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I just bought brumledb's APL1 so I'll need to buy the software soon. I know I need the APL Workshop software but I'm confused by the APL TDA and APL TDA EQ software. Which of the second two is needed to be purchased and what is the difference between the two?
No need for anything else than "workshop".
TDA is nice to have because it's easy to use to optimize TA for ex, but not necessary.
TDA eq, that I never used, seems to be able to export fir filters as well.
But not based on the power response, so more like a regular "auto" tune.
Would be curious to hear the difference though.

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Just watched the video, and the second linked: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewxv8yLxxbg
Sure it would be nice to get translation! I'll see if I can ask one colleague.
It gives an idea of the "painting" method.
Also they seem to go with "coneq" directly.

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No need for anything else than "workshop".
TDA is nice to have because it's easy to use to optimize TA for ex, but not necessary.
TDA eq, that I never used, seems to be able to export fir filters as well.
But not based on the power response, so more like a regular "auto" tune.
Would be curious to hear the difference though.
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Can anyone explain the difference between the 3 tuning software versions you can buy on there website?
I see the normal APL workshop, the APL TDA end the APL TDA EQ software...

And which would give the best results?
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Can anyone explain the difference between the 3 tuning software versions you can buy on there website?
I see the normal APL workshop, the APL TDA end the APL TDA EQ software...

And which would give the best results?
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Yes, "APL Workshop" is basic measurement and correction filter (equalizer) syntheses program to use with APL1 unit or EP1 VST plagin.
The APL TDA software is for "pre eq" tuning - to set up correctly crossover unit, its delays and to "see" harmonic distortion curves.
The APL TDA EQ software is using TDA process to create EQ but with much less measurement points as Workshop. It is intended to tune up a near field performance of studio monitors or any speakers in near field application and closely to speaker`s axes.

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I'm interested also, but not until i think i'm up to tuning it, OR i could pay someone local to walk me through it.
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Feel free to ask support from me! All my customers are far from me and I am very trained to use Skype and TeamViewer for that : )))
And have nice results : )
I apologize if this has been covered already. I am trying to see what the TDA trial is on the website. I downloaded the zip as well as whatever the newest MCR runtime is. After installing both. I dont get a EXE file or an icon or anything. Im not sure what im supposed to be doing to run the software. Do i need to have the actual mathlab or matlab software or what am i missing?
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I apologize if this has been covered already. I am trying to see what the TDA trial is on the website. I downloaded the zip as well as whatever the newest MCR runtime is. After installing both. I dont get a EXE file or an icon or anything. Im not sure what im supposed to be doing to run the software. Do i need to have the actual mathlab or matlab software or what am i missing?
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Just go to the folder that the installation created, inside you will have the .exe file

and for the MCR, don't use the newest, use the 8.1

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Im running a windows 10 computer and if i try to run the 8.1 compiler version. I get a error message saying "this version is not compatible", if i run a newer 2016 version, i get a cannot find 8.1 version .dll.


so...is there no way to run the TDA software on windows 10?

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Just go to the folder that the installation created, inside you will have the .exe file

and for the MCR, don't use the newest, use the 8.1
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Im running a windows 10 computer and if i try to run the 8.1 compiler version. I get a error message saying "this version is not compatible", if i run a newer 2016 version, i get a cannot find 8.1 version .dll.


so...is there no way to run the TDA software on windows 10?
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try to download the 64bit version (both for the TDA and MCR 8.1), cause most of the windows 10 runs in this enviroment

now I am running TDA in Windows 10

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Here is some discussion ...
JBL's MS-8 processor!

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Here is some discussion ...
JBL's MS-8 processor!
Im not sure that goes where you think it does. Link goes to guy talking about his 94 bmw?

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Here is some discussion ...
JBL's MS-8 processor!
Nvm. Must be a tapatalk error. For anyone on tapatalk. The link goes to the jbl-ms8 thread

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APL processing on Android devices.

The world of mini PC and Android is developing and its computing power as well. The APL also goes further and starts its Android era. Everyone who uses Android now can also use the APL product with all its high quality and significant options. The APL–Android compatibility pack is already here for customers. It provides a way to implement the APL`s processing into any Android device. The sound quality stays the same as it is when the APL equalizer unit is being used with some new options available.

The APL tools and solutions are mostly developed for professionals and are used by sound specialists that is why they require some professional skills. And it would be a good idea to ask about tuning and setup service to someone who knows the nuances. It may be a APL representative or our client who is around and already uses the APL tools.

Car sound enthusiasts are very important customers because the car sound environment is most challenging and Android devices have become a very popular media source for car.

The APL has a lot of experience doing detailed loudspeaker corrections and working with the most demanding professionals. Our first public presentation was in 2006 at San Francisco AES convention. We showed the world that it was possible to tune the sound of various loudspeakers to the same reference.

Please contact us, our representatives or our customers to see how it works and how APL products can suit exactly to your needs!

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Meaning what exactly? Are you talking about plugging in your phone to your apl1 hardware instead of a laptop?

The Dirac and IIR/Fir filters needs the powerful shark processor that I think(?) Is far more powerful than what is in todays phones. Idk howd you make it a phone app only. How is this being implemented? Take measurements and processing is done on a mainframe and sent back to the phone?

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Today`s mini PCs, tablets and carPCs are capable to process not only 2 channels of APL FIR processing with their 4 core, 1.8GHz processors.
You still must use ordinary PC with Workshop software to make the measurement and generate filter files. Than you can use that filters in Android device to process playback.

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Is there also an version for the iPhone on it's way?
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Today`s mini PCs, tablets and carPCs are capable to process not only 2 channels of APL FIR processing with their 4 core, 1.8GHz processors.
You still must use ordinary PC with Workshop software to make the measurement and generate filter files. Than you can use that filters in Android device to process playback.
How is this going to be priced as the apl1 hardware itself is quite expensive. Is this going to be an app that lets you play your music as well as bypassing many of the bad android internal DACS all while doing apl processing? Is it gonna be aux out or usb out?

Should I just shut up and wait for more info?

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APL processing on Android devices.

The world of mini PC and Android is developing and its computing power as well. The APL also goes further and starts its Android era. Everyone who uses Android now can also use the APL product with all its high quality and significant options. The APL–Android compatibility pack is already here for customers. It provides a way to implement the APL`s processing into any Android device. The sound quality stays the same as it is when the APL equalizer unit is being used with some new options available.

The APL tools and solutions are mostly developed for professionals and are used by sound specialists that is why they require some professional skills. And it would be a good idea to ask about tuning and setup service to someone who knows the nuances. It may be a APL representative or our client who is around and already uses the APL tools.

Car sound enthusiasts are very important customers because the car sound environment is most challenging and Android devices have become a very popular media source for car.

The APL has a lot of experience doing detailed loudspeaker corrections and working with the most demanding professionals. Our first public presentation was in 2006 at San Francisco AES convention. We showed the world that it was possible to tune the sound of various loudspeakers to the same reference.

Please contact us, our representatives or our customers to see how it works and how APL products can suit exactly to your needs!
Interesting news!
I have few droid’s phones at work that I could try.
Is there any tuning feature in this app, for on the fly?

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The solution for iPhone is not so far.

The Android solution is intended to be an economy class solution. It is replacing APL1 unit
It is for free for Workshop`s clients for two places of installation.

The original DACs of Android device should be bypassed by use of HDMI digital audio output part as first idea.
MiniPCs and tablets have it. CarPCs should also have.

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Pretty cool Raimonds! Nice foward thinking.

Maybe a tablet with my Song GS9 would be a complete solution...
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The solution for iPhone is not so far.

The Android solution is intended to be an economy class solution. It is replacing APL1 unit
It is for free for Workshop`s clients for two places of installation.

The original DACs of Android device should be bypassed by use of HDMI digital audio output part as first idea.
MiniPCs and tablets have it. CarPCs should also have.


Yes!
Yes nice step! I'll contact you
Is there potential for more than 2 channels with hdmi?

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Is there potential for more than 2 channels with hdmi?
Yes of course : ) There is potential for more than 2 channels!
I would like to see some voting to understand how many supporters APL will have in such direction ...

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Yes of course : ) There is potential for more than 2 channels!
I would like to see some voting to understand how many supporters APL will have in such direction ...
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