Why not buy them through Al & ed's same price plus they are authorized...
I just checked and sonic is $99 and Al & Ed is $159. So if I buy from Sonic and something happens I can just use that $60 I saved and buy a new one. What I would get from paying the extra $60 to buy authorized isn't worth it in my opinion. Now if we were talking about a product that was $1k or more it might change my mind.
I just checked and sonic is $99 and Al & Ed is $159. So if I buy from Sonic and something happens I can just use that $60 I saved and buy a new one. What I would get from paying the extra $60 to buy authorized isn't worth it in my opinion. Now if we were talking about a product that was $1k or more it might change my mind.
I just checked and sonic is $99 and Al & Ed is $159. So if I buy from Sonic and something happens I can just use that $60 I saved and buy a new one. What I would get from paying the extra $60 to buy authorized isn't worth it in my opinion. Now if we were talking about a product that was $1k or more it might change my mind.
As indicated in my previous post (and Trojan fan's), Al and Eds will price match the Sonic Electronix price, offer free shipping, and they're authorized.
2011 MINI Cooper S :: [build log] :: [new CarPC project]
HAT L6SE, L3SE, L1 Pro R2. 4x Alpine SWR-843D, 2x JL XD700/5, 2x XD500/3, Alpine H800, RUXC800, Mac Mini CarPC
As indicated in my previous post (and Trojan fan's), Al and Eds will price match the Sonic Electronix price, offer free shipping, and they're authorized.
Give them a break, I almost didn't figure it out. I'd never heard of Al and Eds before this thread.
2011 MINI Cooper S :: [build log] :: [new CarPC project]
HAT L6SE, L3SE, L1 Pro R2. 4x Alpine SWR-843D, 2x JL XD700/5, 2x XD500/3, Alpine H800, RUXC800, Mac Mini CarPC
Why not buy them through Al & ed's same price plus they are authorized...
Wow, I was not familiar with these guys either until I started looking for an JL HD amp. Really thinking that I might want to buy Authorized. Looks like they will match Sonics price on the JL also.
Looking for opinion. I have up to 2.2 cubes of space (gross) to spare, and I was thinking of getting two 12' type R's, in a sealed box. I think I prefer the sound of a sealed box, but it seems that a lot of people prefer ported boxes. They will be powered by an M12. Ther rest of my system consists of three ways, so the sub will be low passed from may be 60hz down. So, are two 12's in 2.2 cubes sealed the best option? Can someone here model that for me please?
Looking for opinion. I have up to 2.2 cubes of space (gross) to spare, and I was thinking of getting two 12' type R's, in a sealed box. I think I prefer the sound of a sealed box, but it seems that a lot of people prefer ported boxes. They will be powered by an M12. Ther rest of my system consists of three ways, so the sub will be low passed from may be 60hz down. So, are two 12's in 2.2 cubes sealed the best option? Can someone here model that for me please?
Well you could go with 3-4 8s ported which would be VERY VERY VERY impressive, 1 12" ported which would probably be my #2 choice....The two 12 sealed will also be great. I dont think your going to make a bad choice thats for sure.... The 8s will be tight and super clean (not that the others wont be!) and you will have the "cool" factor with the 8s (they will blow your mind
One 12 with a lot of power will create a lot of LOW energy in a 3way setup if you only need lowest of lows... The 12" pair will give you the most flexibility in my opinion (easy flexibility I should say...)
A well designed ported box will sound amazing in all aspects. People get turned off because 8-10 ported boxes you hear are probably not optimally designed for there intended drivers and installation/freq range. If you make it to FIT your setup you will likely never look back!
Thanks. 8's aren't available where I am. The point you made about properly designed ported box is one of the reasons I prefer a sealed box, harder for the installer to stuff up. I used to have a DD in a ported box and didn't like the sound, but that might just be the box.
What is the optimal volume for a sealed 12? Is Alpine's recommendation of 1 cube on the mark? Sorry to go off topic, discussing 12 rather that 8.
I have found alpines specs to be extremely accurate for most situations.... I would hope for Jim to chime in seeing as how he probably designed it? Great subs though....all the sizes of the type r's
Got my four 843D's delivered via Fedex Saturday. I'm still weeks away from having a custom box built, and in the mean-time, I'm stuck here wondering how these little things are going to hit the low notes... They're so tiny, and I'm used to 12's... Did I make a $400 mistake? Are these things even capable of playing Dubstep, or will they just explode? It will be several weeks before I have answers to these important questions.
2011 MINI Cooper S :: [build log] :: [new CarPC project]
HAT L6SE, L3SE, L1 Pro R2. 4x Alpine SWR-843D, 2x JL XD700/5, 2x XD500/3, Alpine H800, RUXC800, Mac Mini CarPC
Got my four 843D's delivered via Fedex Saturday. I'm still weeks away from having a custom box built, and in the mean-time, I'm stuck here wondering how these little things are going to hit the low notes... They're so tiny, and I'm used to 12's... Did I make a $400 mistake? Are these things even capable of playing Dubstep, or will they just explode? It will be several weeks before I have answers to these important questions.
Well if you have read anything about them you would know that the perform far beyond there size so playing low will not be an issue. BUT 8s are 8s and 12s are 12s and thats never going to change. 4 of the swr8s ported will play very loud and low. Will they compete with a pair of 12s? That depends on subs, power, and box.
Not to sound cold or mean, but if you did make a $400.00 "mistake" it will only be because of the lack of research into what your "needs" are. Not because of the subs! That being said, I think you will be pretty shocked by the performance of these "little" babies
Well if you have read anything about them you would know that the perform far beyond there size so playing low will not be an issue. BUT 8s are 8s and 12s are 12s and thats never going to change. 4 of the swr8s ported will play very loud and low. Will they compete with a pair of 12s? That depends on subs, power, and box.
Not to sound cold or mean, but if you did make a $400.00 "mistake" it will only be because of the lack of research into what your "needs" are. Not because of the subs! That being said, I think you will be pretty shocked by the performance of these "little" babies
My original comment wasn't to be taken too seriously. What I was trying to convey was that my brain says (thanks to this forum) they'll do everything I need, but my eyes say they're too damn small to do it these are my first set of eights and I'm still getting used to how tiny they are. I'm just bummed it will be weeks before I hear them. It's like waiting for Christmas in October.
Back on topic.. I was going to run the four 843D's sealed, but I keep hearing how awesome they sound ported. I want them to dig as low as possible... I will be able to flatten the response with equalization if to keep it flat. Not sure I have the space for a larger ported box though.
2011 MINI Cooper S :: [build log] :: [new CarPC project]
HAT L6SE, L3SE, L1 Pro R2. 4x Alpine SWR-843D, 2x JL XD700/5, 2x XD500/3, Alpine H800, RUXC800, Mac Mini CarPC
Have not ran the Alpine 8's but I can say that my son started out with 4 Sundown E8'son 1000 watts. we used a PWK designed enclosure. He listens to mostly rap/hiphop. If you are afraid that the 8's won't hit low, you will be happily surprised! And to increase that low end output while also keeping excursion down, go ported.
Alpine 9884, C701, H701
Dayton RS225,BG Neo3,BG Neo8, TC 3000 15 DVC
Sundown SAX 100.4D X 2,Sundown SAZ 1500D
Got my four 843D's delivered via Fedex Saturday. I'm still weeks away from having a custom box built, and in the mean-time, I'm stuck here wondering how these little things are going to hit the low notes... They're so tiny, and I'm used to 12's... Did I make a $400 mistake? Are these things even capable of playing Dubstep, or will they just explode? It will be several weeks before I have answers to these important questions.
IMO to really get the most bang out them you need to run them ported....sealed will sound great, but ported takes them to the next level
My original comment wasn't to be taken too seriously. What I was trying to convey was that my brain says (thanks to this forum) they'll do everything I need, but my eyes say they're too damn small to do it these are my first set of eights and I'm still getting used to how tiny they are. I'm just bummed it will be weeks before I hear them. It's like waiting for Christmas in October.
Back on topic.. I was going to run the four 843D's sealed, but I keep hearing how awesome they sound ported. I want them to dig as low as possible... I will be able to flatten the response with equalization if to keep it flat. Not sure I have the space for a larger ported box though.
No prob! Comments made are not only responses to individual posts but to anyone out there looking so the statements I made were not only meant towards you, but could help others scrolling through (fyi...there was no indication that you were saying anything in jest?)
I would not go sealed with them for what your after! MAKE ROOM and go ported! YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY Do it, DO IT
Sorry to but in but I have only one and I wanted it in my VW Gti. So I should port it and power it with how much? Just for a heads up I am going with Hertz HDP amps. Please advise, critique, lol, just provide a reason why you suggest what amount of power. Tia....
Sorry to but in but I have only one and I wanted it in my VW Gti. So I should port it and power it with how much? Just for a heads up I am going with Hertz HDP amps. Please advise, critique, lol, just provide a reason why you suggest what amount of power. Tia....
I would shoot for 4-500 personally. That will give more then enough juice but not likely enough to do damage because of to much power. Bottom line, is it can handle that kind of power all day with no problem. Less is fine too! I would try and get at least 250 to it as a minimum IMO.
You will LOVE IT!
I just happen to have an Alpine PDX 600/1 amp. I see what I will be doing with that. Unless my wife comes off some money so that I can buy two Hertz amps lol.