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You have 5 presets available.

On another note, the ENTIRE Stage 4 line has been removed from the Stage 4 page on the Pioneer site. Buried somewhere in a pic archive they show the P80 are a Stage 4 product but the only things you can find about the P99 are the owner's and installation manual. I don't know if that means it's being replaced or just discontinued but I figured you guys would want to know.

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Subwoofer amp bass knob? Maybe...

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thanks- and I do use the sub level control on the deck occasionally but the frequencies I need to adjust are in the 80 to 250 Hz range or so. In other words adjusting the sub level does not do the job.

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I never change EQ based on recordings. I do have a remote gain control for the subwoofer, it's the only thing I change if the recording sounds too thin.

The "tone controls" found on cheaper HUs are often a mid-Q EQ-bands focused around 100/1000/10000Hz fyi.
understood- the tone controls usually have a wide Q as well but they are simple adjustments easy to make on the fly.
the JBL MS-8 includes remote bass/mid/treble adjustments.

many decent OE systems probably dial in a baseline EQ curve and then supply the bass/mid/treble to fine tune from there.

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You have 5 presets available.

On another note, the ENTIRE Stage 4 line has been removed from the Stage 4 page on the Pioneer site. Buried somewhere in a pic archive they show the P80 are a Stage 4 product but the only things you can find about the P99 are the owner's and installation manual. I don't know if that means it's being replaced or just discontinued but I figured you guys would want to know.
Thanks for the info. I am hoping they do replace it with a new and improved P99 even though I probably wouldn't upgrade soon- it would just be sad to think the leading mobile electronics manufacturer would not find a business case to develop and produce an audiophile deck.

I'll probably go the 5-preset route and just dial in some high Q curve adjustments from baseline.

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You have 5 presets available.

On another note, the ENTIRE Stage 4 line has been removed from the Stage 4 page on the Pioneer site. Buried somewhere in a pic archive they show the P80 are a Stage 4 product but the only things you can find about the P99 are the owner's and installation manual. I don't know if that means it's being replaced or just discontinued but I figured you guys would want to know.
I noticed this yesterday as well.

If Pioneer replaces that P99 I am eager to see what is next!...not that I have any complaints with my P99, parametric eq would be nice though

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I'm gonna wait and see but if they don't replace it with something good I will scrounge up a P99 and the BT module.

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If there is a double din version.... That would be perfect.

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That's what I'm hoping for as well.

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If there is a double din version.... That would be perfect.
you might want to bump up your post count- quickly!

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you might want to bump up your post count- quickly!
Huh?

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666 posts. Something bad has to happen :P

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666 posts. Something bad has to happen :P
Ohhhhh lol. I was so confused. I use the mobile app and it doesn't show post count. Thanks for the clarification lol.

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well you learn something new every day and maybe you knew this about the P99, maybe you did not- but
yesterday i learned that you can mute a given channel (sub, low, mid or high, L or R) just by going to the network 1 position for each- and simply down press the multi-function knob until the mute setting is displayed.
i could have used this a long time ago during the tuning process.
it was immediately useful to check the stage position of each side front to rear based on TA settings.

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well you learn something new every day and maybe you knew this about the P99, maybe you did not- but
yesterday i learned that you can mute a given channel (sub, low, mid or high, L or R) just by going to the network 1 position for each- and simply down press the multi-function knob until the mute setting is displayed.
i could have used this a long time ago during the tuning process.
it was immediately useful to check the stage position of each side front to rear based on TA settings.
Good reason why people should read the manual...

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I so wish I hadn't read the OP. I'd just convinced myself I was content with my current equipment.
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I hear ya. I'm thinking about one and it would be nothing but the transport. I have no need for any of its processing.

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Good reason why people should read the manual...

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I did read it- just missed this one. Sure enough, it is in there.

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Update 6/22/13.
After some struggle of how to do some minor tonal adjustments on the fly with the P99 relative to the base "tune" or EQ setting, I did some research about common center frequencies and Q factor for the typical bass, midrange and treble controls found in many OEM head units.
The goal is to make minor tonal adjustments to compensate for different recordings that may be off balance in one region of the frequency spectrum or another.
Since the P99 does not include bass, midrange or treble controls and I have not found the perfect sweet spot tune curve that will make every recording sound great, I did need some capability for real time adjustments.
The idea of multiple EQ memory settings was attempted but you quickly become very limited by the (5) available memory presets. For example, a +/- 2 db range for the bass, midrange and treble "bands" in 1/2 db increments would require 512 memory settings for all of the possible combinations. Not achievable or practical.
The conclusion I came to is that most bass, midrange and treble controls center at 100Hz, 1.25Khz and 8Khz with a nominally mid level Q-factor. Not too wide and not too narrow.
So I predetermined that adjusting the "bass" would consist of an EQ boost or cut at 100Hz, (example 1db) followed by a boost or cut of half the amount (e.g. 0.5db) at the frequency bands just before and after 100Hz- being 80 and 125Hz. So a bass boost resembles an even shaped bell curve centered at 100 Hz and tapering to zero just before and after each neighboring frequency band.
A "midrange" boost of 2-db would consist of a 1 db boost at 1Khz, a 2db boost at 1.25 Khz and a 1db boost at 1.6Khz. A treble adjustment would center at 8Khz and be followed by adjustments of 1/2 that amount at the 6.3 and 10Khz bands.
This is done because the P99's 31 band EQ is just too sharp of a resolution at each individual band to make a noticeable difference. The individual bands have a low, narrow q-factor.
In practice, a little cumbersome but I did save my base EQ curve and created another to make adjustments with without losing the original.
I made some nice on the fly adjustments to a given CD that was just a little bass heavy and midrange muddled so that once set, the entire CD sounds great.
All in all an excellent "poor man's" bass, midrange and treble controls.

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Is it more expensive than before?

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Same price. Same unit. Instill can't figure out why the Stage 4 page was empty for a bit.

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crutchfield has it for the exact price I paid a year and a half ago. other places have it the same or higher - e.g. woofers etc. abt.

for a while there the unit was not available to many retailers (in fact, only crutchfield online) when the stage 4 product became more exclusive for some reason.
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i'm experiencing an occasional loss of display when i adjust the audio with the MFC. it comes back on when i let go- or in one case i had to cycle the power.

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Sounds like the ribbon cable is going bad.

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