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Just listened to mine again with the passive crossovers, but with a bit more juice

MUCH more impressed with how they sound, even more than before!

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Just listened to mine again with the passive crossovers, but with a bit more juice

MUCH more impressed with how they sound, even more than before!
Have you compared active to passive crossovers? I am think about trying an active setup so that I can experiment with it.
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I haven't tried it yet, don't really have the means to go active right now.

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I just bought these off ebay, $214 to my door!
I am replacing the stockers in a 2011 Sierra, rebuilding doors, sealing .
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The tweeter is going in the stock A-Piller location , so i am really hoping these inverted metal tweets ARE NOT harsh , I have always been a fan of soft dome and smooth highs...fingers crossed!
I was going to use Hybrid tech imagines , but running passive vs cost has the jbls favor, also thought about Audison volce av6 , but more cost again .
These Jbl ms62c have really great reviews and i havnt had a set of jbls since the 80s lol.
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I was thinking of putting the tweeters in the A post with this mount: A-Pillar Tweeter Pods - Custom Speaker Pods

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I would want to know what the other pod looked like and where exactly they point. They almost look like they would fit a sail panel too, but that might mess up the aim.

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I see what you're saying... I was thinking of mounting it with the surface mount it came with in the sail panel, but I have already cut holes in the A pillars, just to find out that my driver side is 2" deep while the passenger is less than inch. And at 200 bucks per pillar from gm, I'm just looking to find some other options. Where would/do you have yours mounted? or where would be the best direction to face them?
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Just listened to mine again with the passive crossovers, but with a bit more juice

MUCH more impressed with how they sound, even more than before!
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Best direction to face them is relative to other factors. There should be plenty of threads of tweeter facing/direction.

I bought a block of bass wood, which I will be carving to the shape of the sail panel then rounding over like the pods you linked. Mine will be pointed on axis.

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Yeah, I know, I've been reading... A LOT... So much stuff to learn, just wondering what your preferences were with these speakers in particular. Thanks for the reply and your carving project sounds pretty awesome!
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Went from 5 watts... to 50!

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Best direction to face them is relative to other factors. There should be plenty of threads of tweeter facing/direction.

I bought a block of bass wood, which I will be carving to the shape of the sail panel then rounding over like the pods you linked. Mine will be pointed on axis.
Have you sampled them on axis? Lots of these inverted metal domes seem to perform better slightly off axis in my experience.

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I have had them on axis for a few months, just held in place with Velcro. I don't find anything wrong with them, but I wonder if it is the best they can be. I figure the EQ can help me out here once I get to fine tuning a FR, but so far I have no complaints or listening fatigue from on axis.

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Grab a phone rta program. Very helpful. Try them firing up on the dash also

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I have had them on axis for a few months, just held in place with Velcro. I don't find anything wrong with them, but I wonder if it is the best they can be. I figure the EQ can help me out here once I get to fine tuning a FR, but so far I have no complaints or listening fatigue from on axis.
Its not a matter of them sounding "bad" on axis....they are not likely to offer a great deal of fatigue with mediocre eq capability either.......BUT if you put them a decent amount off axis (face them towards the rear view) I bet you your stage opens up a great deal!
Thats what they are made for! They are the "Softest" metal domes I have been around (these and the ppi pc series.....pretty similar actually)....sorry I know they are "hard domes" but the only way I can describe them is "softer" then most?

Anyone who has or has listened to them knows what I'm talking about!
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Would these make a good set for someone who primarily listens to metal/rock and some electronic (trance)? How do these stack up against the P660c?
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Went from 5 watts... to 50!
LMAO...i thought you were talking like 50 to 200 or something haha.

Yes they are good for metal, rock, electronic, country, rap, blues, you name it. One thing I have found with these speakers are that even though they offer up a lot of detail they are also quite forgiving on bad recordings. something I haven't had since I had morel's. they are so easy to use.

I have recently tried mine from off axis to on axis and then pointed up towards the middle of the car in front of the rear view and like rex said, they really open up the soundstage that way, although, i found that on axis they sound pretty much the same...but it could be car dependent.

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LMAO...i thought you were talking like 50 to 200 or something haha.

Yes they are good for metal, rock, electronic, country, rap, blues, you name it. One thing I have found with these speakers are that even though they offer up a lot of detail they are also quite forgiving on bad recordings. something I haven't had since I had morel's. they are so easy to use.

I have recently tried mine from off axis to on axis and then pointed up towards the middle of the car in front of the rear view and like rex said, they really open up the soundstage that way, although, i found that on axis they sound pretty much the same...but it could be car dependent.
They would be going in an 05 4runner. It's got factory locations for tweeters
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Are the factory locations in A pillar, sail panel, or door?
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Had the chance to compare them, one side the JBL set and the other side Hat Imagine set. Both sound good, although HAT's had a finer detail so jus decided to keep the HATs and time to sell the JBl's.
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You like the HAT's better??????

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Oh dear....not this again

Ok, YOU CANNOT get a valid listening experience doing one side one speaker other side the other speaker.....DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Not saying you will not end up with the same results....its subjective. But you cannot get a valid result that way. Install both (in a quality install) tune properly and then listen! Thats how it works.....
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Ok, YOU CANNOT get a valid listening experience doing one side one speaker other side the other speaker.....DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Not saying you will not end up with the same results....its subjective. But you cannot get a valid result that way. Install both (in a quality install) tune properly and then listen! Thats how it works.....
How about if you mix and match the x-overs and tweeters? j/k
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