comparing mid-bass in free air. i will discover which one is the best in 3 way application with differents xovers and slopes settings. i know people out there like IB and free air stuff.morel 9 midbass 069.jpg
Jl audio zr800 is better for low end sub extension. Hat l8se is better in high frecuencies. if you use the midbass from 40,60hz to 200hz at 12db or 24db i will recommend jl zr800. but if you extend from 250, 280,300hz the legatia works better, and is more easy to accommodate the next driver; the mid-high.
Jl audio zr800 is a heavy weight, from sub to woofer.
legatia l8se is a lightweight, from midbass to midrange.
Jl audio zr800 doesn't have to much definiton from 300hz and up but pounds harder and better in the low end. But putting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels. That doesn't happen with the legatia l8se in the same baffle.
So i notice that is more light. In my case i will choose the legatia because sound clear and doesn't vibrate to much. Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you imagine.100_0080.jpg
...But getting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels.... Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you can imagine.
That is the same conclusion I came to when I compared the ZR800 to the Peerless SLS 8. For some cars, 8's in the door just does not work. Dedicated midbass like those just have so much kick that it is almost not worth the effort because the door will be making as much noise as the driver. There is a guy in my area that had the same type of car as mine and he had the HAT L8 in his door. He even went a step further and cut into the door skin and make nice rings using Corian. He used extra deadning everywhere....but the doors still had vibration issues. His install and my time playing with the SLS 8 and ZR800 convinced me that I would never put those drivers in the doors of my current car. Such long stroking clean and quiet drivers deserve a better enclosure than a rattling and buzzing door!
This Spring the plan is to try and get some midbasses in the kicks....but I will still be faced with many issues....Oh well....
Damn Reach this gives me second thougts on selling my ZR800's to you :-)
"No where in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it."
"People are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
Team D.I.Y.M.A, Distortion produced by the driver or rattling stuff kills the illusion of bass up front If you had a low distortion subwoofer to begin with, you wouldn't need those extra midbass drivers.. A. Wehmeyer
Were you using Class-A amplifiers? Was the damping factor > 1000? Was the distorition under .000001 %? Did you set the Kanuter valve correctly, and adjust the flux capacitor 3 more points?
Just kidding!
"No where in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it."
"People are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
Jl audio zr800 is better for low end sub extension. Hat l8se is better in high frecuencies. if you use the midbass from 40,60hz to 200hz at 12db or 24db i will recommend jl zr800. but if you extend from 250, 280,300hz the legatia works better, and is more easy to accommodate the next driver; the mid-high.
Jl audio zr800 is a heavy weight, from sub to woofer.
legatia l8se is a lightweight, from midbass to midrange.
Jl audio zr800 doesn't have to much definiton from 300hz and up but pounds harder and better in the low end. But putting the jl zr800 to play clean, you need a super door instalation because this monster is going to rattle, vibrate all your doors panels. That doesn't happen with the legatia l8se in the same baffle.
So i notice that is more light. In my case i will choose the legatia because sound clear and doesn't vibrate to much. Jl zr800 is so powerfull that i cann't control the vibration at certain volumes. I consider that i have a solid door with everything that you imagine.Attachment 25249