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Forgive if the terminology is off a bit...I was messing around with WinISD last night but I don't have it on this computer at work so I'll be winging it as far as wordage

While messing with WinISD, using a 1.5" round port, it seemed to have quite a bit of port noise/air movement. I upped the size to 2" and it seemed to drop much of it...but the port ended up something like 12" long (don't remember exactly). If I understand correctly, it shouldn't matter if use a 90 elbow to get full port length right?
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Maybe I missed it...are the external dimentions posted somewhere? Trying to see how many will fit in 38.5x25.25x8.
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Gonna be installing these tomorrow. Can't wait
Curious about your results eggyhustles, I might be making a move to these aswell from an ultimo, perhaps 4 8's

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Maybe I missed it...are the external dimentions posted somewhere? Trying to see how many will fit in 38.5x25.25x8.
That's just over 3 cubes if you're talking about an enclosure that's already built. After you account for driver displacement, I would say you only have enough airspace for about 8 of them.

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Curious about your results eggyhustles, I might be making a move to these aswell from an ultimo, perhaps 4 8's
Had to put the project on hold due to work, hoping to get them in next Saturday.

OP, my friend picked up two of the 10's. I'm thinking low tuned ported(28-30hz). Would 2.5 net tuned to 30hz work?
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question for you Jim,
so I have the previous type-r 10 could I port that sub in a box @ .8 cubes or should I give up on that and do this 8 instead. What would be the specs for either recommended ported setup? I would love to get this new 8 but at the same time I have an unopened 3rd gen 10.

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Here's my modified 10" enclosure that I'm fiberglassing to put an 8" type R





I got alot of work ahead of me but I dont even have the sub yet.

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Better to have a box ready then to have a sub waiting
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I'm doing a layer a day until she's done lol. I'm just going to have it carpeted, I don't think I can do it myself.

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Elemental designs did a great video/how to carpeting boxes.... Google it (i'm sure its easy to find). Makes it really easy to follow. Just get something flexible

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Are you going to port the enclosure?

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question for you Jim,
so I have the previous type-r 10 could I port that sub in a box @ .8 cubes or should I give up on that and do this 8 instead. What would be the specs for either recommended ported setup? I would love to get this new 8 but at the same time I have an unopened 3rd gen 10.

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The 10" will get louder in the equal vented enclosure but the 8" will sound significantly better than the last gen. I'd prefer to see the 8" in 0.65 with a nice port to let it breathe. Overall size should be right about 0.75-0.8 Unless you're a super basshead you'll be very happy with the setup.

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Here's my modified 10" enclosure that I'm fiberglassing to put an 8" type R





I got alot of work ahead of me but I dont even have the sub yet.
How big is that gonna be? Volume-wise

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Its around .44 cuft, but there's alot of wood inside the box that's not figured in, and the Speaker isn't calculated into that either.

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Its around .44 cuft, but there's alot of wood inside the box that's not figured in, and the Speaker isn't calculated into that either.
A bit on the large side, but you can always fill it a rad to adjust for your tastes. LF extension vs Impact.

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I just did the math to figure in the wood I used to prop the ring and the piece to hold the amp. The total volume will be a little under .30cuft

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I just did the math to figure in the wood I used to prop the ring and the piece to hold the amp. The total volume will be a little under .30cuft
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The 10" will get louder in the equal vented enclosure but the 8" will sound significantly better than the last gen. I'd prefer to see the 8" in 0.65 with a nice port to let it breathe. Overall size should be right about 0.75-0.8 Unless you're a super basshead you'll be very happy with the setup.

ok, so I'm stoked about this new 8. My custom fiber/mdf box is easy to modify so this looks like the route to take. My box is .8 cubes so should I use a 3in port at 20in length? I like my music loud and low so tuning into the mid 30s should be good enough?

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Jim any pics of the 8" installed in the camaro? Rex did you get to hear yours yet?

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ok, so I'm stoked about this new 8. My custom fiber/mdf box is easy to modify so this looks like the route to take. My box is .8 cubes so should I use a 3in port at 20in length? I like my music loud and low so tuning into the mid 30s should be good enough?

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Is that 0.8 cubes gross, before we subtract the woofer displacement and port displacement? If so, this will be pretty good .. if that's assumed to be after, its a tad big for this but will just be a bit fat on the low end maybe how you like it.

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Hey Jim,

I need some advice.
I have been patiently waiting to get ahold of these subs since they were announced earlier this year. My current setup:
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Alpine PDX M12 running a temporary sub until i decide on what to do with the 8"s

So, the original plan was to cut out the storage units (for the jack etc.) under the back seats and Build a box for 4 of the type R 8"s in a sealed enclosure. This would be great, except for it would be time consuming, high cost, and I would lose my storage area. I am now thinking of building an enclosure between the seats and put possibly 3 or 4 of the 8"s in there. I was thinking maybe 2 downfiring and 1 up? or all three up?
What is your opinion and what should I am for for volume and anything else? Thank you in advance!

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Is that 0.8 cubes gross, before we subtract the woofer displacement and port displacement? If so, this will be pretty good .. if that's assumed to be after, its a tad big for this but will just be a bit fat on the low end maybe how you like it.

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yes sir, .8 cubes gross. Or would the new 10 be a better option? But I would rather hang w/ the 8 though.
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Just wanted to post the TS parameters of these woofers for non-DIYMA members...since I couldn't find them anywhere:


SWR-823D

Nominal Impedance = 2 + 2 Ohms
Frequency Response = 28-200 Hz
Sensitivity @ 1W/1m = 83.5 dB
Re = 1.85 + 1.85 Ohms
Le @ 1 kHz/ 20 kHz = 0.87 mH/ 0.30 mH
Fs = 38 Hz
Vas = 12 L (0.42 ft3)
Qms = 7.8
Qes = 0.55
Qts = 0.50
Xmax @ 10% Distortion = 14 mm
Xmech = 52 mm
Hag = 10 mm
Hvc = 29 mm
Sd = 201 cm2
VC Diameter = 40 mm (1.6")
Magnet Weight = 52 oz

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SWR-843D

Nominal Impedance = 4 + 4 Ohms
Frequency Response = 28-200 Hz
Sensitivity @ 1W/1m = 83.5 dB
Re = 3.7 + 3.7 Ohms
Le @ 1 kHz/ 20 kHz = 1.23 mH/ 0.35 mH
Fs = 40 Hz
Vas = 12 L (0.42 ft3)
Qms = 7.5
Qes = 0.60
Qts = 0.55
Xmax @ 10% Distortion = 14 mm
Xmech = 52 mm
Hag = 10 mm
Hvc = 29 mm
Sd = 201 cm2
VC Diameter = 40 mm (1.6")
Magnet Weight = 52 oz


PS - These should be an interesting upgrade from my GTO804s.
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