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Will pitch in from the industrial designer point of view: thing looks great, I bet it feels as good as it looks, but man, couldn't they put input on the back? They ruin the look as is, let alone when cable(s) will be sticking out front.
Are all the input connectors on the front?

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Its not what Sony is selling in Wal Mart for 399.00 that is driving Sony sales and profits.
Ain't that the truth. Its not what Sony is selling in any form of electronics that is driving sales and profits.

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Are all the input connectors on the front?
Nope.. USB2 on the back. USB1 and USB-DAC are on the front.

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With me, the screen is a major player in my decision, I can't stand single line displays that have to scroll for days to display the Artist/Ablum/Track/folder/etc etc. So unless they offer a larger multi-line display in the future, I'd never consider the HU, no matter how well it performs.

Granted I'm a poor broke fool who can't justify $1K+ HU's, but still. I'd have never bought an Alpine CDA-9815, CDA-9833, CDA-117, Sony DSX-S200X (I know, not as good as the previous HUs, but I actually like it MUCH better than the CDA-117 it replaced), or Pioneer DEH-80PRS if they had such lousy screens as this "high-end" Sony.
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if it control a cd changer and had optical input to receive the signal from it, it'd be an amazing versital headunit.

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if it control a cd changer and had optical input to receive the signal from it, it'd be an amazing versital headunit.
There are still CD changers out there? Retro!

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With me, the screen is a major player in my decision, I can't stand single line displays that have to scroll for days to display the Artist/Ablum/Track/folder/etc etc. So unless they offer a larger multi-line display in the future, I'd never consider the HU, no matter how well it performs.
This thing is designed for device UI.. So your screen can be 3, 4, 5, 6" touchscreen. Trick is some ingenuity in simply mounting the device.. Having this for my iPhone I'd rock an iPad mini (or similarly sized mini tablet) on two nite-ize steelie mounts in about any car, if I couldn't come up with something better.

But there's the paradox of this thing.. Antiquated.. If I'm already using a mini iPad or similar, hell might as well just do a tablet dash install direct to DSP digital, abandon "head units" altogether, and call it done. It's already the phone device. It's already a media source 'switch'.

Bam!

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Now that's a nice install - sleek!

What processor are you feeding? And does it accept native DSD?
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This thing is designed for device UI.. So your screen can be 3, 4, 5, 6" touchscreen. Trick is some ingenuity in simply mounting the device.. Having this for my iPhone I'd rock an iPad mini (or similarly sized mini tablet) on two nite-ize steelie mounts in about any car, if I couldn't come up with something better.

But there's the paradox of this thing.. Antiquated.. If I'm already using a mini iPad or similar, hell might as well just do a tablet dash install direct to DSP digital, abandon "head units" altogether, and call it done. It's already the phone device. It's already a media source 'switch'.

Bam!
I think you summed it up perfectly. If you are going to add a second device, like an ipad, for the display, there are other ways of doing it that would avoid an unnecessary $1,500 head unit. Might as well go straight to a DSP.

This Sony might have amazing sonics, but it just isn't going to cut it as far as I'm concerned. If they want these high end units to sell, they need to make them a bit more...accessible. If it only appeals to 9 people (like this new RSX-GS9) it will die in a few years. Look at how well rounded the P99 is, it's already discontinued. A unit as specialized as this Sony will last half as long on the market as the P99. I mean, if the brilliant P99 wasn't appealing enough to keep it going, how can this Sony work? The P99 isn't even common here, among dedicated hobbyists, let alone in the general public. This Sony is more expensive and even more limited. How they hell does Sony think this is going to end?

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I mean, if the brilliant P99 wasn't appealing enough to keep it going, how can this Sony work? The P99 isn't even common here, among dedicated hobbyists, let alone in the general public.

Interesting though several of the better cars at the NCSQ meet were rockin a 99RS. I might need to stash one just because they're going away. End of an era. Dang they sound good.



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For that kind of money I'll stick with my p99rs.
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I see Matt Roberts heavily modifying one of the in the future.
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I still don't get it. A mechless deck touting high fidelity but offers fairly primitive contour controls which anyone in the hobby & business knows is the backbone of a good car audio system. Then offers an amp in the series that offers no furthering in at least the xover capabilities. Ummm... yeah. This is all too reminiscent of past Sony proprietary fails.

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I still don't get it. A mechless deck touting high fidelity but offers fairly primitive contour controls which anyone in the hobby & business knows is the backbone of a good car audio system. Then offers an amp in the series that offers no furthering in at least the xover capabilities. Ummm... yeah. This is all too reminiscent of past Sony proprietary fails.
I'm assuming they're just hinging on the high def audio format.

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My question is: Any Apps for Expansion?
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I see Matt Roberts heavily modifying one of the in the future.
I don't know if this one needs mods... otherwise I would endorse and finance such an endeavor...

People are way too hung up on the display. Just fill a flash drive with high bitrate music, plug it in and press play. Seems like a simple enough concept.

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Sony doesn't need to make this appeal to the masses.. Not any more than the $1200 DSD Walkman, or the $8000 XES-Z50 HU from back in the day:

(my personal unit, took me about 15+ years to finally find a XES setup at a livealbe price point)

They're not making this to start a DSD revolution in car audio, but it's nice to see them step back into higher end car audio after 10+ years of xplod crap (compared to what they used to make).
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People are way too hung up on the display. Just fill a flash drive with high bitrate music, plug it in and press play. Seems like a simple enough concept.
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I'm assuming they're just hinging on the high def audio format.

Then the least they could do is have the headunit not include any processing since most who buy it will more than likely resort to an external processor.

It's like in my situation... having started out with the 80prs, then going on to add a Helix since the 80 can not do exactly what I needed. Had a done a DSP to begin with, I probably wouldn't have used the 80 since it becomes rather redundant at that point despite the claims of how clean it plays.

But time will tell for Sony if this was a good move. We all can speculate based off of past ventures, and it may be so. I just hate to see them lose their ass on this one and avoid anything else that would appear attractive to the SQ hobby.

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Then the least they could do is have the headunit not include any processing since most who buy it will more than likely resort to an external processor.



It's like in my situation... having started out with the 80prs, then going on to add a Helix since the 80 can not do exactly what I needed. Had a done a DSP to begin with, I probably wouldn't have used the 80 since it becomes rather redundant at that point despite the claims of how clean it plays.



But time will tell for Sony if this was a good move. We all can speculate based off of past ventures, and it may be so. I just hate to see them lose their ass on this one and avoid anything else that would appear attractive to the SQ hobby.

Well some will use it in a simple conventional setup as Sony markets it, and surely the internal crossovers are defeat able and nothing terribly extensive so it's less of an unused tool than say running an 80PRS or 99RS into external DSP.


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The 99rs is a different beast altogether though. I'm often tempted to get one and use it as intended. Personally, I wouldn't dare add a dsp to it. The 80 just misses the mark on 4-way, but the low cost makes justification easier to swallow.. The Sony.... well.... LOL

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I'll say this, it's a really expensive digital transport solution...

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Default Re: New Sony RSX-GS9

Also, if you already have a helix i wouldn't go with a P99. It's way more limited in tuning capabilities.

It's really pretty though.

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Also, if you already have a helix i wouldn't go with a P99. It's way more limited in tuning capabilities.

It's really pretty though.
The P99 was a standalone consideration for a secondary vehicle. The Helix is in my daily driver.

05 Taco- 80prs//Helix DSP//PDX F4 >> Titan 8"/ PDX V9 >> ND20FA-6, SB65WBAC25-4, RSS265HO-4
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