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This being discussed heavily on the fb page right now but still a little baffled.
What Facebook page is that?
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Strictly sound quality
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So I guess all inputs are equal now. The usb1 and 2 just being turned on via software update due to licensing issue before.
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it still says this on the product info page on sony's website:

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...and from the features page:

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Experiencing the highest quality playback on the RSX-GS9 is easy: just connect your High-Resolution Audio capable smartphone or player to the front-facing micro USB port and you’re ready to go. This connection makes sure audio signals pass directly through the industry-leading ESS D/A converter, so you can enjoy great-sounding lossless DSD and linear PCM playback.

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I'm sure the website is the last thing to get updated. All usb being equal came from a comment on the fb thread, someone actually called Sony and was told all usb handle dsd and follow the exact same path to the dac.
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Has anyone taken one of these apart yet or have a source for a service manual?

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So my GS9 is in.. And it definitely delivers the sound, no doubt. I can say without a doubt the best I've run so far for SQ.

So how are you guys "successfully" accessing and playing from USB drives connected, USB1 or 2, with phone/device not wired but connected via Bluetooth and Songpal or how you doing it?

This current revision of SongPal is so terribly bad visually.. Blinding black and white. That wasn't broken but they tried to fix it and it's god awful IMO.

But functionally SongPal doesn't seem much better. I'd even thought of creating a SongPal specific thread but share your experiences and knowledge on the interfacing of you would GS9 guys. I got so far as getting it to show the USB tracks in what appears to be the most rudimentary, unimpressive player I think I've ever seen.

I did decide Onkyo HF Player will be the way to go for main player on my iPhone 6, and solely for high-res from phone, with USB connection.

Is Sony doing some kind of big update to the app? Man I hope so.


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I think I've found a bit of info on my above question on why the iOS version at least is so bad. Sorry if it's covered in here already.. Apparently Sony is transitioning SongPal to an app called "Music Center".. You android guys have it already. iOS won't get it until May 2017 at the earliest.

Would love to know if you guys running Android have a pretty good app as far as solid connectivity, function and player section with the Music Center version. That'll be roughly what's coming to iOS as well. May sway me on the next phone swap.

iOS version: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/song...724406878?mt=8

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I think I've found a bit of info on my above question on why the iOS version at least is so bad. Sorry if it's covered in here already.. Apparently Sony is transitioning SongPal to an app called "Music Center".. You android guys have it already. iOS won't get it until May 2017 at the earliest.

Would love to know if you guys running Android have a pretty good app as far as solid connectivity, function and player section with the Music Center version. That'll be roughly what's coming to iOS as well. May sway me on the next phone swap.

iOS version: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/song...724406878?mt=8

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....songpal&hl=en
I'd love to be able to answer this, but the app is unusable without having the unit to connect to.
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I'd love to be able to answer this, but the app is unusable without having the unit to connect to.
Yeah I figured someone with an actual GS9 head unit might chime in on it.

I did confirm at least from USB, no gapless playback.. There is a very brief split second pause between tracks. Unfortunate. Possibly someone's contacted Sony on this if it might be firmware-improved.

Not to gripe to much.. The SQ out of this thing well overcomes it's UI flaws IMHO for my purposes. In sheer output sound-quality is, and build-quality appears to be both stellar.

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The two major gripes are:

No native support of gapless playback

No fast forward within a track.


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sounds like it's perfect! Gapless annoys me, My Onkyo portlable DAP is doing gapless on almost every track that's dsf and it kinds bugs me.....

I have no need to ever fast forward or reverse in the middle of a song. Skip or Next is about the only function I need to work 100%.
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Haven't tested for gapless specifically via "iPod" hookup wired with the phone using the Onk player. Onkyo HF Player certainly does FF/RW from slider.. Took me a bit to find it.. Tap on the album art and it appears during play. Don't know if I have any tunes on the actual phone gapless from one track to another with actual music continuation track-track. hmm

The player portion of SongPal iOS I don't mind reporting is poor enough to forego running from USB just to avoid it.

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sounds like it's perfect! Gapless annoys me, My Onkyo portlable DAP is doing gapless on almost every track that's dsf and it kinds bugs me.....



I have no need to ever fast forward or reverse in the middle of a song. Skip or Next is about the only function I need to work 100%.


Gapless is an essential feature for any media player. It's the only way you can play live albums, classical, opera, or any electronic mixed albums properly.

CD players have had gapless playback since the beginning. It's mind blowing that players would be introduced in this age without it.


The only workaround for gapless playback albums when your player does not support the feature is to rip your gapless albums as a single, long track. But then you might have a use for FF within a track since you'll longer have track advance as an option.


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I think I've found a bit of info on my above question on why the iOS version at least is so bad. Sorry if it's covered in here already.. Apparently Sony is transitioning SongPal to an app called "Music Center".. You android guys have it already. iOS won't get it until May 2017 at the earliest.

Would love to know if you guys running Android have a pretty good app as far as solid connectivity, function and player section with the Music Center version. That'll be roughly what's coming to iOS as well. May sway me on the next phone swap.

iOS version: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/song...724406878?mt=8

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....songpal&hl=en
Songpal was updated on iOS on March 14th. I honestly don't see much that changed but I don't really mess around in it too much.

When I get in the car I unlock my phone start the car and wait for Bluetooth to connect and pop up the Songpal alert on my phone. I choose allow then go into the "Music" section of the app and it opens up the Music app on the phone and I browse around from there. I've tried connecting from USB a few times but my phone and or Lightning cable is due to be replace and it sometimes loses connection if the phone moves around too much.
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So on the question of whether this app transition to Music Center name change will make any significant improvements to SongPal, I asked the question on the Sony board.. Maybe some positive response / info will come of it:

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forget the song pal app.

get a win 10 tablet, load it up w/ dsd files, and use any ole windows high res player.

split the win 10 tablet's USB output (mini hub) to both the sony and the helix, thus enabling dsd playback and simultaneous tuning via the single tablet.

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forget the song pal app.

get a win 10 tablet, load it up w/ dsd files, and use any ole windows high res player.

split the win 10 tablet's USB output (mini hub) to both the sony and the helix, thus enabling dsd playback and simultaneous tuning via the single tablet.
No kidding? Hmm there's an idea.. Tech that actually works. Wonder if there any reasonably sized (read as "not huge") Win10 tablets out there that would do the job well and not be a massive thing in dash.

But yeah, I pretty much just use the media on the iPhone 6 via Onkyo HF Player.. Haven't tried high-res or DSD with that yet. Meant to play with that but was working on the car this weekend and didn't get much PC time for that, plus getting demo disk/usb's together.

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Yeah SongPal sucks. Onkyo player is the way to go, at least until Sony improves the software.


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Does the Sony do audio in thru any of the Usb? Since I can't seem to sell this other CarPC I'm considering using it to control the Sony.
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That'd be cool.. The USB ports are designed for either device (phones, ipods etc) or straight USB stick. I suppose you could do that maybe.

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That'd be cool.. The USB ports are designed for either device (phones, ipods etc) or straight USB stick. I suppose you could do that maybe.
The more I think about the idea, it sounds like extreme overkill, using the Sony as basically just a dac. Back to the drawing board.
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The more I think about the idea, it sounds like extreme overkill, using the Sony as basically just a dac. Back to the drawing board.


Off topic but Helix DSP with HEC USB input maybe. Feed directly from car pc.


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No kidding? Hmm there's an idea.. Tech that actually works. Wonder if there any reasonably sized (read as "not huge") Win10 tablets out there that would do the job well and not be a massive thing in dash.

But yeah, I pretty much just use the media on the iPhone 6 via Onkyo HF Player.. Haven't tried high-res or DSD with that yet. Meant to play with that but was working on the car this weekend and didn't get much PC time for that, plus getting demo disk/usb's together.
Pickings have become pretty slim for compact (<10") Windows tablets. I believe Dell and HP both used to have offerings that you could find pretty cheap. Now it seems like you either pick up a discontinued Win 8 Dell Venue or Asus Vivotab, or go with a NuVision tablet if you want Windows 10.

I've not used any of them, but was keeping an eye on Windows tablets for similar reasons.


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