So whats the first day bringing from CES

[AzGrower]

Today is the first day...any news so far guys? Come on you know you are on your laptop right now via the free WIFI connections in the lobby areas...Give us the first scoop and spy pics...

[newtitan]

lol, im at work not doing ANYTHING as I cant wait to go tommorrow

so whose got pics

how was the microsoft Vista presentation?


here is the new alpine OEM integration unit

VehicleHub Pro
Design by: Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.
www.alpine-usa.com

Best of Innovations Honoree
Alpine�s VehicleHub Pro allows for the addition of Alpine aftermarket audio, video and navigation products to an OEM system while keeping the functionality of the car�s HVAC controls in tact.

[ATB]

New alpine DVA-9861 supports DVD-Audio, has no glide touch and looks better than the 9860

http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...&lang=en&tab=D

[xencloud]

OMFG, a 2 DIN screen from Alpine! Woot!

[ATB]

Whats with the crappy small biolite screen on the new CDA-9857??

[MIAaron]

I don't know, it doesn't have bassenginepro either. Still, it's nice to see biolite in more decks. The 9861 looks great, I may just have to pick one of them up.

[ATB]

The only single DIN deck with Pro is now the DVA-9965

Aren't they suppsoed to improve the X-over from year to year? I am off to the eclipse site now

Originally Posted by MIAaron

I don't know, it doesn't have bassenginepro either.

Edit: Well that's poor...Eclipse has no new 06 CD units listed yet

[racerraul]

Originally Posted by ATB

New alpine DVA-9861 supports DVD-Audio, has no glide touch and looks better than the 9860

http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...&lang=en&tab=D

No Optical out on a DVD HU

I am diggin the Double Din HUm though... wish it had a volume knob, but I think I can live without one...

[ATB]

Originally Posted by racerraul

No Optical out on a DVD HU

optical out is listed under General features:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...&lang=en&tab=F

[AzGrower]

The stupid glide touch crap sucked. And yeah, would be nice to have the BassEngine Pro features...no active setups...

[newtitan]

okay I have officially found my new deck




IVA-W200

hope it gets released


+ some more info from another forum

Full Speed ipod no longer requires an additional black box, it is a direct connection to your iPOD using an optional $30 cable to connect it. No more protocol translations to slow down the communication, hence "Full Speed iPOD".

The unit is a self contained 2-DIN unit, no hideaway box!

Release should be around the end of the Q1 2006 (that's March, hopefully).

The Navigation solution I cannot say too much about. You will be able to add NAV to this screen with full touch controls, traffic updates and much more for about $1k or take it on the road with you in ANY car, even a rental!!! Can you say... P o R t A b L e ! ! !

Anything else I missed???

FEATURES

Tuner

* • HD Radio Ready
* • Preset Stations (FM:12/AM:6)
* • Auto Memory
* • Local/DX Selection
* • Preset Address Indicator
* • Up/Down Seek

HD Radio™ Ready

* • HD Radio Status Indicator
* • Automatic Digital/Analog Signal Switching

SAT Radio Ready

* • Sirius and XM Satellite Radio Compatible
* • Preset Memory, 3-Bands (18 Channels)
* • QuickSearch Function
* • Category Search
* • Text Scroll

Full Speed™ Connection for iPod®

* • Dedicated iPod Source Selection
* • Direct search function
* • Repeat One
* • Search Mode Selection (Playlist, Artist, Album, Song Title)
* • Shuffle (Albums, All)

CD Player

* • 24-Bit D/A Converter
* • Zero data Mute (0 Bit Mute)
* • Digital Servo
* • Music Sensor Up/Dn
* • Disc Play/Pause
* • Forward/Backward
* • Music Search Function
* • Dolby Digital/DTS Bit Stream Output
* • CD Text, CD Text Display, CD Text Scroll
* • MP3 Text Information Display (ID3 Tag)
* • MP3/WMA Decoder/Playback
* • M.I.X. One (Folder)/All (Random Play)
* • QuickSearch Function (MP3 Files)
* • CD-R/CD-RW Compatibility

DVD Player

* • DVD-Audio Playback (2 Channel mix-down)
* • DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD+R/DVD+RW Compatible
* • DVD-Video/DVD-VR Playback
* • DTS CD Playback
* • Dolby Digital Bit Stream (with 2 Channel mix-down)
* • DTS Digital Bit Stream (with 2 Channel mix-down)

CD Changer Control

* • Repeat (One/Disc)
* • Music Sensor Up/Down
* • Forward/Backward
* • Disc Play/Pause
* • Elapse Time Display
* • CD Text Display/Scroll
* • MP3 Text Information Display (ID3 Tag)
* • Multi-CD Changer Control (with KCA-410C)
* • MP3 Changer Ready (CHA-S634)
* • M.I.X. One/All (Random Play One or All)

Bass Engine® Sound Tuning

* • Subwoofer Level Adjustment
* • Bass Center Frequency Control
* • Bass Width Adjustment
* • Bass Level Adjustment
* • Treble Center Frequency Control
* • Treble Level Adjustment

General

* • 1 Aux A/V Input and 1 Aux A/V Output
* • 6.5¨ Widescreen Motorized Monitor
* • 50W x 4 High Power Amplifier
* • Auto Close/Open Capability
* • Rotary Encoder Volume Control (Pop-up Rotary Knob)
* • Black Face w/Blue illumination Buttons
* • 3 PreOut (2V PreOut)
* • Direct Touch DVD Menu Operation
* • Bluetooth® Ready
* • Data Download
* • Visual EQ
* • i-Personalize
* • Bass Engine
* • Subwoofer Level Control
* • Steering Wheel Remote Ready
* • MM Driver Ready (Hard Disc Drive Ready)
* • TDS Amp and Processor Control Capabilities
* • Optical Output
* • Built-in Dolby Digital /DTS Decoder (2-Channel Mix Down)
* • Separate Bass & Treble Control
* • Fader & Balance Controls
* • Loudness
* • S.T.M. (Source Tone Memory)
* • Clock
* • Detachable Trim Plate
* • Anti-Theft Detachable Front Panel
* • Dimmer-on Input
* • BlackOut Display
* • Rear Camera Input
* • Dedicated Navigation Input
* • Navigation Audio Mix
* • Power Antenna Lead
* • Remote-on Lead
* • Audio Interrupt In
* • Wireless Remote Control Included
* • Demo Function
* • Audio Mute
* • CD Changer Control Function

PECIFICATIONS

FM Tuner

* • Tuning Range: 87.7-107.9 MHz
* • Mono Usable Sensitivity: 9.3dBf (0.8 µV/75 ohms)
* • 50dB Quieting Sensitivity: 13.5dBf (1.3 µV/75 ohms)
* • Alternate Channel Selectivity: 80.0 dB
* • Signal-to-Noise (S/N): 80.0 dB
* • Stereo Separation: 35.0 dB
* • Capture Ratio: 2.0 dB

AM Tuner

* • Tuning Range: 530-1, 710kHz
* • Usable Sensitivity (IEC Standard): 22.5/27.0 (µV/dBf)

DVD Player

* • DAC Resolution: 24 Bit (Max)
* • DVD Frequency Response: 5Hz-22kHz (+-1dB)
* • CD Frequency Response: 5Hz-20khz (+-1dB)
* • WOW and Flutter: B.M.L
* • Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): 0.03%
* • Audio Output Level: 800mV (Fixed)
* • Operating Temperature: -10C to + 50C
* • Power Requirement: 11-16 volts DC (Negative ground)

CD Player

* • Sampling Rate: 44.1kHz
* • Signal-to-Noise (S/N): 105 dB
* • Frequency Response: 5-20k ±1 dB
* • Horizontal Resolution: 500 Lines or Greater
* • Channel Separation (1kHz): 85 dB
* • Dynamic Range (1kHz): 95 dB
* • Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): 0.008% (at 1kHz)
* • Number of DACs: 2
* • DAC Type: 24-bit D/A Converter
* • Optical Output: Toslink (Dolby Digital/DTS/LPCM)
* • Oversampling: 8x/352.8kHz
* • Wow & Flutter (%WRMS): B.M.L.

Monitor

* • Screen Size: 6.5inch Widescreen
* • LCD Type: Transparent type TN LCD
* • Operation System: TFT Active Matrix
* • Number of Picture Elements: 280,800 pcs (1,200 x 234)
* • Effective Number of Picture Elements: 99.99% or more
* • Display Wide Type: 3 Modes (Wide,Cinema, Normal)

Bass Engine® Sound Tuning

* • Subwoofer Level Adjustment Range: -15dB to 0dB (1dB steps)
* • Loudness Control at 100Hz (Max): +10dB
* • Bass Center Frequency : 60Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz
* • Bass Band Width Adjustment (Q): 4 choices (1 =wide, 4 =narrow)
* • Bass Level Control Range: +20dB to -14dB at 60Hz (2dB Steps)
* • Treble Center Frequency: 7.5kHz, 10.0kHz, 12.5kHz, 15.0kHz
* • Treble Level Control Range: +-14dB at 10.0kHz (2dB Steps)

Remote Control

* • Model Number: RUE-4203
* • Dimensions (W x H x D) in: 2" x 4-11/16" x 33/64"
* • Dimensions (W x H x D) mm: 51mm x 119mm x 13mm
* • Weight: 50g (1.8oz)
* • Battery: 1 x CR2025

Dimensions

* • Din Size: 2
* • Chassis Size (W x H x D) mm: 178mm x 100mm x 165mm
* • Chassis Size (W x H x D) in: 7" x 3-15/16" x 6-1/2"

General

* • CEA-2006 Power Rating (4Ohm@14.4 V =1% THD+N), S/N 80dBA (Ref: 1W into 4Ohm): 18W x 4
* • Max Power Output: 50W x 4
* • Pre Output Voltage (Before Clipping): 2V
* • Power Requirement: 14.4 (11-16) V.DC
* • Operating Temperature ( °C/ °F): +32 °F to +113 °F (0 °C to +45 °C)
* • Maximum Mounting Angle: 30° from Horizontal
* • Weight: 2.9 kg. (6 lbs. 22 oz.)

and the new apple IPOD FULL SPEED

CE-422i
Full Speed Connection Cable for iPod Price:
$30.00 US /(TBD) CAN

Now you can maximize your in-car iPod® experience! Just one simple cable that goes directly into the all-new 2006 Alpine Full Speed™ Connection for iPod compatible head units. With no additional box required, directly connect your iPod for full control, full sound at full speed with an easy-to-use search interface. You have control right from the head unit, faster than other iPod connection solutions Enhanced features include 200 percent faster data transmission for quick and easy file navigation, as well as full-tag artist, album, song and playlist information displayed directly on the head unit, all while charging the iPod battery. Alpine’s exclusive Percentage Search allow you to toggle quickly through your Playlist, Arist, or Album on your iPod. Even faster file searching can be found in four of the Alpine units (DVA-9861, IVA-D100, IVA-W200, and CDA-9857) Use "Mix All" to shuffle your music. Alpine Full Speed connectivity offers an improved integrated solution that supercharges your music!
* Compatible with any updated iPod with a dock connector, as well as an iPod video, iPod nano, iPod photo or iPod mini.

[xencloud]

^^one question, does that H/U have optical outs to connect to the H701? If so, total sweetness! lol

[racerraul]

Originally Posted by ATB

optical out is listed under General features:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...&lang=en&tab=F

Very cool, then...

And yes the Double Din has Optical out as well... so both make very good affordable options to use with the 701 combo...

[ATB]

It would be really cool if the full speed Ipod interface did the D/A on the deck or could send it to a 701..doubtful though.

[TomT]

But does it replace the 310 as a 701 touch screen CONTROLLER???

It does look pretty cool. I'll have to read more after work.

[ATB]

Originally Posted by TomT

But does it replace the 310 as a 701 touch screen CONTROLLER???

It does look pretty cool. I'll have to read more after work.

If not at least the RUX would give you a rotary volume control

[brandont]

The W200 is supposed to control the H701 just like the two multi channel amps. The D310 is still a current model. The W200 has the pulsetouch as well as the new D100.
The new DVA-9861 can also control the H701

[Hipnotic4]

omfg...///Alpine is looking at a good year

[FocusInCali]

Originally Posted by brandont

The W200 is supposed to control the H701 just like the two multi channel amps. The D310 is still a current model. The W200 has the pulsetouch as well as the new D100.
The new DVA-9861 can also control the H701

The 9861 and W200 both list:

• TDS Amp and Processor Control Capabilities
• Optical Output

sweet!!

[FocusInCali]

Seems pretty moronic for the 9861 and 200 to be completely loaded with all those features, including dual 24-bit DACs, and not have Bass Engine Pro with DSP.

And the 9965 has BEP, but not DVD-Audio.

None of the units have all the features in one.

It looks like the 9861 or 200 with H701 will be the popular Alpine setup.

[brandont]

Actually, I heard last year the DVA-9965 was supposed to play DVD-Audio. However, you never know since it took 9 months to reach Crutchfield and it still isn't in stock.

[AzGrower]

Yeah I am kind of disappointed that the BEP is not a standard feature on all the HUs that have the 3 RCA outputs and cost over $300. I was looking at an in dash DVD player with BEP. Seems like they want you to buy the 701 too...

[newtitan]

lesson to the traveler, southwest likes to overbook ( or am I the only one that didnt know this :lol)

man I get to the terminal with 20 minutes to spare, and I notice like three people getting on the plane. I walk up wiht my trusty home printed boarding pass, ID, etc--camera--two batteries, two CF cards readt to go.

get to the terminal, and they tell me I needed to get to the terminal with mor than 30 minutes or they have the right to give my seat away--and they just did, told me I was 3 minutes too late as the flight was no full. arrrrgh


and that I cant get on another flight till 11am--with the doors @ CES closing at 6pm, it wasnt even going to be worth it for maybe 4 hours or so once I would have gotten to the convention center after taxis and all that

so I bummed as Im back at work waiting for pictures just like everyone else darn, maybe next year I guess

[SQ_Bronco]

Man that sucks... you sure you can't come tomorrow?

[npdang]

Don't have a picture, but I went by the Morel booth and they have a new Supremo mid/bass and tweeter.

I was told the tweeter is named the "Piccolo" and has the exact same dome/motor as the larger version. The nice thing is that the flange is significantly smaller than the Supremo and it's a bit shallower too.

The mid/bass looked like their other mids... 3" vc and I believe a paper cone?