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Default Smallest 4ga wire?

What's the smallest 4ga wire you guys know of? I often run into the problem that my 4ga wire won't easily or neatly fit into the 4ga wire opening in the amp.

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What's the smallest 1 inch circle you have seen ?

smallest gallon of liquid ?
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4 gauge wire should be 4 gauge. Anything smaller is not 4 gauge and is actually shit if it's sold as being 4 gauge.
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That would be the US Gallon ...the largest gallon of liquid I have seen is the Imperial Gallon.

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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

DHD 4g. more like 12g copper clad followed very close by american accessories
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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

Come on, I can't be the only guy who's seen the difference.

Aka: audison 4ga wire is very flexible and thinner than the really cheap stuff (can't think a name) but there are differences. Or maybe the differences are just in the strands so when you remove the plastic cover they don't puff up?

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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

When comparing wire that is truly 4 ga, the only difference would be the thickness of the insulation. Trying to find the wire with the thinnest sheath might not be the best plan for use in a vehicle.
Unfortunately, there are a number of unscrupulous manufacturers who produce wire with less copper and market it as a lower gauge than it actually is. Usually they make the plastic sheathing thicker to make it look like it is the same size.
But because your issue is with the termination at the amp- There are adaptors which connect to the end of the wire and have a smaller diameter post which connects to the amp. That would be a better option than looking to use thinner wire.
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When comparing wire that is truly 4 ga, the only difference would be the thickness of the insulation. Trying to find the wire with the thinnest sheath might not be the best plan for use in a vehicle.
Unfortunately, there are a number of unscrupulous manufacturers who produce wire with less copper and market it as a lower gauge than it actually is. Usually they make the plastic sheathing thicker to make it look like it is the same size.
But because your issue is with the termination at the amp- There are adaptors which connect to the end of the wire and have a smaller diameter post which connects to the amp. That would be a better option than looking to use thinner wire.
Do you have a example of the adapter you had in mind? I was always under the impression that banana type plugs into the amp were bad

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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

You could just cut some of the extra strands off a true 4 AWG wire, then it would fit just fine. The amount of extra resistance due to the last <1" of your wire being small would be negligible.

If you actually want less copper, you could go for power wires by IMC audio, or simply find a true 6 AWG kit.

Finally, if you want to use an adapter as mentioned earlier, you would go for something like this: Stinger Power Wire Adapter 4 ga to 8 gauge - Quantity 2 - eBay (item 130313974555 end time Jun-28-09 19:00:00 PDT)

I didn't price shop for you, you might find a better price if you look around. Any of the options I mentioned should work.

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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

It's about flow rate

If a garden hose is too big . . . then use a straw [ only so much can flow thru a smaller diameter wire, hose , etc..,]

I am lucky where I live the firetrucks have hoses that can connect to the fire hydrants . . . which makes a slight difference [ sub bass hits ] compared to a garden hose [ treble {midrange and tweeters} hits ]
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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

If you properly cut the insulation and don't disturb the wire (don't twist it) it should fit no problem. If the wire is still too large then you must have 6 ga terminals. As others have stated, just cut the wire down or use a power wire reducer http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

.... no need to replace all of your wire for something so simple. Just cut your insulation the old fashion way....use a utility knife and cut around about 3/4 through and peel it off by hand without messing up the shape of the wire.
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It's about flow rate

If a garden hose is too big . . . then use a straw [ only so much can flow thru a smaller diameter wire, hose , etc..,]

I am lucky where I live the firetrucks have hoses that can connect to the fire hydrants . . . which makes a slight difference [ sub bass hits ] compared to a garden hose [ treble {midrange and tweeters} hits ]
Well, all of the power to your system run through your fuses, what diameter are they and how much do they affect power delivery?? Something to think about..


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Well, all of the power to your system run through your fuses, what diameter are they and how much do they affect power delivery?? Something to think about..

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Well, all of the power to your system run through your fuses, what diameter are they and how much do they affect power delivery?? Something to think about..

i was gonna say this but i kept my mouth shut

its only about resistance..that is the only thing affecting the current flow. 4 gauge is rated at about 135 amps before it melts or whatever. so as long as the fuse or anything thing making a circuit can handle that many amps according to its resistance rating then it doesnt matter how big it is. i would do some math right now but im too tired. so ill leave it be at that.

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Default Re: Smallest 4ga wire?

What's the most flexible 4ga wire you know of?

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Well, all of the power to your system run through your fuses, what diameter are they and how much do they affect power delivery?? Something to think about..

Shapes of fuses are different . . . but the key here is the rating { if it is rated for the flow rate or amperage, it will handle that amount }


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Well, all of the power to your system run through your fuses, what diameter are they and how much do they affect power delivery?? Something to think about..
The material a fuse is made from is what determines the size and how much current can safely flow thru it
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back in Nam i once saw a 4gauge wire so small u could sit on it. Man was that the day!
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It's about flow rate

If a garden hose is too big . . . then use a straw [ only so much can flow thru a smaller diameter wire, hose , etc..,]

I am lucky where I live the firetrucks have hoses that can connect to the fire hydrants . . . which makes a slight difference [ sub bass hits ] compared to a garden hose [ treble {midrange and tweeters} hits ]
You're still selling this?

To the OP: I feel your pain. Some 4ga seems LARGER and can be very inconvenient when trying to get a nice clean fit. Even shaving some of the strands is nonideal, because it's often hard to get it right up to the hilt perfectly.

Just use 8ga.

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You're still selling this?

To the OP: I feel your pain. Some 4ga seems LARGER and can be very inconvenient when trying to get a nice clean fit. Even shaving some of the strands is nonideal, because it's often hard to get it right up to the hilt perfectly.

Just use 8ga.
Finally somebody who admits that not all 4ga wires are equal in size when stripped.

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American wire gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The cross-sectional area of each gauge is an important factor for determining its current-carrying capacity.


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You're still selling this?

If it doesn't matter how much current it carries ... I'd go with the smallest wire for ease of concealment

To the OP: I feel your pain. Some 4ga seems LARGER and can be very inconvenient when trying to get a nice clean fit. Even shaving some of the strands is nonideal, because it's often hard to get it right up to the hilt perfectly.

Just use 8ga.
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American wire gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The cross-sectional area of each gauge is an important factor for determining its current-carrying capacity.
No shit sherlock. What you quoted wasn't even written by me!

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It's only about resistance then ?
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