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It's driven by mic reading into Pioneer's algorithm. Once you run auto-EQ on the 99RS, I'll bet you can't see the "auto-EQ" trims, like the 80PRS, which is a shame.
That's what I though! thanks...

Just curious to see pictures of the auto-EQ trims in the 80PRS, if you have some time please share!

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That's what I though! thanks...

Just curious to see pictures of the auto-EQ trims in the 80PRS, if you have some time please share!

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That's the thing.. You can't see them. Unfortunate. I beat the pants off of it though with a mic and room eq wizard, and I'm a newb who barely knows how to tune, so I don't put much stock in it anyway. But it was fun to mess with. 99RS might be better though.

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That's the thing.. You can't see them. Unfortunate. I beat the pants off of it though with a mic and room eq wizard, and I'm a newb who barely knows how to tune, so I don't put much stock in it anyway. But it was fun to mess with. 99RS might be better though.
I understand, I just wanted to see if you could take a couple of pictures of your 80PRS showing the auto-EQ trims, to see what are we missing

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I understand, I just wanted to see if you could take a couple of pictures of your 80PRS showing the auto-EQ trims, to see what are we missing



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Yeah can't see it. Can only turn it on or off. About like the 99RS. Very similar interfaces.


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So, you guys like the auto eq on the 99? I've never even tried it because the auto eq in my old 880 blew goats. Maybe I should give it a try, although I suspect I'll like my current eq better, but would be a fun experiment.
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i havent even tried it. nor do i know how lol. wheres the fun in that though?


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i havent even tried it. nor do i know how lol. wheres the fun in that though?
I'm more or less just curious how much pioneers algorithms have changed since my 880.......I hope a lot, cos autotune on it sucked in every aspect. The 880 would place yer center above the instruments, and the eq was funky......
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I'm more or less just curious how much pioneers algorithms have changed since my 880.......I hope a lot, cos autotune on it sucked in every aspect. The 880 would place yer center above the instruments, and the eq was funky......

Can choose to turn off auto-EQ it easy enough. I suggest writing down your entire tune though just in case. TA/XO's/EQ, everything. It'll definitely change your TA and EQ and possibly phase settings.


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Yup....I would definitely record everything.....or not, lmao, and just start over again. I do that occasionally anyways......lol.
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The auto EQ/TA process has been vastly improved since the old 800/880. The results are beyond impressive, at least for me. TA is a little more of an issue, it took a few tries to get auto TA to work well for my setup but once I figured out that method the results are the best I've ever had and I haven't touched it in ~16 months.

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the auto eq in my old 880 blew goats.
I don't see how that would help the SQ at all....
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My p99rs remote needed some cleaning, so I made a guide on how to clean it:

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The auto EQ/TA process has been vastly improved since the old 800/880. The results are beyond impressive, at least for me. TA is a little more of an issue, it took a few tries to get auto TA to work well for my setup but once I figured out that method the results are the best I've ever had and I haven't touched it in ~16 months.
Ok, went back and tried it........uh, hell no........went from awesome to damn near unlistenable, lmao. The exact same results I had with the 880. So much for improved algorithms......I'm glad someone is having luck with it, but I'll stick with the manual tune.
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Remember that mic placement and install are going to be huge variables as well. Also, if you are used to a certain sound signature, not much a flat response is going to do to change a subjective preference. Might be worth taking an RTA of your ear-tuned EQ settings just to see how it measures. Also, myself and others have been able to get much better calibration results by sitting in the driver's seat with the mic on my forehead (bridge of glasses), facing forward since the process then accounts for the listener which will improve both EQ and TA adjustments. But if you like it how it is right now, no reason to change.

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No install problems, and I simply mounted the mic facing forward on my headrest. I then raised my seat back to the target area ( ears in line with the seat belt brackets ), then let it do its thing. The tune it gave me was wonky as hell, lol. Super diffuse, and no sort of center......phase was seriously jacked, and lacking any focus at all. Add to that a really, really bright tonality, and the subs very obviously behind me and you've got it. I know exactly what my normal ( for as long as I keep them, lol ) tunes look like on the rta..........maybe I'm just missing some sort of trick with the mic, or my p99 just sucks....lmao. Anyways, it was just an experiment, to see if I got different results than with my 880, and because I simply hadn't tried it even though the 99 has been in the Car a while. The results were exactly what I remember from the old pioneer......and, no worries, I rather enjoy tuning myself, and usually have quite satisfactory results.....
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The auto EQ is just ok, basically the same as with the 880/800 and 80. I think it does a pretty decent job getting left and right EQ'd, but does a pretty bad job with overall tonality. The highs are always way too bright and it always turns the subs down way too low. Honestly though, since there are so many tuning features available on it, I think the auto EQ and TA are mostly just there to make sure they had a broad enough demographic to sell to. Without the auto features these head units (especially the 99) would really only be appealing to a very small group of people.

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Werd, the auto tune features I believe are just there as an after thought, to broaden the appeal. When I bought the 880 years ago I was a bit overwhelmed at the tuning options.......but the auto results quickly inspired me to learn for myself. Fast forward to now and I find the 99 just barely has enough Power to keep me happy......lol.
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I'm more or less just curious how much pioneers algorithms have changed since my 880.......
They haven't changed much, the auto tune on the p99 sucks. But why would you buy a p99 if you wanted to auto tune

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They haven't changed much, the auto tune on the p99 sucks. But why would you buy a p99 if you wanted to auto tune
I agree, but I think it's there for the guy browsing crutchfield buying the fanciest gear........"look, it even tunes itself!"
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Hey dudes....got a question for you......

I have the P99RS....been enjoying it for several years.

P99 operation manual

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I just bought a FiiO X5ii - going to have two 200GB micro SD cards in it - everything at 320 kbs AAC format.

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I would like to connect this to my P99 instead of using the two iPods I currently am using (that are only a fraction full because I haven't had time to load them through iTunes).

I have tried using the 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter for Aux 1 in the faceplate....Yuck! I had to turn up the volume in the X5 all the way and turn the P99 up most of the way....then if the faceplate were to close while the adapter is connected.....that would be a huge fail!

The X5 has coax/line out (3.5mm) - comes with a 3.5mm to coax female adapter that I can plug a digital coax cable to go from the X5 to a home DAC.

Digital cable adapter

Somewhere I saw a photo of a 3.5mm coax to stereo (left / right) RCA - that I'm sure could be useful for the RCA connection for the Aux 2 adapter for the P99

Pioneer adapter

I would hate to buy the 3.5mm to RCA cable, then the CDRB10 piece for the back of the unit, and then it sounds worse than the iPod....or worse, it sounds like the 3.5mm to 2.5mm connection in Aux 1

Can anyone speculate whether it would work to connect the micro USB to the full size USB connection in the rear of the P99? I wonder if it would work like an external hard drive - roaming through the folders with the P99 remote, or if I would still use the X5 to find the tracks I want to hear?

cable like this

micro usb to USB cable

I know the easy answer is to fill up the iPods and use what I already have.....but to have 400 GB of music on one device would be nice. Then I could use the micro usb to USB cable to go into the cigarette lighter for charging the X5 on long trips.

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Hey dudes....got a question for you......

I have the P99RS....been enjoying it for several years.

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I just bought a FiiO X5ii - going to have two 200GB micro SD cards in it - everything at 320 kbs AAC format.

FiiO X5ii Users Manual

I would like to connect this to my P99 instead of using the two iPods I currently am using (that are only a fraction full because I haven't had time to load them through iTunes).

I have tried using the 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter for Aux 1 in the faceplate....Yuck! I had to turn up the volume in the X5 all the way and turn the P99 up most of the way....then if the faceplate were to close while the adapter is connected.....that would be a huge fail!

The X5 has coax/line out (3.5mm) - comes with a 3.5mm to coax female adapter that I can plug a digital coax cable to go from the X5 to a home DAC.

Digital cable adapter

Somewhere I saw a photo of a 3.5mm coax to stereo (left / right) RCA - that I'm sure could be useful for the RCA connection for the Aux 2 adapter for the P99

Pioneer adapter

I would hate to buy the 3.5mm to RCA cable, then the CDRB10 piece for the back of the unit, and then it sounds worse than the iPod....or worse, it sounds like the 3.5mm to 2.5mm connection in Aux 1

Can anyone speculate whether it would work to connect the micro USB to the full size USB connection in the rear of the P99? I wonder if it would work like an external hard drive - roaming through the folders with the P99 remote, or if I would still use the X5 to find the tracks I want to hear?

cable like this

micro usb to USB cable

I know the easy answer is to fill up the iPods and use what I already have.....but to have 400 GB of music on one device would be nice. Then I could use the micro usb to USB cable to go into the cigarette lighter for charging the X5 on long trips.
The only sure shot way is to find out by experimenting with it, if the player somehow manages to show itself as a mass storage device it just might work. IMHO though, i'd still prefer running either a USB drive/Hard drive or through an ipod since the p99 bypasses the ipod's DAC and processes the raw data itself.

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If I swop the RCA cables around behind the HU the noisy RCA is no longer the noisy RCA?

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I got my p99rs install last week.

- You can't turn off the stupid beep
- Build quality is absolutely appalling, loose and plastic. Definitely not high end and nothing compared to my drz9255.
- Sounds good
- ipod function is excellent
- it's not drz but ipod functions overrides everything.
- did I mention poor Build quality, tacky rca plugs, remote made if cheese, head unit face moves a millimeter or too.
- menus are a pain
- processing is excellent

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Default Re: DEX-P99RS Ongoing Review and Discoveries

^^^. Can I ask if you've purchased this new in box ?

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For sale nib / Sinfoni Tempo 10 / Sinfoni T65W / Sundown Audio 12" SD-3 / Alpine PDX V9
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