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Anyone using this deck? If so, with a processor?
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Greetings!

This unit is not for everyone. I have had a Beta unit in my truck for over two months. I had to send that one back as the evaluation period was over and the launch of the unit was taking place. Am I putting another one back in my system? Bet your ass I am!

Agreed, its not for everyone. It is not designed for the masses. It is designed for the people who want the best possible playback of digital audio in their cars. In other words folks, its all about the music!

Having the ability to decode any file,( be it FLAC, AIFF, etc..). is huge for a lot of people. The unit can play standard rebook files up to the highest resolution (16/44.1; 96/24; 88.2/24; 172/24; 192/24; DSD). Since the home audiophiles have embraced computer audio and Sony has been doing a fantastic job creating pre amp/DAC's, it was only a matter of time for Sony to create one of these for the car.

That is the reason why this unit was created folks. The ultra high end in home audio is where the money is at. Its not what Sony is selling in Wal Mart for 399.00 that is driving Sony sales and profits. Sony is not the only one doing this. Most of the high end and upper mid fi companies are making these units. The future of high end audio is in this area and Sony has been leading the parade. When Sony decided to release their DSD catalog to everyone for download, it opened the door for any company to include and license DSD decoding from Sony. That has occurred and the format is doing well and growing. Recently, I had the opportunity to take to several recording engineers who work with mainstream artists. They told me that they are adopting DSD in the studio as one of the formats they will be using from here on. Way better resolution, closer to the original as they have heard!
Thats what DSD does and that is why this unit was built. Its the future in their minds.

I know its not coming out of my system! I think its the future and its the closest thing to vinyl in my truck i have heard!

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Thanks Nick for your mini review - I am going to get one - regardless of the "aesthetic" annoyances - if it sounds good that's all that counts - besides I don't use CD's much anymore all my music is ripped Lossless on my iPhone...

Tell me did you connect it up via a DSP? Did you use RCA or the optical output?

Please go a bit further into your setup for us.. It would be really helpful.


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I am also very curious about using the Sony with DSD and 24/192 music and going into a DSP. I planned on going analog out of the Sony (thus utilizing the ESS DAC), into either the Helix or ARC. My concern is if there will be reduction of resolution with the processor does the A/D, D/A conversion. I have asked many, cannot get a solid answer. I guess it depends on the chip limitations of the processor.
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My experience with the Mosconi processor has been extremely positive with the Sony. Going analog out of he Sony into the analog section of the 6 to 8 V8 works very well!

Is it as good as coming straight out of the Sony? No. I've bypassed the processor and there is a noticable difference in resolution. However, when driving down the highway I don't notice it due to the road noise. Is resolution better? Yes, even driving at 75 mph I can hear a difference. Higher resolution files obviously have a higher SNR and it is very apparent going through the processor.

The limitation is the processor and it's pre amp section, but even so, there is a huge difference in overall SQ using the Sony.

In August the new 8 to 12 dsp from Mosconi will be arriving and with SNR of 125 db and stereo separation of 115 db utilizing a 24/192 DAC, we should see a higher resolution than what we are seeing now with the 6 to 8. Can't wait!
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Just to comfirm, the EQ on this unit is just a single global EQ correct? Meaning there's no left/right separate EQ's?


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I think this unit will be better in about a year or two when hi-Res catches on more with the DSP makers... 24/192 will be a minimum - your start seeing 32bit resolution coming out


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One of these just popped up in the classifieds and is brand new for a great price. So tempting...

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Greetings!

My experience with the Mosconi processor has been extremely positive with the Sony. Going analog out of he Sony into the analog section of the 6 to 8 V8 works very well!

Is it as good as coming straight out of the Sony? No. I've bypassed the processor and there is a noticable difference in resolution. However, when driving down the highway I don't notice it due to the road noise. Is resolution better? Yes, even driving at 75 mph I can hear a difference. Higher resolution files obviously have a higher SNR and it is very apparent going through the processor.

The limitation is the processor and it's pre amp section, but even so, there is a huge difference in overall SQ using the Sony.

In August the new 8 to 12 dsp from Mosconi will be arriving and with SNR of 125 db and stereo separation of 115 db utilizing a 24/192 DAC, we should see a higher resolution than what we are seeing now with the 6 to 8. Can't wait!
Hello finally install the HU Sony RSX-GS9 in my Mazda 6 and can conclude that it is the best head unit I've had, the change to use CD to USB was difficult for me but the daily use made will adapt me fast, the sound is much better than my previous Alpine N957HD, the use with the Sony app (SongPal) is very intuitive, Nick listening to the unit in the finals of Alabama in your Chevy made the want in my car, the analog or digital use are very good (I accompany with a DSP Mosconi 6to8V8), I hope soon to do a full review of the Sony head unit.

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Hello finally install the HU Sony RSX-GS9 in my Mazda 6 and can conclude that it is the best head unit I've had, the change to use CD to USB was difficult for me but the daily use made will adapt me fast, the sound is much better than my previous Alpine N957HD, the use with the Sony app (SongPal) is very intuitive, Nick listening to the unit in the finals of Alabama in your Chevy made the want in my car, the analog or digital use are very good (I accompany with a DSP Mosconi 6to8V8), I hope soon to do a full review of the Sony head unit.

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Actually use both but digital for my is better but on digital i can't use the head unit volume knob, analogue its very good too. For the daily use i prefer analogue and for demo sessions i prefer digital.

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I noticed that the Sony GS9 also has an AUX2 input for high level signals.

The manual shows the high level connection, but it does not say how you select that source for listening on the head unit.


Does anyone know if the source must be selected manually by pressing a button, or can the source selection be done automatically by signal detection?


I am asking because it might be nice to have my car's factory navigation voice play over the Sony and therefore over my main speakers. But this would only be practical if the high level input could be automatically detected and switched.

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I noticed that the Sony GS9 also has an AUX2 input for high level signals.



The manual shows the high level connection, but it does not say how you select that source for listening on the head unit.





Does anyone know if the source must be selected manually by pressing a button, or can the source selection be done automatically by signal detection?





I am asking because it might be nice to have my car's factory navigation voice play over the Sony and therefore over my main speakers. But this would only be practical if the high level input could be automatically detected and switched.


I believe my buddy has his setup like this. I believe its automatic detection but could be wrong. He gots off work at 6, I will check with him then and let u know.


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I believe my buddy has his setup like this. I believe its automatic detection but could be wrong. He gots off work at 6, I will check with him then and let u know.


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Sweet...


Basically, what I am after is being able to listen to hi res music on a USB stick, but then the Navigation voice kicks in and mutes the music, gives me the instructions, and then lets the music start up again.

Also, it might let me keep the bluetooth phone connection with the car instead of using the bluetooth mic on the GS9 itself. Bluetooth on the car is better because of the video screen to show the info.

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Sweet...


Basically, what I am after is being able to listen to hi res music on a USB stick, but then the Navigation voice kicks in and mutes the music, gives me the instructions, and then lets the music start up again.

Also, it might let me keep the bluetooth phone connection with the car instead of using the bluetooth mic on the GS9 itself. Bluetooth on the car is better because of the video screen to show the info.


I will surely let u know what i find out


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I'm sure this is in the manual somewhere but it's not jumping out at me...

Can someone tell me the following regarding the DSP section of this headunit:
What are the T/A adjustments in (0.02ms, etc)?
How much delay (in ms or distance units) be applied?
How does the 10 bands of EQ get applied? Are they parametric or graphic? How adjustable (Q and level) are the bands, or are they fixed?
Are there any level adjustments besides the standard balance/fade?

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I'm sure this is in the manual somewhere but it's not jumping out at me...

Can someone tell me the following regarding the DSP section of this headunit:
What are the T/A adjustments in (0.02ms, etc)?
How much delay (in ms or distance units) be applied?
How does the 10 bands of EQ get applied? Are they parametric or graphic? How adjustable (Q and level) are the bands, or are they fixed?
Are there any level adjustments besides the standard balance/fade?

Thanks in advance.
The manual is actually quite worthless. Does not cover any of the sections in any detail.

The delay limits are 0 - 350 cm.

It only says there is an EQ10 Preset with 10 slots available. Says nothing about how many bands or whether it's GEQ or PEQ.

There is a picture of the EQ from the iPhone app that shows a 10 band GEW with +/- 6dB gain sliders. Frequencies appear fixed.

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The manual is actually quite worthless. Does not cover any of the sections in any detail.

The delay limits are 0 - 350 cm.

It only says there is an EQ10 Preset with 10 slots available. Says nothing about how many bands or whether it's GEQ or PEQ.
yea, that's what I found. I thought maybe I was missing something. but I figured not...

hopefully someone who owns this can answer these questions.

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yea, that's what I found. I thought maybe I was missing something. but I figured not...

hopefully someone who owns this can answer these questions.

My impression is that if anyone is thinking this deck will replace a DSP, they will be disappointed.

Use it for what it's worth.... a great source.

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Oh, I know that. But I still have questions and a purpose for those questions.

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Damn, this guy just put two brand new RSX-GS9 up in the classifieds for $1,000 each.

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Well, since I had curiosities about this I decided to buy it and try it out. Been talking about it a good bit over on CAJ so if you want to keep up with my thoughts go start here:
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I read your question about the micro usb on the front of the Sony on the other thread. It is for any DSD files larger than the 2.8Mhz/64fs. You can play the 2.8's through the USB2 if you have them loaded on a flash drive, but you need the front DAC to play the 5.6Mhz/128fs.

I have played the 2.8s through both ports, I can't say I can hear a difference. When you play it through the micro port, the DSD functionality in the advance sound settings of the app become active. I do not have any 5.6 music so I am not sure how those sound. Hard to imagine the quality getting any better!

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