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Hey guys, great info here. Would the Mic Mate work with the mic from the Alpine PXH-100EQ imprint kit? The mic has an 1/8" plug.
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Hey guys, great info here. Would the Mic Mate work with the mic from the Alpine PXH-100EQ imprint kit? The mic has an 1/8" plug.
No.
The MicMate is to power "bigger" mics that need phantom power to operate.
You can plug that mic directly to the computer and it should work, but it would be better to have a "measurement mic" to get better results.
That's why the Behringer is used. It's "cheap" and works great.

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Thanks Jorge. I am sure I would need an external sound card then, as the sound chip in my laptop would probablt not be adequate. I think I read something about this here before but I cannot find it. What sort of sound card do you guys recommend?

BTW, I think it has been determined that the mic for the Alpine imprint kit is of relatively high quality, not sure though how it would compare to the Behringer.
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One of the advantages of the MicMate is that you plug the mic to the computer via USB, and that way you dont need and external soundcard.
If all goes well I will put the "$100 RTA" against a real one (Audiocontrol) and will post results here, to see how accurate it is.

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One of the advantages of the MicMate is that you plug the mic to the computer via USB, and that way you dont need and external soundcard.
If all goes well I will put the "$100 RTA" against a real one (Audiocontrol) and will post results here, to see how accurate it is.

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I'd love to see that if you get time to do it.

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I'd love to see that if you get time to do it.
It's a done deal.
The Audiocontro RTA should be here next week if all goes well.
I'll post results as soon as I have them.

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David's gonna let you touch the audio control he got from Kevin?

P9? 701? is the jury out?


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David's gonna let you touch the audio control he got from Kevin?

P9? 701? is the jury out?
Yes he is.
And also add a certain H900 to the list.
But don't spoil the surprise.
H701 vs H900 vs P9 thread also comming soon.

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Cool. HOpe it proves to be ultra accurate, as I have one of the pieces arriving today, and the other piece arriving Monday to use for my $110 RTA setup, unless you count the cost of TruRTA with 1/3 or 1/6 octave.
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david got a sweet deal on that rta. kevin keeps his stuff in prestine condition and takes very good care of his stuff

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Default Re: How to make your RTA with $100 dlls.

Did a little testing today with my setup connected to an IBM T60p thinkpad.

I had the Behringer ECM8000/MicMate combo (with a 15' Canare Mic cable) doing some RTA via TrueRTA. I then took some known good 0db test tones on my OTHER PC (desktop) and played them to see what the Behringer/MXL combo measured. No matter which tone I tried (between 20hz and 20khz), the corresponding peak on the RTA was identical to what was suspected. No shift at all.

Today I received an Onstage Kick Drum/Amp mic stand w/boom. This thing is the perfect height for what we're trying to do in my opinion. It'll easily sit in the back seat with the boom centering the microphone at ear level.

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Wish I had known to order an xlr mic cable, stand and usb cable. Got the mic mate and mic in hand, but didn't get any cables. Not sure if the mic mate should have come with one, but mine didn't. I'll have to go dig around in the garage for an unused printer cable when I get a chance, but want to also get an xlr mic cable and stand at some point to.
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Wish I had known to order an xlr mic cable, stand and usb cable. Got the mic mate and mic in hand, but didn't get any cables. Not sure if the mic mate should have come with one, but mine didn't. I'll have to go dig around in the garage for an unused printer cable when I get a chance, but want to also get an xlr mic cable and stand at some point to.
The Micmate connects to a PC via a standard sided USB cable. It doesn't come with one but these are the standard sized USB so I'm sure you have one lying around or can get one cheap at a computer store.

You do need an XLR cable though to plug your mic in. I don't think that was mentioned. Luckily I have some lying around. Your local Guitar Center or other music store will have some.

Incidentally, I ordered the Micmate and Behringer from Musican's Friend and got both for $49 each with free shipping. The Behringer is on back-order but I might just use one of my existing mics.
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The Micmate connects to a PC via a standard sided USB cable. It doesn't come with one but these are the standard sized USB so I'm sure you have one lying around or can get one cheap at a computer store.

You do need an XLR cable though to plug your mic in. I don't think that was mentioned. Luckily I have some lying around. Your local Guitar Center or other music store will have some.

Incidentally, I ordered the Micmate and Behringer from Musican's Friend and got both for $49 each with free shipping. The Behringer is on back-order but I might just use one of my existing mics.
Yeah, I'm sure I've got a spare cable too once I can put my hands on it. It's basically just a printer cable, with standard USB-A and USB-B ends, or whatever they call them.

The XLR is not absolutely required, as the mic mate can plug directly into the mic, but to get any cord length, to be able to test from outside the vehicle, it would be necessary, so I'll ahve to get a cord.

I got both of my pieces from ebay for $49 and $45, but with shipping the total was $110.
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Do you guys think it's worth the $100 to build your own RTA to tune your system even if you don't have all the processing power of say an H701 or similar? I have a CD7200mkII and will soon be running fully actively, but will it be worthwhile to buy an RTA system to tweak or is it not enough difference to care about?

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I have the True RTA $100 program calibrated mic and all that for near 2 years now and have never been able to make it work on my PC
Course I did not call tech support either.

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np, what weighting do you lean towards? B?
Professionally I always tune systems using an A weighting curve averaging 80-85dbSPL. In quiet to moderate environements the A weighting is similar to how we hear. As the SPL goes up the weighting shifts over to B then C. if you are tuning to a B or C curve it will be quite bass heavy because naturally we attenuate those frequencies at louder SPL's.
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I think it is worth it because you can at least find out where the issues are. If you have a good eq, you can even address the major problem areas as well.

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Do you guys think it's worth the $100 to build your own RTA to tune your system even if you don't have all the processing power of say an H701 or similar? I have a CD7200mkII and will soon be running fully actively, but will it be worthwhile to buy an RTA system to tweak or is it not enough difference to care about?
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It's a done deal.
The Audiocontro RTA should be here next week if all goes well.
I'll post results as soon as I have them.

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Did you get to compare it to the Audio Control?

Just wondering how it stands up to it. This Micmate sounds pretty cool. I may have to pick one up and run it against our AC RTA myself.

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Did you get to compare it to the Audio Control?

Just wondering how it stands up to it. This Micmate sounds pretty cool. I may have to pick one up and run it against our AC RTA myself.
Not yet.
If all goes well I should do it at the Dallas Meet on July 20th.
I'll post the results here.

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I compared my laptop setup to a "legitimate" RTA-in-one and got the same readings.

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Whats the RTA you compared yours to? Thats really great news!

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Whats the RTA you compared yours to? Thats really great news!
i really don't know. It's Kirk Proffit's. I saw it at night so never caught the name. He said he paid a couple hundred for it and that was a steal, so it's apparently a high-end RTA.

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i really don't know. It's Kirk Proffit's. I saw it at night so never caught the name. He said he paid a couple hundred for it and that was a steal, so it's apparently a high-end RTA.
Did it look something like this?

http://www.mobileaudiocontrol.com/pr...52&l1=5252&l2=

We have one of these and I will probably order the mic mate today so I will give them a test. I am curious myself.

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