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Did I say something wrong? If it was my reference to RS it was not intended to criticize their products. Only that they don't carry the cable. Maybe I'm the one who's unbalanced and should review the 'rules.'
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Many (most) here agree that a cable must have the physical attributes to make it noise free (free from microphonics in high impedance situations) But saying cable A of decent quality sounds different than cable B of higher price can cause an uproar at times

I think we can all agree that not many of us visit radio shack

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i wish i knew of a electronics supply around my area. i hate radio shack and Frys and i hate online ordering.
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i wish i knew of a electronics supply around my area. i hate radio shack and Frys and i hate online ordering.
Try Electronics City in Burbank. I believe they have a website as well.
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Would Home Depot/Lowes carry cable like that? What is the cable considered anyway? Audio cable?

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I had feeling my statement might stir the pot, being well aware of the discussion around cable quality. On the other hand, if you've ever used a studio microphone - not a stage model - and compared cables while recording digitally you will likely hear the difference. In other words, your cables, including those for the speakers, should match the quality of your components while you keep a skeptical eye out for manufacturer's hype. It seems to me that's why the popular car audio cable manufacturers offer three lines. Ferrari owners don't shop at Canadian Tire for their rubber.

Home Depot will not carry the cable. If there's no electronics outlet nearby try a major music store because many musicians make their own mic and guitar cables.

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I had feeling my statement might stir the pot, being well aware of the discussion around cable quality. On the other hand, if you've ever used a studio microphone - not a stage model - and compared cables while recording digitally you will likely hear the difference. In other words, your cables, including those for the speakers, should match the quality of your components while you keep a skeptical eye out for manufacturer's hype. It seems to me that's why the popular car audio cable manufacturers offer three lines. Ferrari owners don't shop at Canadian Tire for their rubber.
It's not so much that the cable quality might make a difference in sound reproduction. Whether it does or not I feel is totally dependent on the listener, since everyone's ears are different. The real question is can you hear the difference over all of the other noise present in a vehicle? A car is a far cry from a recording studio, and spending a crapload of money on patch cables usually doesn't gain you much. At least in my admittedly limited experience.

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We have over a million dollars of inventory of Neumann alone, vintage and new.... This number doesnot include the Schoeps, DPA, Sennheiser, etc. We use Canare, nothing esoteric, and have made well regarded world class recordings.

In fact we did play with cabling when auditioning mic preamps, we found the preamp we liked (Millennia HV3c that time) and compared Canare to a rather expensive snake oil cable.... no difference was heard from any of the engineers.

Take it as you may.

Dissect a studio monitor and tell me what kind of speaker wire they use inside.

Tannoy, JBL, Meyer, Genelec, others... NONE advertise the cable that their monitors are wired with internally.

I would also like to add the the Ferrari probably uses the same type of copper wire my Honda has for it's internal wiring, maybe even the same composition in the spark plug wires. Metallurgy wise, many of the same metals thru and thru.

Comparing tires on a car in terms of quality is the same as comparing speaker components BIG difference between Seas and Goldwood. Same with Farm and fleet tires VS high end Pirelli's. Wire is wire as long as it's of good build quality.

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My reference to the tires is called an analogy. Curious to know why you're critical of the wires in your speaker cabinets. Did you find something inferior about its' metallurgy? Still, I'm glad we all agree on Canare and the importance of scrutinizing the hype. If or when you get a Ferrari let us know where you buy your replacement tires.

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Umm, your analogy is just an analogy. Doesn't mean its right.

Chad brought up the point about the speaker cabinets because if you go open one up, what will you find? 100% pure silver braid in teflon tube? no, plain ole copper wire. you will find this in bust buy speakers and in audiophile grade. why? because apples to apples, wire is wire.
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Any difference between foil shielding and braid shielding?
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Foil is 100% but not durable, fine in a car though. Braided is designed to flex and hold up to abuse but not 100% coverage.

Willyou hear a difference? Probably not unless you toss it under a large radio transmitter. Will you notice a difference in your wallet? Yep! A high quality cable with foil shield is 1/3 the price of a high quality cable with braided. (Comparing Gepco 61801EZ to Canare and other star quads.)

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Curious to know why you're critical of the wires in your speaker cabinets. Did you find something inferior about its' metallurgy?
Nope, I said that because you are concerned with the speaker cable outside the cab.


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Still, I'm glad we all agree on Canare and the importance of scrutinizing the hype.
I think we are almost on the same page here, I don't consider Canare as an esoteric cable, it's a damn fine wrkhorse cable with great properties that allow easy winding, durability, and constructed in a way that inhibits self noise due to vibration.

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They consider this guitar cable. Don't you need two conductors for any signal wiring (RCA/guitar/etc)? There's only one. Is the shield used as ground?
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The 61801 is a dream to work with, just score the outer jacket, snap it in 2 directions and pull, the foil comes with and you are left with a red, black, and drain wire. Just good stuff. I use it in a transmitter shack with all the transmitters under 50KW FM bays and next to a 3KW AM skirt antenna and never have RFI issues.

Just use the shield as ground/drain on the gee-tar cable, that's how it's used That cable is good to use if it's quality guitar cable because in guitar situations you have to deal with the "microphonics" that I was talking about earlier. Guitar players will attest to the fact that in high gain situations the shittiness of a cable really shines when you wiggle it on the floor and you hear crackling sounds, the worst ones you can flick with your finger and it sounds like someone is knocking on a door

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But it's not advisable to do the same thing with RCAs? You want the separate signal, ground and shield?
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Hi guys,

Just been reading some of the DIY RCA Cable threads, and thought about making my own.

With regards the cable itself, I have got access to rather a large quantity of the following cable at work, and I was wondering if it would be suitable for making RCA's from.....

http://www.weisd.com/store2/BEL9269%20010U1000B.html

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Hi guys,

Just been reading some of the DIY RCA Cable threads, and thought about making my own.

With regards the cable itself, I have got access to rather a large quantity of the following cable at work, Belden 9269, and I was wondering if it would be suitable for making RCA's from?

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Just been reading some of the DIY RCA Cable threads, and thought about making my own.

With regards the cable itself, I have got access to rather a large quantity of the following cable at work, Belden 9269, and I was wondering if it would be suitable for making RCA's from?

Any thoughts?

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It wold work fine.... BTW.... What are you using 93 ohm cable at work for?

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Hi Chad,

Thanks for confirming that it will be ok to use

We use the 93 Ohm cable for networking some of the test equipment we use in our manufacturing facility. Apparently it's quite unique...

Saying that, I think we've got somewhere in the region of 20,000 feet of it in boxes in one of the store rooms, which hasn't been used for over 5 years !!

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I think it's safe to say that some of it won't be missed

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My thoughts precisely

Just need to find some nice connectors now, and get some cables made up.

Have found a supplier of braided sheathing, similair to Techflex, and heatshrink, so I'm sorted now.

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I'd like to know this as well. Is doubling up necessary?



Partsexpress has some decent looking ones in that price range.

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....up_ID=125&SO=2

These P3 ones look pretty good, $10 for 4 of them.

i'm still stuck on what RCA's to get.... my car stero is going to have around 30 RCA connections... and @ 2 bucks a piece...thats almost as much as I spent on the wire

anyone know of a good bulk offer or anything? I just cant see spending that much JUST on RCA CONNECTORS...
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i'm still stuck on what RCA's to get.... my car stero is going to have around 30 RCA connections... and @ 2 bucks a piece...thats almost as much as I spent on the wire

anyone know of a good bulk offer or anything? I just cant see spending that much JUST on RCA CONNECTORS...
Hot Deals link to Streetwires connectors on eBay. Still had some 2 days ago when I looked.

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i'm still stuck on what RCA's to get.... my car stero is going to have around 30 RCA connections... and @ 2 bucks a piece...thats almost as much as I spent on the wire

anyone know of a good bulk offer or anything? I just cant see spending that much JUST on RCA CONNECTORS...
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I just bought a 50 pack of these and I only need 20. I could send you the other 30 for $15 shipped.


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