I like Butler but, I don't know how they would react to the harsh vibrations found in the automotive environment over time. But, I do love me some tubes!
You might need a lot of power but it might be worth it. Linear power seem to have come back from the dead (in the car audio show, competitions). They competed in the USACI World Finals and did pretty good. Keep in mind that others in the competition use new equipment thats probably way more expensive than Linear Power is.
John Neal - World Champion for Mod Q
Richard Nye - Region 6 overall and World SQ Point Champion
Randal Johnson - Region 2 SQ Point Champion
Herman Smith - World Champion for Intro SQ+
TJ Lacharite - Third place in Super Mod SQ+ and third place in Open SPL
These are 15-20 year old amps they were using. And the new line of the so "debated" Blues Car Audio speakers/drivers. So just by seeing the results I know they will come back to the marketing (as of next year).
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I think a lot of it has to do with what you have heard, I voted for what I have heard and they have all sounded great. I guess you would have to demo all the amps on the same source/speakers/power to really get an A/B comparison and on top of that aural memory is short so by the time you swapped out the amps you really dont remember what you just heard LOL, so its all pretty subjective.
Needless to say though if you had any of those amps and some that others have posted on here, you'd be very happy!
They competed in the USACI World Finals and did pretty good.
Have you ever seen a USACi judge? Unfortunately, I have... Let's put it like this, they were allowing Legal SPL Dash scores by letting the competitor place the microphone ANYWHERE they wanted to in the car. The trunk guys were putting the TL in the port of their enclosures in the trunk.
When I questioned the judge on the "Legal SPL Dash" score and said it should be dash according to THEIR rules, he said "It doesn't matter!"
Seeing how haphazardly they judge Legal SPL, with SPL being their specialty, I take even less merit in their ability to judge Sound Quality.
2012 Subaru WRX - JL Audio C5-650s run active off a Lunar L450; Digital Designs 1508 powered by a Lunar L1500; Pioneer DEH-80PRS as the source unit.
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Reason: Correct my terminology
I've heard some "high end" amps in my time, and even owned several, but nothing beats the lowly Pioneer amps I use now. Laugh if you must, but they're clean, musical, and have a damn good build quality! I've never had the same listening enjoyment when I had so-called "audiophile" amps. My days of buying $1000+ amps are over.
I have to go with the Arc Audio SE (signature edition), but they are the only high-end amps I've auditioned unless the Steg K serie are considered high-end.
For look the TRU Billet with its TO-3 is hard to beat IMO, but the Helix competition serie are pretty sweet too.
Are the DLS amps in the same class as the others in the poll? Dunno, myself, as I've never heard them, but if they are, they'd win the value-category contest, no?
Personally, I agree with mooble; ideally, and amp accepts inputs and has outputs - it amplifies sound and nothing less...let the other pieces of the system do their jobs, alone. No sound modification at the amplifier level.
"Amp, impart no sound-changing affect - just give us lots of power, headroom and zero noise...."
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Best amp I have owned (except my old brax
I have owned SEVERAL of the ones listed here, this SS HRU is my favorite thus far and is reasonably priced comparatively speaking
The DLS Ultimate amps are great and solid for sure but they are seriously in need for an update. They have been around for so long - 2000-2001 I believe.
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I'll repeat it for the miliionth time : All amps do NOT sound the same ... It's astonishing to me that nobody understands this
There is a certain brand of old school amplifiers regarded as the holy grail of Ess Que amplifiers and their loosely wrapped transformers WILL make more noise than one's fuel pump! I still remember that first time I heard a squeal in the vehicle thinking it coming from the subwoofer. After getting the amplifier on the bench, I realize the squeal was coming from inside the heat sink. I should have made a video of it because the naysayers accused me of making it up while labeling me as a "hater".
I had brand new DPS 200 with a constant squeal in the heat sink. P.O.S.
Im running a Brax X1000 on mids/highs and going to replace my subamp with an X2000 once it gets repaired. I noticed a difference between the Brax and US AMPS old school that I used to run. There is more depth to the music with the Brax. You can hear things that you cant on the US AMPS. While the US AMPS sounded amazing, the Brax is noticeably better at playing mids and highs being more accurate.
Anyone compare Brax, specifically Brax, to other brands?
Stupid question, but how does an amp qualify as a SQ amp?
The amps specs? How the amp sounds when compared to a range of other defined SQ amps?? Or something else?