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Seeing as I really don't have too much to contribute elsewhere (many of you guys have a much more in-depth understanding of this hobby than I do), I figured I'd throw in the project I'm currently working on.

Being in the northeast without a garage, its wayyyy too cold to work on the car, so we turn our sight indoors. I've been wanting to upgrade my HT for a while now. The receiver does everything I could need currently and the new TV handles all the video without issue, but I could go for a matched set of speakers. The current plan was to go with a Triune 5.1 setup, but my receiver is not capable of delivering 4ohms continuously. I know I could go to the 8ohm version, TriTrix, but what if I want to upgrade again later? So in comes the project.

I started over at DIYAudio in the class D section. Aparently there was a company selling 4ch amp modules on eBay for $50. Figured it was worth a shot. So how about a chassis? back to eBay, awesome all aluminum chassis for $100 shipped (steel chassis available for under $50). RCA's and binding posts? ebay again, $10 for 10 rca's and $10 for a set of 4 binding posts. Switchmode power supply? guess where, eBay again.

So time for me to show some pics. Its not done, so bear with me, but everyone loves progress pics


this is the chassis as it arrived. from everything i could find, it was built better and cheaper than many of the other available options.


yes, 1/4" thick front panel. this thing looks good.


10 minutes later (I don't waste any time on this), the case all together. All the necessary hardware was included and all the holes had pressed in nuts, so no worries of stripped aluminum.


Here is the layout I'm going with, cept the PS will be on the opposite side. Nothing's bolted down, just checking for room.


the in's and out's. awesome quality for the money, quickly received (got them in 2days from Cali to Mass). I made an oops and ordered only half as many binding posts as i needed. more on the way.

So here is where I stand thus far. Beeing sick and working long hours makes progress slow, but I did start drilling out the rear panel for the hardware. Need to get some more screws, etc for mounting the boards, but otherwise everything is here. Oh, need to get a decent IEC socket, something thats maybe fused and filter, but who knows. Still trying to figure out how to get a Bulgin vandal switch (check google, you'll like what you see) to work as a power switch, but thats something for later.

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A) What kind of power are expecting from this unit?

B) What color switch are you going to use? (those swithes are pretty sweet looking.)

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they are "rated" at 100w @ 4ohm per channel. With all the math in place and running at 24-26v, I should see somewhere around 50-60w or so.

as for the switch, I'd really like to go blue. nothing on the front but that switch, centered & toward the bottom. simple and elegant. maybe come up with some kinda of logo to go one step further.

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definently needing some listening impressions when you capable, this looks to be a safe project.

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i did a test run with both amps just to make sure everything was working. unfortunately, one channel gave up the smoke ( ), but the other 7 work fine. speaking with the seller currently on their warranty policy. they seem to do pretty well, but there is a slight bit of noise if you put your ear up to the speaker. some people have done some mods to be rid of this noise, so i'm looking into that as soon as i get the thing together and at least do some quick listening. i understand $50 isnt going to buy the best amp in the world, but for my uses (mainly home theater and gaming) it should work well.

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Looks like a clean lay out .


I would place one UV Purple LED[everyone does the blue, just ask Chad] on the face and thats all. Put the switch on the back.


You got links to these amps?

Whos power supply is that? Link?


I see the heat sinks are on the amp boards and the power supply appear to have a fan. Are you going to do forced air cooling on the case?

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as for suppliers, here's the rundown:

amp modules and SMPS: Sure Electronics
chassis: biglawhk
rcas and binding posts: cnso138

some of the best pricing I've found online and great communication with everyone but Sure (and they aren't bad per se, but not quite as quick to respond or work with me like the other two).

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as for suppliers, here's the rundown:

amp modules and SMPS: Sure Electronics
chassis: biglawhk
rcas and binding posts: cnso138

some of the best pricing I've found online and great communication with everyone but Sure (and they aren't bad per se, but not quite as quick to respond or work with me like the other two).

ok so this modual?

http://cgi.ebay.com/4-100-watt-4ohm-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.sure-electronics.net/rf,audio/AA-AB009.pdf

Info, bingo




This your supply

http://cgi.ebay.com/24V-DC14-6A-350W...QQcmdZViewItem











Useing One power supply your going to be a little short on the current [ 5 to 10 amps, depends on volume and load]. Can you do 2 power supplies?


OR [ give me a second here]

2 of these

http://cgi.ebay.com/SIX-6-NEW-ELECTR...QQcmdZViewItem

or one of these

http://www.apexjr.com/capacitorsR.html

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adding the large assed caps will help on high peak currents, and help clean up the output of that power supply

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yessir. the SMPS I grabbed was their 24v, 14.6a piece. maybe not optimal of all channels are being driven, but chances of all 8 going full tilt (which wont be anytime soon as it will only be powering 5 speakers) is slim enough that it should do for now.

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Make sure you fuse the input ac and dc outputs on that thingy
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Kick ass project man. Keep it up and learn all you can.

I did a similar project a few years back. Bought up a dead ADCOM GFA-555II on ebay for around $80 shipped. Outputs were fried but the linear supply was good. I originally just bought it for the sexy chassis but ended up using the supply too. It is now a sub amp based around a Tripath 1KW (bridged) amp module. Pounds the bejeezus out of two Mass 2012 subs in my living room. I've never got around to measuring true output but my best estimate it will deliver a clean 800W into 4ohm.

I did a writeup on this project a while ago. However, can't find the log book for the life of me.

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It runs on a single ended power supply? Not Bi-Polar?
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It runs on a single ended power supply? Not Bi-Polar?
Yepper, I was thinking that to. But hell its a nice looking kit
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Yepper, I was thinking that to. But hell its a nice looking kit
No shit! That looks cool!
here's the power supply source I was looking at last night.....

Just throwing it out, looks strikingly similar eh?

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It runs on a single ended power supply? Not Bi-Polar?
What do you mean? I see right on the back panel that it has positive volts and negative volts .

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i think he's referring to +24 0 -24, but you may be just joking with me .
the gainclones i did before were like that, but this one is just +24 and 0.

i may look into getting a more powerful psu sometime, but for now this will at least get me going. i'll definately look into getting one of those caps, just need to see if i've got room.....

chad - that PS is only 2A, so not the best choice for running more than one or two channels.

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i think he's referring to +24 0 -24, but you may be just joking with me .
the gainclones i did before were like that, but this one is just +24 and 0.
He's just messin with me

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i may look into getting a more powerful psu sometime, but for now this will at least get me going. i'll definately look into getting one of those caps, just need to see if i've got room.....

chad - that PS is only 2A, so not the best choice for running more than one or two channels.
You did not look around They sell 500 watters and they will configure to what voltage you want

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thats what i get for jumpin the gun. sorry bout that.

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thats what i get for jumpin the gun. sorry bout that.
I'm on the edge of buying a 13.8V 500 watter as the grunt in building a PS for the car for the garage and possibly show. I'll let you know how it performs
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I'm on the edge of buying a 13.8V 500 watter as the grunt in building a PS for the car for the garage and possibly show. I'll let you know how it performs
You thinkin of bringin out the civic to some sound shows this year perhaps?

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You thinkin of bringin out the civic to some sound shows this year perhaps?
If I can find that goddamn rattle in my headliner that's driving me nuts and do some work on door treatment

I may do some rattle chasing tonight, my little wrench monkey is itching to take stuff apart.

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If I can find that goddamn rattle in my headliner that's driving me nuts and do some work on door treatment

I may do some rattle chasing tonight, my little wrench monkey is itching to take stuff apart.

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Check where the headliner meets the windsheild. I've had problems there before.

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Sweet!

Check where the headliner meets the windsheild. I've had problems there before.
It's back by where the sunroof mech is I'm sceart that it may be the mechanics itself.

Project ideas tonight are 50/50 decision between..... Find the noise and de-stink the car or work on the Smaart tutorial.

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It's back by where the sunroof mech is I'm sceart that it may be the mechanics itself.

Project ideas tonight are 50/50 decision between..... Find the noise and de-stink the car or work on the Smaart tutorial.

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ah didn't know you had a sunroof.

Put your wrench monkey to work and do the smaart tutorial while supervising.

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