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Holeeeey shiite.....this thing is fan-freaking-tabulous! I ain't lying boys....this is straight easy once you get through the software hurdles...lol. I just bested my best tune over several years time........in like half an hour.......and this is my first time using it! Jeez.....thanks Raimonds, what a killer device/software combo! Thanks as well to lumberman for the walk thru.......I've never had such left to right precision.....wow, I'm speachless......this is cheating.........

Btw, hats off as well for whomever is responsible for the mp1 curve.......it's tight, real tight!
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Ok.....so I'm excited......but damn, I mean I had my doubts......I don't know what all this thing is doing with the signal, but it flat works, no shit. I hadn't heard from anyone on here running a "full" system with this thing.....I mean Hanatsu used it in a simpler setup, the most vocal dood used it in a passive setup, lumberman used stock speakers on head unit power.......mine isn't like any of those.......full three way front, morel tweets, 5.5" revelator mids on the dash, 10s in the doors, and a pair of 8" w7s.......so I was hesitant on being the first all out guinea pig on a full system, but damn......I'm not disappointed one bit.......phenomenal work Raimonds!
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Ok....I'm gonna take a step back, and offer that it's late, and those are strictly first impressions....lol. Give me another day or so for some listening broken up into multiple sessions.......and I'll definitely report back with some more information.......initial impression is blown away tho....can't deny that, hell just look at the previous two posts.....lol. I wasn't in the car for long......so hopefully the impressions stick!
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I am using apl with 3 way passive front in 3 years. Never regret purchase of the apl technology. Now I have OT everywere. Home stereo, earphones, tablets and Android smartphone. When I started first thread on apl in 2014, nobody believed me. Apl has really change my mind. It is great!

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Holeeeey shiite.....this thing is fan-freaking-tabulous! I ain't lying boys....this is straight easy once you get through the software hurdles...lol. I just bested my best tune over several years time........in like half an hour.......and this is my first time using it! Jeez.....thanks Raimonds, what a killer device/software combo! Thanks as well to lumberman for the walk thru.......I've never had such left to right precision.....wow, I'm speachless......this is cheating.........
Your build thread brought me here! Looking forward to another demo on the Cobalt in a few weeks time.

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What Raimonds suggests is an app called Viper4android, which comprises an convolver capable to work with the 7files made from measurements carried out by the Workshop.

So you do not need apl1 box in a car, if you have android based head unit or smartphone as a source.
So, this now has me very interested. I have a Nexus 7 in a fixed install in my car. Currently using a USB-DAC and optical into the DSP. Am I right in that I need to use the APL software to take measurements, then to use the Viper4Android app on my tablet to interpret those measurements? Anything I need to also do with the DSP? I have TA and EQ set, but am interested in seeing how much further I can take the tune.

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You will have 4096 taps with Android device and without hardware (apl1 box)

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The best is to use TDA APL software for TA.

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Ian, I'm looking forward to letting ya hear it! It's a slick solution to gremlins I've been fighting for a loooong time.......sorry, but I know nothing about the plug in deal for android.
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Okay, I've spent more time in the car now, and I'm still impressed with what the apl can do......I've just started using the selector switch, and it's so much fun to be able to switch between curves in real time, it's almost instant!
Just switching between the preset curves right now, I'm soon to experiment making my own curves, this is going to get interesting fo sho......having lots of fun with this unit!
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Claydo, How is going? Have you made some more tests with apl? It is possible to check how apl is approaching the target curve. Let say strait line for the whole frequency range. Then MP1...

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It's going rather well, still finalizing the mount for the multi switch, and other than that I've been just enjoying the sounds! I've strayed from mp1 a bit, and I'm working on my own personal curves......so far I've been touching up the tonality for my tastes with the 99 before the apl unit, but as soon as I figure out getting the parametric eq in c1 to save as target, I'm going to leave the eq duties strictly within the apl unit. Still impressed, this thing is awesome! I don't know how it does what it does, but it corrects a lot more than just the response.....
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It is easy to confirm by using TDA APL program: with apl1 and bypassing it. Correct, it does much more than usual frequency response EQ. Try this option.

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I haven't ran any tda measurements in a while......I will eventually, but for now I'm focused on making my own curve presets......
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OK. Right, but it is interesting

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Yes, it is....I purchased the tda software a ways back and it's a great tool.....once I get time I'll definitely run a with apl/without tda measurement to see how much it has changed things! I also want to run some individual driver tda sweeps (something I saw raimonds recommend) to see if any driver in particular has room for physical improvements as well.....
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Do not forget to check how your preset fits to the desired curve. One more Workshop measurement is needed for this purpose.

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What I really want to do is make a curve in c1 and save it, then use it as a target in apl workshop....haven't gotten this far yet, but it is my goal.......
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Ok, guys, Raimonds sent me an excellent email about different ways to program your own curve via parametric eq in c1, and it works beautifully! There is more than one way to do it, but for simplicity and comparison/tweaking I've been using the option to write the curve in c1 save it as a text file, send it to the preset folder in apl workshop "data" and then apply the different curves before I "calculate" on my base "corrected" measurements.......once you figure out you must place your data file into the preset folder to get it to work, it's awesome......allows quick tuning to different curves off of one set of measurements, by simply changing the preset on your corrected file and then re-calculating..........and with the preset switch, you can load up to 15 of these curves..........I LOVE IT!!!
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Wait till yer demo and ya see the fun of the "curve" swapping in action! Lol, it's very interesting to hear the differences in real time, but I noticed when you do this the new curve sounds very strange........it actually sounds better if ya drop the volume when swapping and take in the curve as a whole, instead of concentrating on the changes.........it's kinda an odd phenomenon......
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Wait till yer demo and ya see the fun of the "curve" swapping in action! Lol, it's very interesting to hear the differences in real time, but I noticed when you do this the new curve sounds very strange........it actually sounds better if ya drop the volume when swapping and take in the curve as a whole, instead of concentrating on the changes.........it's kinda an odd phenomenon......

Awesome! Yeah that actually makes great sense that you'd probably want to mute it even very low volume during the change, so you're perceiving just tonality rather than what changed.


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