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You ever get this figured out? You sure you don't have the leads from the crossover to the tweeter/mid switched up?
Ya dude. If that were the case the tweeter would be nothing more than a puff smoke by now.
There's nothing wrong with these. It was all my ears. I went and had a physical today tot work. Had the doc look at my ears because of a pain ive been having in my ear for awhile now.
Turns out I had enough wax in there to make a weeping candle.

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lol. The ole wax in the ear excuse. Hope it is not more than just an inconvenience.

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lol. The ole wax in the ear excuse. Hope it is not more than just an inconvenience.
All is good now. He used a little...um sucky thingy and got so much wax out of my ears.
While he was doing it he'd pull out a ball of wax and i'd be able to hear things like the paper i was sitting on crackling and then brrrrrrrrrr then he'd pull more out.
Took about thirty mins. when all was said and done there were two pile of orange wax. Like really dark orange.
Wish i would've took some pics with my phone.

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Umm, no thanks lol....you sound like my wife's friend who asked my wife to bring her gallbladder home in a jar for her
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Umm, no thanks lol....you sound like my wife's friend who asked my wife to bring her gallbladder home in a jar for her
It's not that bad man. Is it?

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All is good now. He used a little...um sucky thingy and got so much wax out of my ears.
While he was doing it he'd pull out a ball of wax and i'd be able to hear things like the paper i was sitting on crackling and then brrrrrrrrrr then he'd pull more out.
Took about thirty mins. when all was said and done there were two pile of orange wax. Like really dark orange.
Wish i would've took some pics with my phone.
I have to have mine done every 2 or 3 years. They use a saline solution to press it out from the backside. Makes a HUGE difference.

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I have to have mine done every 2 or 3 years. They use a saline solution to press it out from the backside. Makes a HUGE difference.
I've had that done too. But the other day he used something like the dentist uses to suck the saliva or blood or whatever.
He put this expanding tube in my ear stretched it out a little and started pulling the wax out.
It's alot more um pleasurable experience. Plus the last time they used the saline stuff i felt like i had water in my ear for a week.
Theres none of that with the way this guy did it.

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Default Re: JBL MS-62c First impressions. These surprised the hell out of me!

Can anybody tell me what the physical diameter of this tweeter is WITHOUT the mounting cup--just the bare tweeter? The manual doesn't show that dimension. I want to know if it will fit in my stock tweeter mount.

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Default Re: JBL MS-62c First impressions. These surprised the hell out of me!

The tweeter fit in my sierra A-Pillars without too much modifaction ,measured at about 38mm or just under 1.5"for the ring around the face...the stock tweeters were 1" and very little trimming had to be done for the rear portion to fit once out of the cups ...hope this helps .

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Just ordered a set of these... Plan to run them active, does any one know what the individual impedances are of the drivers separately? Also, if the sensitivity changes?

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Kevin C,

Can the tweeters be pulled from its casing, basically exposing the tweeter without its grill? If so, would that be much small than 1.5"?

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Just got my set in last night. Pioneer 80PRS will be here tonight.

Debating on setup still... Really want a nice 5-channel to run the front stage active, plus a sub. I've noticed a few people running the tweets off of the deck power. Is this still a viable option, or has everyone moved on from that?

I have some old amps laying around that I may use. RF Power 750S, about 850W bridged to 4 ohm for the sub. RF Punch 201S, rated at 50w x2, may put that on the tweeters. Then just pick up a solid 2-channel for the mids? Or sell the 201 and get a nice 4-channel for the front? Sell both amps I have, buy a JL 900/5... Buy a 2-channel, keep the sub amp, run tweeters off deck power? Oh decisions, decisions...
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Just got my set in last night. Pioneer 80PRS will be here tonight.

Debating on setup still... Really want a nice 5-channel to run the front stage active, plus a sub. I've noticed a few people running the tweets off of the deck power. Is this still a viable option, or has everyone moved on from that?
By deck power, you mean "MS-8" power, correct? Deck power can't be mixed with power after the MS-8 due to time delay that occurs at the MS-8. Just making sure you knew that.
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Deck power meaning head unit power. I don't have an MS-8 processor, the Pioneer deck will be doing my processing.
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Sorry about that, was reading the MS-8 thread then saw this post and responded too quickly. My bad!
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Well guys, you've reeled in another one. Ordered a pair from AAFES which means they might take a minute to arrive, but they're coming from Harmon directly.

Question is I have 2 4-channel amps I'll be installing: a Rockford P8004 and a PG Octane 5.0:4 as well as an Image Dynamics ID10 d4 in a sealed 0.5 cu ft enclosure. Which amp would you recommend me using on the comps and which on the ID10? Also looking for advice on bridged vs unbridged and 2 vs 8 ohms on the id10. Definitely looking for daily driver sq as the ultimate goal.
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Well guys, you've reeled in another one. Ordered a pair from AAFES which means they might take a minute to arrive, but they're coming from Harmon directly.

Question is I have 2 4-channel amps I'll be installing: a Rockford P8004 and a PG Octane 5.0:4 as well as an Image Dynamics ID10 d4 in a sealed 0.5 cu ft enclosure. Which amp would you recommend me using on the comps and which on the ID10? Also looking for advice on bridged vs unbridged and 2 vs 8 ohms on the id10. Definitely looking for daily driver sq as the ultimate goal.
Best to put as many details as you can on each amp. Detailed amp features and specs aren't common technical knowledge.

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The Rockford is more powerful and therefore good for more sub output and less likely to overheat. The sub is dual 4 ohm so you can bridge the amp to 2 channels where each channel goes to one 4ohm coil.

Then bridge the PG to go to the components.

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Specs (by request):

PG 5.0:4 at 14.4v
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125 x 4 @ 2ohms
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Rockford P8004 @ 14.4v
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I'm going to try to avoid wiring each vc to a bridged channel because I really dont want to mess up my ID10 if I don't properly match voltage on each channel. I'd rather go 8ohms on the sub and bridged to the amp or 2 ohms on the sub on a single channel.
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250 x 2 bridged @ 4

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200w x 4 @ 2 ohms
400w x 2 bridged
Unless you need a shit ton of bass, I'd do the RF on the components active, and the PG on the sub with each bridged channel on a coil. Basically the 2-amp equivalent of an HD900/5

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Unless you need a shit ton of bass, I'd do the RF on the components active, and the PG on the sub with each bridged channel on a coil. Basically the 2-amp equivalent of an HD900/5
Don't need a shit ton, that's for sure. My concern is running active on either amp. Looking at the crossover on those, I'd have to get a separate external crossover before I could go active. So plans right now are strictly passive so I can get a feel for what shortfalls are introduced by the passive xover that I can aim to correct going active.
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Here's another question, though. To run with each VC on a different channel, what precautions do I need to take? I'll be setting gains by DMM to match rated power for each component, but should I be taking something else into account to make sure that each voice coil is getting the exact same signal? Additionally, running the JBL comps passive, what should I be able to take my gains up to after break-in?
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Nope. Once you've level matched the channels you're good to go on the sub as long as both channels are getting the same signal so either make sure your HU/processor is sending a mono signal or use a y-adapter.

Don't worry about break-in. It's a myth and happens within minutes, at most.

What HU or processor are you running?

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Nope. Once you've level matched the channels you're good to go on the sub as long as both channels are getting the same signal so either make sure your HU/processor is sending a mono signal or use a y-adapter.

Don't worry about break-in. It's a myth and happens within minutes, at most.

What HU or processor are you running?
Pioneer AVH-P8400BH and that's it. Down the road, I plan to add either a Clarion MCD360 or JBL MS-8 but have to gain WAF on everything, so it'll be a while before I do any further processing. Unfortunately, the crossover points on the 8400 are nowhere near what they'd need to be to truly go active at this point, so passive is the only option. Once I get a little more free money, I plan to grab a MS-8 (they're 499 on AAFES atm, no tax).
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