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Default re: 6-7" Midrange/Midbass Subjective Listening Shootout - Dyn/HAT/Scan/AT/Focal

So I guess no 660 gti then

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^We should PM Andy Wehmeyer to see if the 660GTI's are still in production. Would really like to see these in the test.

Wouldn't mind having a pair of Mark Brooks/Audible Physics new 6.5" Arian mids in this test as well. Initial impressions by Jason (bertholomey) look very promising.

SEAS W18NX-001 NEXTEL - I'm back in town from business, so I'll be able to ship these to Erin this Tuesday (Aug. 14th) to get them on the Klippel, and he'll forward them to Jerry on my dime. Might send some other drivers to Erin as well if he wants them to test.

I also have the B&G Neo3 (non-PDR) tweeters and Hiquphon OW1 tweeters that were discussed to be used as the main tweeters for this test. Could also send the Alpine SPX-17PRO mids and Pioneer TSC-720PRS mids to Erin to Klippel. I'll send whatever he wants to test.

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^ send me a PM with the other drivers you're considering.
Will do.

FYI, I PM'd and emailed Andy Wehmeyer regarding the JBL 660GTI production/availability, so I will post here if I hear back from him.
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I think we are going to include the JBL since so many are calling for it, but let me know what Andy says.

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Exactly my thoughts. I am swinging back and forth as to whether to upgrade my 6 inch midbass (one of these likely) or going with an 8 or larger midbass and praying it fits in behind the door card without hacking it up. I would love to try the Scan Rev 8s but they are what 100 mm depth If I go 8 likely the Dyn MW182 or Morel elate 9 (new one). Really want to see what this test reveals. It will be a fun read nonetheless and I thank all involved for making it happen.

Am I the only one that liked the suggestion of putting in a set of mw182 into this test to see what the advantage/disadvantage of the larger driver would be? I guess that would be a totally different type of test tho
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I think we are going to include the JBL since so many are calling for it, but let me know what Andy says.
Awesome! I'll keep you posted, Jerry.

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I'd still like to see the MLK1600 tested....
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I think we are going to include the JBL since so many are calling for it, but let me know what Andy says.
Does this mean the 18 Sound 6ND430 is out?

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No, we can still do the 18 Sound. Who is going to send me a pair?

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No, we can still do the 18 Sound. Who is going to send me a pair?
Jason (thehatedguy) mentioned earlier in this thread he would... unless they're already in his kicks.

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I never heard back from anyone. They are in the kicks...literally. But not connected to anything or powered up...not even screwed down/in yet. One looks like it had an accident with a spray foam can (it did) in the back, but nothing that would effect how it sounds or looks from the front side.

I just thought no one wanted to test them since I never heard back. I would have to find some boxes to ship them in since I threw away the ones they came in after holding on to them in case someone wanted me to send them out for testing.
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And if looking at tweeters, the idea of a wideband as a tweeter...I dunno about. I would want a tweeter that is at least as sensitive as the mids being testing so you wouldn't have to pad the mid down to the wideband's level. Just to preserve as much dynamics from the mid as you can get since we are talking about midrange testing.

If the 18Sound went, you have a 92 dB sensitive mid there, pairing it to an 80 something dB sensitive wideband would be a serious handicap in terms of dynamics and output IMO.

The Neo 3 is good because it has decent sensitivity, has independent 3rd party data to verify it's performance, not too expensive- if anyone wants to purchase them, I know a guy who can get wholesale pricing at PE on them (wow, have gone way up in price since I last looked...thanks to neo costs), in production, no afflilation to anyone testing (I know how some guys will cry bias even though we are looking at mids here), and they were a forum boner 10 years back.
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Jerry, do you want me to send you the B&G Neo3 (non-PDR) and/or Hiquphon OW1 tweeters for the test?

If so, I will send them along with the SEAS W18NX-001 mids. Let me know ASAP and I'll get all of these out to Erin and he can forward them all to you when he's done Klippel-testing the Seas.

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Got the JBL set today to test. May wind up testing all of it rather than just the mid only.


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you will love the set with dispite the cheesy case

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you will love the set with dispite the cheesy case
I thought the case was quite nice looking from the pictures; professional. Just like alot of other top brands do with their top offerings. Great protection for shipping. I am curious how these will stack up against the rest just like alot of others apparently.
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I am about 95% certain the GTis borrow a lot from the Synthesis home speakers and/or the studio monitors. They should be technically very good.
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Got the JBL set today to test. May wind up testing all of it rather than just the mid only.
Sounds good to me! Would be nice to see how the tweeters perform as well. BTW, I just sent you a PM.

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Okay Jerry et all, to reiterate, here are the drivers I have available and am willing to send in for Erin's Klippel testing and the Midbass/Midrange Shootout:

1. Seas W18NX-001 pair
2. B&G Neo3 (non-PDR) tweeter pair
3. Hiquphon OW1 tweeter pair
4. Pioneer Premier TS-C720PRS 6.75" mid pair
5. Alpine SPX-17PRO 6.75" mid pair


PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP what you want me to send so I can get these off to Erin tomorrow or Tuesday! I will be leaving town for another 3-week photo shoot so this is my ONLY CHANCE to ship these out!


I will pay for all shipping to/from Erin & Jerry and back to me for this test.

I also have the following driver pairs available if Erin is interested in Klippel testing any of them, even if they don't apply to this 6.5"-7" test:

Pioneer Premier TS-C520PRS 5.25" mids


Alpine SPX-13PRO 5.25" mids & Tweeters (Vifa xt25 derivative tweeters)


All of these drivers are new...mostly backups for various installs I've had over the years, so they have NOT had any break-in.

Again, PLEASE let me know ASAP what you definitely want me to send for the test as I will ONLY HAVE ONE CHANCE to get these Shipped!

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YO, Jerry and Erin! PLEASE respond to my latest PM's ASAP! Oh...and when you do, Please include your PHONE # for Shipping purposes! Got to get the SEAS W18NX-001's out to you tomorrow (TUESDAY) or it will NOT happen.

Are these going directly to Jerry, or to Erin first???...

I don't have either of your Shipping Addresses or PayPal addys!

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Got it, Yo! And I received Jerry's PM as well. Thanks guys...appreciate the quick response. The Seas W18NX-001 pair will be off to Erin today. Please handle with care and let me know when you receive them.
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that alpine spx pro looks a lot like the sliced paper cone of the scan revelators
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Erin,

The Seas W18NX001 mids have been shipped to you today (August 14th) via USPS Priority Mail.

You should receive them this Thursday. Please let me know when you receive them.

This set is new and has not seen power so it will be your duty to "break them in"!

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