How did that end up in this thread? As long as your on the subject tho, does anyone understand why exactly there is a minimum post rule on here before you can list stuff for sale??? Only forum I've ever been a member of that's like that, and I just dont understand what they gain by that rule...
They gain not having people join and flooding the board with stuff for sale taking peoples money and dissapearing.
Scammers are much less likely to stick around if they have to be here long enough to have 50 posts before running their scams dont you think ?
If you want to read more about it heres a three page thread on the subject . 50 posts to make a thread in classifieds section needs to be changed
Isn't that why Paypal was invented? I've bought a lot of softball bats off of Craigslist and been scammed many times, but never has someone been able to run off with my money. They simply have to pay it back...
Isn't that why Paypal was invented? I've bought a lot of softball bats off of Craigslist and been scammed many times, but never has someone been able to run off with my money. They simply have to pay it back...
Paypal unfortunately is not the end all be all of safety they want you to believe. I recently bought a set of chris king/mavic wheel sets for my MTB on ebay. Theses would cost about 800 to build from scratch. Won the auction for 350 ish + shipping and the seller sent them to me USPS space available w/tracking.
Being that I am on a military base overseas this means that the shipping time via USPS in a space A category will take months. By the time they arrive, my ability to file a complaint against the seller is zero. Paypal says that as they have been accepted by the USPS and there is tracking that I cannot file a complaint unless they do not arrive, or are not as advertised. Catch 22 is that they will arrive well after the 45 day mark stipulated by paypal. So I cannot file a complaint.
End result is that they could be damaged, or he might have shipped some POS junk from a department store bike just to make it look correct and I am out 350 + shipping. So FWIW a 50 post count, or paying a membership is worthwhile I think.
Paypal has helped me in the past but it certainly isnt foolproof. I just recently had someone claim to have not received their item after 5 weeks. Lucky for me I kept all the paperwork.
What scares me about paypal is what if someone sends you a box of rocks ? Prove otherwise lol Seller will have proof of delivery and thats all he needs as far as paypal is concerned.
I personally would much rather judge a deal by a persons actions on this forum .
Paypal has helped me in the past but it certainly isnt foolproof. I just recently had someone claim to have not received their item after 5 weeks. Lucky for me I kept all the paperwork.
What scares me about paypal is what if someone sends you a box of rocks ? Prove otherwise lol Seller will have proof of delivery and thats all he needs as far as paypal is concerned.
I personally would much rather judge a deal by a persons actions on this forum .
Exactly, had that happen with a turbocharger I bought off of some clown on the RX-7 forum. He packed a box with some books, and wrapped them in old clothes and shit, it weighed enough, and was about the right size.
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to the OP......Sorry for the thread Jack.
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Well I just checked out they're website and without a reputation similar to Sinfoni, they're going to have to put a lot more detailed specs and info on exactly how they're amps are made before I would spend money on one of they're amps for all out sq without a budget in mind. Just saying >90 db for SNR for example just isn't going to cut it without a reputation for actual numbers to be more like 120 at least...
Well I just checked out they're website and without a reputation similar to Sinfoni, they're going to have to put a lot more detailed specs and info on exactly how they're amps are made before I would spend money on one of they're amps for all out sq without a budget in mind. Just saying >90 db for SNR for example just isn't going to cut it without a reputation for actual numbers to be more like 120 at least...
Mc Intosh still makes a quality product...never had a single issue with one. Monk did you mean the sundowns are greater than 120 or were you asking if there are amps that actually test out greater than 120 db?
yeah i dont get what he is saying. Also how good are the sinfoni amps? How do you check the sq of the amp? what number and spec are posted on the amp that shows how good amp they are?
Well that's the hard part....there is no way to know exactly how good an amp is made...Specs can give you an idea, but without reading where ppl you trust have actually tested an amp, or knowing the build quality of one its all just a guess. Like I said before, reputation counts for a lot, and some companies know that is better than measuring specs, so they don't print the specs of they're amps. Basically tho, THD needs to be measured across the entire hearable bandwidth instead of just a number that says it was simply tested below .1 mhz I believe is the common number many companies measure at. After that, SNR and channel separation are the common numbers looked at. Basically, you don't want to spend a bunch of money on a HU that's carepable of an SNR greater than 120 and channel separation above 80 and then go out and buy an amp that can't keep the signal as clean as the HU after its amplified. After all that you just want an amp that can amplify the signal as clear as possible without adding its own coloration, and then it just needs to be well built so it doesn't tear up within a year. What makes it so difficult with any aspect of car audio is many many companies publish sq numbers that are a total lie because there's really nothing much that has ever been done to a company who lies about they're specs. Also, lots of car audio companies pop up for a relatively short period of time, lie about they're specs and make a quick fortune off the profits.
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