percent of trolling in this one? Because even if 0<Ta<Tmfr, where Ta is the Actual Trolling Factor and Tmfr is the Minimum Trolling Factor For Forum Regulars as empirically defined by Chan's law, you're still saying it's not worth buying anything better than Chinese-made coaxials.
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The most important part is simply getting your feet wet. I can't think of anyone on here with a system that hasn't evolved over time due to experience. You can form up a plan just as thorough as can be, but sooner or later you will find little things to improve on and the weak links within your setup will be done over whether it be gear or a simple retune. Just get in there and get your feet wet!

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How many percent of trolling in this one? Because even if 0<Ta<Tmfr, where Ta is the Actual Trolling Factor and Tmfr is the Minimum Trolling Factor For Forum Regulars as empirically defined by Chan's law, you're still saying it's not worth buying anything better than Chinese-made coaxials.
100%. It was sarcastic internal joke you don`t get yet.
BTW I still have chinese made JL coax drivers and they can be tuned just fine.
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Well, 2.5 quality answers out of 11, I really don't see why the old regulars are saying the forum's gone to shit.
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Well, 2.5 quality answers out of 11, I really don't see why the old regulars are saying the forum's gone to shit.
well, was there even a question? I don`t see any.
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If you arent willing to define your goals and provide actual info most arent going to be willing to help.

At the end of the day, it's just car audio man
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If you arent willing to define your goals and provide actual info most arent going to be willing to help.
It seems he was hypothetically speaking.
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It seems he was hypothetically speaking.
Oh, hypothetically speaking I'd say it works out something like this.

1. You design a Car audio system.
2. You purchase a Car based on Speaker locations, path lengths, depth behind doors panels, kick panels and trunk volume.
3. Tear down said car and begin prep for installation(dampening, deadening Wire management).
4. Install
5. Tune
6. Listen
7. Realize mistakes
8. Tear out said system
9. Start over with new equipment....

At the end of the day, it's just car audio man
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It's cool, Jazzi understood and gave a really good answer, so did Bayboy. And I'm all for humour, although mine tends to be a bit deadpan and stealthy it's healthy enough to get the jokes.
As far as my project goes I'm still at the inquisitive stage, which is a few iterations of looking around, reading a lot, putting down some markers and starting again. Right now it's a case of having way too many questions still which means I still have research to do. Stuff like ok my OEM has a 2 way door install with inline capacitors for the tweeter, so 1) figure out if I'm stuck with those, 2) figure out if it's better to keep those, 3) in fact would I want to keep all original wires and run new ones through...I have about 2000 of those so I have some work to do still.
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Oh, hypothetically speaking I'd say it works out something like this.

1. You design a Car audio system.
2. You purchase a Car based on Speaker locations, path lengths, depth behind doors panels, kick panels and trunk volume.
3. Tear down said car and begin prep for installation(dampening, deadening Wire management).
4. Install
5. Tune
6. Listen
7. Realize mistakes
8. Tear out said system
9. Start over with new equipment....
ideally I'd like to get to 10: Be happy enough with the result and move on. I won't have the budget for more than one complete install.
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Oh, hypothetically speaking I'd say it works out something like this.

1. You design a Car audio system.
2. You purchase a Car based on Speaker locations, path lengths, depth behind doors panels, kick panels and trunk volume.
3. Tear down said car and begin prep for installation(dampening, deadening Wire management).
4. Install
5. Tune
6. Listen
7. Realize mistakes
8. Tear out said system
9. Start over with new equipment....
That remind me of code writer washing his head.
on shampoo bottle it said
1. rinse your hear
2.Lather up — but only at the scalp. ...

4.rinse and repeat. ...






he is still in the shower....
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Default Re: The most important aspect of an audio setup

And I guess I should have put more emphasis on Budgeting. Although my first post was primarily about the wealth of confusing advice that can send people in the wrong direction, it was also about budgeting and avoiding the spending traps created by the wealth of expert advice that may simply be wrong or inapplicable at this time.
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