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I won't be home for another 2.5 weeks. If things go as planned, I will have VERY little time to play with it before hitting the road for another three weeks. The n I'll be home for four days and might have a real chance to play with it.

That said, I spent a lot of time last week reading everything I could about APL Workshop, and I think the one thing missing is a step-by-step tutorial for the newbie.

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Right. It is not for newbees ....☺

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Dear friends,

Some words regarding an issue when the input of APL1 unit (digital or analog) is fed with FS signal level without any headroom.
It is impossible to use any equalizer on signal that has zero headroom.
Therefor you must add a headroom.
1) by reducing signal source (feeding APL1 input) output level if possible,
2) by reducing APL1 FIR filter overall gain. Two ways are possible a) by setting "EQ zero level" to some negative value, -6 dB for example, b) by use of level slider of C1 tool

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That'd be great!

I work with some pretty complex electronics(jumbotrons) so I'm sure I'd figure it out. It would probably also help clear up some the confusion people have about what to buy and what does what too.

FWIW, It took me just a few minutes to figure out TDA, but it's much simpler than Workshop.

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Does anyone have any experience EQing HLCDs with APL1? Any special considerations to be taken?
Wonder how it would work out.
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I'll be finding out when I get the time to install mine.

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I'll be recording a video the coming week, I'm in the middle of a large job right now. I'll try to include as much as possible ^^

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Hanatsu, do you have experience with 2 subs (or 4 way) and APL?

I have the best summing on left when I invert one on the dsp (strange because they're both in rear seats).
I left it normal while measuring with APL thinking it will fix it.
But no it's still better after the filter if I reverse it myself again.

I'll try L+R instead of L/R on both sub inputs.

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I'll be recording a video the coming week, I'm in the middle of a large job right now. I'll try to include as much as possible ^^
Thanks man. Much appreciated

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Hanatsu, do you have experience with 2 subs (or 4 way) and APL?

I have the best summing on left when I invert one on the dsp (strange because they're both in rear seats).
I left it normal while measuring with APL thinking it will fix it.
But no it's still better after the filter if I reverse it myself again.

I'll try L+R instead of L/R on both sub inputs.
No, can't say I do. I will install a raspberry pi in my Car later and will use APL for all channels instead, then I will learn...

I think you should bypass sub and run them off the c-dsp only in the meantime. The SPFR method combined with 4096 taps limits the resolution in the lowest octaves. Good news is that the lower octaves are very easy to tune, it only requires a single measurement point and the response is valid over a pretty large space.

You can change the resolution in Workshop to get better accuracy in lower frequencies if you wanna use it as measurement software.

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Good idea thx!
I tried 25/50/100 ms but it impacts mostly the highs.
It will be definitely be easier if I go back to 4 small subs everywhere.

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Ah not the window length, I meant the fft size.


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Hum, is it the filter setting box? I don't remember something like that.
Or maybe TDAeq could be useful there.

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You should, what a video can do in a few minutes takes hours to type out and post.

By end of week I will post a review of the minidsp 2x4hd for everyone.
I'm definitely going to do a video, with 7kids and full time job I just simply don't have the time to do a write up. Although it would be nice if I did , like the apl1 it really needs to be known how much of a diffrance a good fir filter set can do for all of us.

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I've recorded much of the video. I need to edit and some stuff as well. Not home tomorrow, gonna drive across half the country to buy me an ATV so I'll probably have it done by Thursday/Friday

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Perfect, I leave either tomorrow or the next morning for work and won't be back until the end of the month. That'll give me plenty of time to watch and rewatch your video!

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I work with some pretty complex electronics(jumbotrons) so I'm sure I'd figure it out. It would probably also help clear up some the confusion people have about what to buy and what does what too.

FWIW, It took me just a few minutes to figure out TDA, but it's much simpler than Workshop.
Do you work FOH or a line rigger or what? Sounds kinda fun

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I'm an LED video tech, I work on and manage the LPGA tour. I setup and run the big video screens for about half of the North American tournaments, I remotely assist the tech on the other half of the tournaments. I'm at the Walmart Championship right now.

When this tour slows down I go work other tournaments. The other tournaments start with LED screens and can include audio for the media centers, CCTV and other live entertainment.

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Haven't forgot about the the vid for you who wonder

I didn't manage to finish the video before my vacation. I'm home on Monday again, I just have some editing left. I'll probably split it into two parts.

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Haven't forgot about the the vid for you who wonder

I didn't manage to finish the video before my vacation. I'm home on Monday again, I just have some editing left. I'll probably split it into two parts.
Very cool, take your time and make sure you're happy with it. However it turns out I will very grateful.
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