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I wasn't commenting on what was inferior/superior, I was simply pointing out that this claim was wrong, " but only ALAC will actually use the DAC in the P99RS for conversion." Any digital format that is sent to the P99RS will use the DAC in the head unit.

I agree though that ALAC is the way to go, that's what I use, but to say that ALAC is the only file type that will go through the P99RS DAC is simply wrong.

Additionally, in modern equipment, the DAC is not going to be the weak link. I agree that avoiding multiple conversions is ideal, but the DAC in an ipod is going to be very respectable, and even if it measures more poorly than the DAC in the P99RS, it isn't going to be a problem.

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I have a p99rs and I'd like to add a 12 disc changer. Does anyone know which one I would need that would connect to the p99rs? ....with music played though the disc changer, will the source signal be as clean as when played through the p99 itself?

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I have a p99rs and I'd like to add a 12 disc changer. Does anyone know which one I would need that would connect to the p99rs? ....with music played though the disc changer, will the source signal be as clean as when played through the p99 itself?

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I don't see the point when you could use an ipod loaded with lossless files. You'll get more albums, take up less space, and not sacrifice sound quality.

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oh wow... for real? I guess I'm stuck in the 90's

I gotta figure out how to get these files on an ipod. Can I convert all my CD's to lossless? And the signal quality with be the same going through the ipod/usb cable.... as if I was playing a CD through the p99rs?

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oh wow... for real? I guess I'm stuck in the 90's

I gotta figure out how to get these files on an ipod. Can I convert all my CD's to lossless? And the signal quality with be the same going through the ipod/usb cable.... as if I was playing a CD through the p99rs?

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In iTunes you can rip your CDs to Apple Lossless (ALAC). The files will be bit for bit the same as a CD. The digital file will be sent via USB to the P99RS which has great digital to analog converters. I can say with confidence that it will sound every bit as good as a CD, you will be able to carry a ton of music, and you'll only need a single cable from the iPod to the deck.

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gijoe, you just saved me a lot of money and headache. THANKS BRO!!!!!
I'm just getting back into the game after a 20 year hiatus.
I'm guessing I can use my iphone instead of an ipod?
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gijoe, you just saved me a lot of money and headache. THANKS BRO!!!!!
I'm just getting back into the game after a 20 year hiatus.
I'm guessing I can use my iphone instead of an ipod?
I don't know which iPhones are compatible, but I use the newest generation iPod touch in it without issues.

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I have the latest iPhone so I'm guessing that will work.... and i have 65 gig's still available. Thanks!
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All iPhones and iPods will work except maybe the first two generations of iPods.


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Now I can play with the kewl kids! Mine has been ordered.

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Just bought my new iPhone 6 on Saturday and attempted to use Spotify via the P99RS with the lightning cable attached to USB input. Works like a charm and sounds great, wow I am excited. Even lets me skip tracks just like on my iPad 2. Woohoo!!!

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So very very happy. Now if I can just get that trim ring to sit right......




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Though the 80PRS is no slouch, the P99RS is a nice upgrade right? Still loving mine as much and more than the day I got it

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The 80 is a wonderful deck but I thought its performance would be much closer. It is not.

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how much of a difference did you notice just by switching?

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Tons. It is much better sounding by a large amount.

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Tons. It is much better sounding by a large amount.
or is it just psycho-acoustics at work?

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or is it just psycho-acoustics at work?
This certainly plays a big role. The 99 is beautiful looking, the controls feel more solid, and just the cost alone warrants a perceived improvement. It is a "better" head unit, but the 80 is no joke either.

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The p99 is light years better than the 80 having dealt with both. Not comparable at all. Not a big fan of the 80 but the p99 I love!
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The p99 is light years better than the 80 having dealt with both. Not comparable at all. Not a big fan of the 80 but the p99 I love!
They are very comparable, I have also used both, as well as the 880prs. Yes the P99 has more features, and looks nicer, but if you are running a standard 2-way plus sub I don't see the P99 offering any real sonic advantages. It looks better, feels better, and has more features but I don't think there is a huge difference (if any) sonically (assuming both units are running the same setup).

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Apples & oranges. 3-way vs 4-way and the competency of either to accomplish what they were designed for, not what one may try to coax beyond its intended use deemed by the manufacturer. Then subtract cost difference & bias and what you have is neither comes close to being the end all be all but a clean enough unit to base a system off of whether alone or expanded through further outside electronic manipulation (your choice of poison). I do believe the comparisons are detailed on this forum.

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They are very comparable, I have also used both, as well as the 880prs. Yes the P99 has more features, and looks nicer, but if you are running a standard 2-way plus sub I don't see the P99 offering any real sonic advantages. It looks better, feels better, and has more features but I don't think there is a huge difference (if any) sonically (assuming both units are running the same setup).
I had identical setups in my Jeep and my truck, both 2-way with the same tweeters, same mids, same amps, same sub, same gain settings, same xover points, etc. 80PRS in the Jeep, P99 in my truck. Only Helen Keller would have thought they sounded the same

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I had identical setups in my Jeep and my truck, both 2-way with the same tweeters, same mids, same amps, same sub, same gain settings, same xover points, etc. 80PRS in the Jeep, P99 in my truck. Only Helen Keller would have thought they sounded the same
yeah i heard her hearing isnt that good. the lady probably couldnt even hear the differences between RCA cables

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Everyone's hearing is different. I attribute it to the more precise EQ, possibly better auto-EQ/TA though I thought the 80PRS did a better job at the Auto TA than the P99...P99 didn't really get it right unless I either played around with distances OR and this is a huge percentage of luck, but pointing the calibration mic just ever so slightly to the right and down put my soundstage wayyyyyy up high and center even without dedicated mids. A few members on here have heard it and told me I would not benefit much from going 3-way up front, that's how high it is, even with a 3khz crossover. And GM put the mids in these trucks wayyyy down low. I also noticed that even when I had identical everything including tweeters, mids, amps, xover points/slopes and TA distances, soundstage with the 80PRS was centered and pin-point exact while the P99 is wide and open. I'm sure there is a measurable spec for that but I'm no sound engineer so not sure what could create that. Either way, I prefer the wide open stage vs. pinpoint. Again, my ears are different than others and did not mean for my Helen Keller post to be offensive to anyone, just my own experience. And I'm not one to subscribe to audiophoolery very easily, still rocking factory Speaker Wire and compressed music 90% of the time I do wish the P99 had Bluetooth built in like the 80PRS, 80PRS Bluetooth sound quality is the best I've heard in any deck ever.

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It is not psycho somatic. Since the dash was apart and I had dual pre wired GM plugs I swapped the PRS80 back in after zeroing the P99 (forgot I could hit the reset button....doh!) because I was suprised how much better it sounded.
Both decks auto EQ off, TA off, EQ flat, sub set at -5 and 80hz @12db, mids at 100hz 12db and 2500hz 18db and tweeters high passed at 2500 with a 24db slope. Same CD. Took 5 minutes to swap decks so I heard them back to back. Sonicly the 99 is far superior. Two way active and it has much more processor to use than the 80 has.

I do need to readjust my amp gains as the 99 is definitely sending more voltage out.

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