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good idea, I have been debating on the JL set up.
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I've heard the JL set up before and loved it. Keep us updated!
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This is what I need to know! Looking forward to the review. I need 2 IB 8's in my rear deck, and have been looking at the JL's.
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This is what I need to know! Looking forward to the review. I need 2 IB 8's in my rear deck, and have been looking at the JL's.
you do realize he's running them as mids and not as subs

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sweet setup broski.
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Jl audio zr800 is better for low end sub extension. Hat l8se is better in high frecuencies. if you use the midbass from 40,60hz to 200hz at 12db or 24db i will recommend jl zr800. but if you extend from 250, 280,300hz the legatia works better, and is more easy to accommodate the next driver; the mid-high.

Jl audio zr800 is a heavy weight, from sub to woofer.
legatia l8se is a lightweight, from midbass to midrange.

Jl audio zr800 doesn't have to much definiton from 300hz and up but pounds harder and better in the low end. But putting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels. That doesn't happen with the legatia l8se in the same baffle.
So i notice that is more light. In my case i will choose the legatia because sound clear and doesn't vibrate to much. Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you imagine.100_0080.jpg

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...But getting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels.... Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you can imagine.
That is the same conclusion I came to when I compared the ZR800 to the Peerless SLS 8. For some cars, 8's in the door just does not work. Dedicated midbass like those just have so much kick that it is almost not worth the effort because the door will be making as much noise as the driver. There is a guy in my area that had the same type of car as mine and he had the HAT L8 in his door. He even went a step further and cut into the door skin and make nice rings using Corian. He used extra deadning everywhere....but the doors still had vibration issues. His install and my time playing with the SLS 8 and ZR800 convinced me that I would never put those drivers in the doors of my current car. Such long stroking clean and quiet drivers deserve a better enclosure than a rattling and buzzing door!

This Spring the plan is to try and get some midbasses in the kicks....but I will still be faced with many issues....Oh well....

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+1, Thanks for taking the time to try these and share your conclusions.
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Damn Reach this gives me second thougts on selling my ZR800's to you :-)

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Were the speakers broken in prior to testing?

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^this may get ugly.......

Team D.I.Y.M.A, Distortion produced by the driver or rattling stuff kills the illusion of bass up front If you had a low distortion subwoofer to begin with, you wouldn't need those extra midbass drivers.. A. Wehmeyer
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Were you using Class-A amplifiers? Was the damping factor > 1000? Was the distorition under .000001 %? Did you set the Kanuter valve correctly, and adjust the flux capacitor 3 more points?

Just kidding!

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Jl audio zr800 is better for low end sub extension. Hat l8se is better in high frecuencies. if you use the midbass from 40,60hz to 200hz at 12db or 24db i will recommend jl zr800. but if you extend from 250, 280,300hz the legatia works better, and is more easy to accommodate the next driver; the mid-high.

Jl audio zr800 is a heavy weight, from sub to woofer.
legatia l8se is a lightweight, from midbass to midrange.

Jl audio zr800 doesn't have to much definiton from 300hz and up but pounds harder and better in the low end. But putting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels. That doesn't happen with the legatia l8se in the same baffle.
So i notice that is more light. In my case i will choose the legatia because sound clear and doesn't vibrate to much. Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you imagine.Attachment 25249

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one of the worst cars to sound good ,toyota highlander 05 suv
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one of the worst cars to sound good ,toyota highlander 05 suv
Acoustics or just an obnoxious head unit situation?

You got a nice door at least....and my buddy has the hybrid version....dead silent at idle.
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acoustics and space. you cann't do kick panels sound good or floor installs. you
get to high seated and to close to the dash.
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So what if you're using the 8" up to 2khz? The JL sounds like crap?
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JL zr 800 isn't desing to play high-frec is only a midwoofer, but still one of the best compare to anothers that cost much more.
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