They went on the dash for a year or so. I just finished my kickpanels for them today. The dash location was too sensitive to reflections from the side windows and I'm trying to get more coherence with my other speakers. The LCYs never really blended in, they sound too different from other speakers, like the total opposite of soft domes. Maybe kicks will help. Stay tuned.
That's very close to how I've mounted mine. Height is perfect. I like the mid off axis like that, keeps the 1-5k range from being too in your face. Yet with the tweet on axis, all of the detail remains.
Damn, those Alfa interiors are soooo nice!
Safe to say kicks helped! Ribbons blend in perfectly, staging is nearly perfect and eye level. I had two unexperienced listeners claim I have speakers in the pillars or on the dash soo I'll say that's darn good proof for a high stage
BTW don't like the way those Hertz mids are mounted in the pillar, that's the worst spot I could ever find for my Neo 8. Reflections will eat your soul, the guy better have some heavy duty RTA at his disposal. I do like the one on the dash facing the windshield, that gives good results in any setup I've heard.
Generally speaking, planars have a much different sound to my ears than pure ribbons. Less refined, with significantly poorer horizontal dispersion.
I would also never mount a ribbon that close to my head, or on it's side. I agree with Cvjoint that kicks are the ideal place for them in a car, as these are not traditional point source drivers.
A speaker is only as good as the room you put it in.
That's very close to how I've mounted mine. Height is perfect. I like the mid off axis like that, keeps the 1-5k range from being too in your face. Yet with the tweet on axis, all of the detail remains.
Damn, those Alfa interiors are soooo nice!
idk. i thought planers/ribbons need a lot of natural paths
BTW don't like the way those Hertz mids are mounted in the pillar, that's the worst spot I could ever find for my Neo 8. Reflections will eat your soul, the guy better have some heavy duty RTA at his disposal. I do like the one on the dash facing the windshield, that gives good results in any setup I've heard.
That's funny, my experience was exactly the opposite. Facing the windshield sounded harsh and shouty, and the off axis a-pillar position relieved most of that. No doubt reflection issues were still there, but some careful eq work balanced it all out nicely.
That said, I too found kicks to be the easiest to work with and depth and width was amazing with little effort. Not so practical in my car though, and I love the way the Neo3 and Neo8 sounds like one big driver when mounted very close together.
I take back what I've said about reflecting it off the glass completely. Thinking back I only heard conventional domes and mids in that position. That being said, the kicks still remain the best option for me.
Why can't you do kicks? I thought I couldn't possibly throw a single 1 inch tweeter in there. I now have an 8 inch mid, the Neo 8 and the Lcy 108 in there. Oh and I drive stick too.
I take back what I've said about reflecting it off the glass completely. Thinking back I only heard conventional domes and mids in that position. That being said, the kicks still remain the best option for me.
Why can't you do kicks? I thought I couldn't possibly throw a single 1 inch tweeter in there. I now have an 8 inch mid, the Neo 8 and the Lcy 108 in there. Oh and I drive stick too.
Sweet CV !!
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I'm a recent convert. Some photos of the LCY108 in my dash. Car is being designed as a two seater listener, and the sound is simply fantastic. Xover is 24dB @ 6.3kHz and up.
Can do with some more angle, but the window actually adds to the offaxis response extremely well.
Its all about the music. Always has been, always will be. Im here for the music.
has anyone here heard that a well know manufaturer of ribbon tweeters is actually coming out with a car audio speaker system?please let me have you feedback.thanks
I'm a recent convert. Some photos of the LCY108 in my dash. Car is being designed as a two seater listener, and the sound is simply fantastic. Xover is 24dB @ 6.3kHz and up.
Can do with some more angle, but the window actually adds to the offaxis response extremely well.
I take it you had to ditch the faceplate to fit them there? Looks nice.
Also, what are you using for upper midrange frequencies, and why did you end up crossing at 6.3khz? Thanks
i am using the component set from hustler and they are ribbon tweeters but very small in size comparing to the aurum cantus,the point is ribbon tweeters are really different,more live like...i enjoy it
question....i have heard npdang and others suggest that a sturdy baffle can improve tweeter performance. two alternate thoughts came to mind and i want to clear them up. i want to know if that suggestion is based on the idea that a tweeter, when mounted on a strong baffle, can better resist resonances from other speakers/panels, or that a tweeter can better resist resonance within itself (or both)?
i ask this because the idea of mounting a tweet right next to an 8" mid in the kickpanel, for example, sounds like an awfully vibration-prone region to choose, despite reinforcement and sound deadening efforts. this also makes me wonder if some of the reason why coaxial speakers are not as clear as comps is because the tweeter gets rattled like crazy by the mid.
i feel like a ribbon would be even more sensitive than a dome tweeter to resonance in the structure to which it is mounted....however that statement is not based on any evidence, just my gut feelings.
Lol, sorry guys, just recently saw this. We didnt ditch the faceplate, but did cut it up. The steel was perfect to brace the baffle that you see in the pictures. Given where it is located, and the thin nature of the baffle, if we didnt use the faceplate, it would be a bit too brittle and playing around with it may have broken it.
My mids at the moment are Dyn 140/2's, which sail up that high quite easily. I just received shipment of some Audiotechnology Cquenze 15G52's though, that will be replacing them.
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I take it you had to ditch the faceplate to fit them there? Looks nice.
Also, what are you using for upper midrange frequencies, and why did you end up crossing at 6.3khz? Thanks
The difference was immediate and noticeable, but given the high Xover point, it wasn't totally 'wow'. More along the lines of "hey, that's quite nice". After living with them for a few months now, I cant go back. Too good, too clean, too....right.
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Did you notice a slight difference or a WOW ?
These have some quality to them, a certain "Je ne sais quoi" !
Its all about the music. Always has been, always will be. Im here for the music.
Re: Using Ribbon tweeters in the car
two thumbs way up^^.
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