From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
In my last install, I ran a DRZ-9255 and absolutely loved the clean sound from that unit. (I've also previously used a Denford 8250m and an old Sony ES CDX-C780)
I am currently planning a new install in a different vehicle, and I'm looking hard at the new Pioneer deh-80PRS. I know it doesn't have quite as much flexibility in the tuning department (3-way active vs 4-way, etc), but what I'm concerned omst about is the sound. How will this compare sound wise to the other top units out there (p99rs, DRZ, etc) ?
My only other hang up is the crossover settings...why oh why can't they have more HPF settings on the MID section of these? If you want to run a 3-way active system up front, the highest you can cross your mids at is 250hz. Would love a few more optoins up there as it makes running a 3" driver (which is much easier to install) much harder.
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-90PRS...will I be dissappointed?
Dude,
Are you asking about DEH-80PRS or DEX-P90RS.
New DEH-P80PRS plastic is selling for 300-350 BNIB, while DRZ9255 is about 3 times at cost.
What about P90 it's very good item. I heard both. It depends from which amps and s[eakers consist system. In example, I heard fully 3-way brax monobrand system running from P90. It was great sound without "soul". Many people and me too keeping thier DRZ9255(HX-D2) because it has amazing incomparable its own sound. So, If you're asked about 80PRS it's another level (I'm sure that you meant this HU). Don't compare it with greatest HU IMHO.
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-90PRS...will I be dissappointed?
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Originally Posted by captainobvious
If you want to run a 3-way active system up front, the highest you can cross your mids at is 250hz. Would love a few more optoins up there as it makes running a 3" driver (which is much easier to install) much harder.
Well, the only way to run a 3-way front off the deck is to have another crossover in the mix.
Example A
Add a 2-way crossover to devide the signal between the midrange and midbass.
But the deck handles a 3-way active front already...with no need to add an additional crossover network UNLESS you don't tlike the crossover settings available on the deck. I just wish the MID HPF could extend higher than 250hz, is all.
EDIT: I think you were assuming a subwoofer was in the mix- not the case. This would be for a Midbass + Midrange + Tweeter, OR Midbass + wideband
If I wanted to run a sub, I would simply use the crossover on the sub amp. But it's very likely I wont need to run one...time will tell.
There have been no bad reviews as far as sq goes with the 80. Although its in a lower price range it offers great features in the sq department. Try it out, if you don't like it sell it for a very small loss. Even if the sound isn't up to par the updated features might compensate for it.
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Head unit- Pioneer DEH 80prs Dsp- JBL Ms8 Amps -2 ppi p900.4
. Tweeters - Lpg26na Midrange - Tang band W3
. Mid Bass - Rs180 sub - 2 jl 10w6v2
I think you were assuming a subwoofer was in the mix- not the case. This would be for a Midbass + Midrange + Tweeter, OR Midbass + wideband
If I wanted to run a sub, I would simply use the crossover on the sub amp. But it's very likely I wont need to run one...time will tell.
I guess myself and Pioneer did assume a sub was in the mix. 250 Hz on a 3" might be ugly...you may have to use the amps HP crossover if it has one. As far as sound...have yet to hear this deck but the previous PRS decks are good sounding products....but the Clarion and the P99 have the high price for a reason. If you keep that in mind you will not be disappointed...the Pioneer might even suprise you...given its low price.
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
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Originally Posted by WLDock
I guess myself and Pioneer did assume a sub was in the mix. 250 Hz on a 3" might be ugly...you may have to use the amps HP crossover if it has one. As far as sound...have yet to hear this deck but the previous PRS decks are good sounding products....but the Clarion and the P99 have the high price for a reason. If you keep that in mind you will not be disappointed...the Pioneer might even suprise you...given its low price.
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Yup, makes sense. I wouldnt be as worried about the 250hz crossover point if I was running the FR88/FR89 3"ers as they have plenty of xmax to handle that range without worries of over-excursion death. The W3-1364SA is another story though...Oh well, if I burn them up it will give me an excuse to need an upgrade
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
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Originally Posted by duro78
There have been no bad reviews as far as sq goes with the 80. Although its in a lower price range it offers great features in the sq department. Try it out, if you don't like it sell it for a very small loss. Even if the sound isn't up to par the updated features might compensate for it.
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Yup, not like I'd be out much. I just ordered the 80PRS and I'll see what it can do shortly
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
It's funny I found this post.... I had almost considered the same change.. I kinda miss the ability to run USB etc even though the SQ loss through MP3 it was easier then swapping CD's all the time. I ended up getting the 6 disk changer with optical cable.. Now I really love this setup.. I got 2 cartridges so that helps also. Another thing would have been having HD Radio.
Since the 80 is at a lower price than the 800 was I wonder if the components are as good. I switched from the 800 go the DRZ & heard a pretty substantial difference, but the 800 still sounded dn good. The only thing that really erks me about the DRZ is the 18db slope crossovers. Why couldn't they used 24db? The 5 band PEQ is a nice tool if you know how to use it properly (I was intimidated by it). I use the P01 now & love it! I have a trusty backup in the DRZ though.
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
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Originally Posted by t3sn4f2
In your biased sighted opinion.
Biased.. Have you heard and compared the two with the same setup? I think its you guys who are biased based on a bunch of graphs that can't tell you how you will hear it. You must understand.. I WANTED this to be a great deck with great sound but it's simple no competition for the DRZ. I am keeping it anyways.. it is badass because of all the extra functions.. SD, dual USB, ipod control, pandora, and honestly I don't see why ppl think its ugly. It's a good looking deck. I think with enough seat time the tune will come but I am saying overall sound flat for flat... DRZ is just better. It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. If you don't like it that is fine but don't sit there and call me biased.. which really makes zero sense because I plan on selling the DRZ anyway and hope a DSP will makeup the difference.
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
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Originally Posted by Got-Four-Eights
Biased.. Have you heard and compared the two with the same setup? I think its you guys who are biased based on a bunch of graphs that can't tell you how you will hear it. You must understand.. I WANTED this to be a great deck with great sound but it's simple no competition for the DRZ. I am keeping it anyways.. it is badass because of all the extra functions.. SD, dual USB, ipod control, pandora, and honestly I don't see why ppl think its ugly. It's a good looking deck. I think with enough seat time the tune will come but I am saying overall sound flat for flat... DRZ is just better. It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. If you don't like it that is fine but don't sit there and call me biased.. which really makes zero sense because I plan on selling the DRZ anyway and hope a DSP will makeup the difference.
Being biased toward something is not always a conscious choice, and it certainly isn't a criticism.
Thx, no matter how much I read.. it won't change my opinion of what I just heard. I played 5 songs all the way through before installing the 80prs and then played them on the 80prs. All songs from the dynaudio disk. They sound very different from each other. It's not even a subtle difference. I have managed to get it sounding better.. just need more seat time. Overall I love everything else about the deck...
From a DRZ to a DEH-80PRS...will I be dissappointed?
Re: From a DRZ to a DEH-90PRS...will I be dissappointed?
.. Have you heard and compared the two with the same setup? I think its you guys who are biased based on a bunch of graphs that can't tell you how you will hear it. You must understand.. I WANTED this to be a great deck with great sound but it's simple no competition for the DRZ. I am keeping it anyways.. it is badass because of all the extra functions.. SD, dual USB, ipod control, pandora, and honestly I don't see why ppl think its ugly. It's a good looking deck. I think with enough seat time the tune will come but I am saying overall sound flat for flat... DRZ is just better. It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. If you don't like it that is fine but don't sit there and call me biased.. which really makes zero sense because I plan on selling the DRZ anyway and hope a DSP will makeup the difference.
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