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I agree that 90% of the people will be fine with the regular one. It's the elitist that will take it to the next level with the Pro. Either that or those who convince themselves that one day they will run 10 channels ( hint hint ) lol.
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The BT module will have AptX lossless codec support!!! Very cool!

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DSP Pro has the same 2 presets that can be saved on the unit as the current Helix DSP.

But they are planning a new display/controller unit by the end of the year which will offer up to 20 preset selections.

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Here is some information!!!
Now who is going to get this.
Retail is about $1000.00.
Will sell in stores for about $950.
They will make sure to hit most with an install ticket on this one.

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still getting one.

heck, I may get a couple for my home system.

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Here is some information!!!
Now who is going to get this.
Retail is about $1000.00.
Will sell in stores for about $950.
They will make sure to hit most with an install ticket on this one.
That's like a standard price for any decent DSP in Sweden, don't complain xD

Both Alpine H800 and JBL MS8 costs above $1100 here ^^

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That's like a standard price for any decent DSP in Sweden, don't complain xD

Both Alpine H800 and JBL MS8 costs above $1100 here ^^
Just buy it on'line from across the pond. Even with 24 hr FedEx delivery and assuming 20% duty you should still save some.

For all the love the Helix gets I could never understand why the EQ is in +/- 1 db steps, wow that is really coarse!! This is the reason I never upgraded my dsp spoiled rotten by the +/- 0.3db on the Bit processors. It makes a huge difference imho.

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For all the love the Helix gets I could never understand why the EQ is in +/- 1 db steps, wow that is really coarse!! This is the reason I never upgraded my dsp spoiled rotten by the +/- 0.3db on the Bit processors. It makes a huge difference imho.
DSP Pro has .25dB steps.

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Just buy it on'line from across the pond. Even with 24 hr FedEx delivery and assuming 20% duty you should still save some.

For all the love the Helix gets I could never understand why the EQ is in +/- 1 db steps, wow that is really coarse!! This is the reason I never upgraded my dsp spoiled rotten by the +/- 0.3db on the Bit processors. It makes a huge difference imho.
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Erin let us know how this goes. I won't go near it until its proven stable!

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My HelixDSP does everything i need it to do, but i am hoping to be able to get the 3.0 software update, and be able to be able to be compatible with the new remote.

But neither of those 2 things would tempt me to move to the DSP Pro if they don't work with the older HelixDSP.

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so let me think this thru...10 channels.

Front 3 way...plus stereo sub...plus rear passive?
That's what I want to do with my install. This is brilliant for me. Now all I have to do is get one to Australia

Mind you, we need is to convince someone to go 12 channels

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Why would u need or even want stereo sub?


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DSP Pro has .25dB steps.
Yeah but think of everyone who bought the earlier unit and are stuck with the coarser resolution. Unless Helix is giving everyone a software upgrade aka apple. I mean it's something that could easily have been done in the C-DSP / P-DSP models.

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For all the love the Helix gets I could never understand why the EQ is in +/- 1 db steps, wow that is really coarse!! This is the reason I never upgraded my dsp spoiled rotten by the +/- 0.3db on the Bit processors. It makes a huge difference imho.
I've been with bitten for over a year and when i change to helix dsp with the same settings the difference was huge.The Helix sound more alive,cleaner, give's you the feeling that you have more Power in your system than before, i am in love with it!!!!!
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I've been with bitten for over a year and when i change to helix dsp with the same settings the difference was huge.The Helix sound more alive,cleaner, give's you the feeling that you have more Power in your system than before, i am in love with it!!!!!
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I've been with the bit10 for about six. My bit10 has the random hiss issue. Happens sometimes when I have the volume cranked. A simple shut down and restart cures it and it's not that frequent either.

I've invested way too much time in tuning at this resolution to get the sound to a certain point. Don't want to relearn tuning at 1 db resolution and then spend another few thousand hours dialing it in. I'm not switching dsp till I can exactly transfer my eq settings to the new dsp. Not sure how you could transfer your bit10 setting to the helix unless you only used the eq in +/- 1db steps on the bit10.

The reason why you get the feeling of more Power on the Helix is because you're making changes at +/- 1db. You'll hear a much bigger difference at that resolution than you will at +/- 0.3 db.

The bit10 is going to go belly up for the final time in the not to distant future. I'll probably give the Helix Pro a look. It has a lot of cool features but stuff I don't really use. I'm more of a manual tuner.

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So what makes the helix Pro a not so good choice for a "manual tuner"? I think everyone involved in this thread is a "manual tuner". So what is it the bit10 has for a "manual tuner" the helix DSL doesn't?

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Why would u need or even want stereo sub?
Im guessing he means sub output left and right output? I know mono amos sum internally anyway
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The 1dB increments haven't been that much of an issue to me, got the P99RS as source and can fine-tune 0,5dB +/- there

Still.. it would be nice to have that 0,5dB in the software. Less than that isn't necessary imo. Rather have 1dB increment gain and parametric EQ than 0,1dB gain and GEQ.

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So what makes the helix Pro a not so good choice for a "manual tuner"? I think everyone involved in this thread is a "manual tuner". So what is it the bit10 has for a "manual tuner" the helix DSL doesn't?
IMHO some of the strengths on the Helix include, it allows you to dial in the curve you want, you measure something and just flatten the peaks in one go, even the measuring process itself. I'm sure there's more that I'm not even aware of.

You can't do any of that with the bit10. But it's more intuitive for someone like me who after measuring to a certain point, hears the sound and goes "definitely need to cut 1.6 by 0.5 db", "nope not enough, just a touch more", so another 0.3 db more, that's perfect. Now to cut the graininess at 1.25 khz, cut 1.5db. Wait that's too much so raise it 0.3 db and round it off by cutting thickness on vocals a bit so cut 300 by 0.5db. Now the thick grainy biting vocals are better. 80 of tuning work is on the eq and for me resolution is very important imho.

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The 1dB increments haven't been that much of an issue to me, got the P99RS as source and can fine-tune 0,5dB +/- there

Still.. it would be nice to have that 0,5dB in the software. Less than that isn't necessary imo. Rather have 1dB increment gain and parametric EQ than 0,1dB gain and GEQ.
....lol so now I know why you're using the p99 as a source

If you're used to tuning at +/- 1db that's the sensitivity your ears are settled in to. Now if you change the eq to +/- 0.5 db, it will take your ears a while to settle in before they can tell better/worse with good accuracy. Same thing again when you drop down to 0.2-3 db. It takes a while for the ears to get used to that sensitivity. But once settled you will absolutely hear a difference even at the 0.2-0.3 db sensitivity.

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