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Default Audio Development ESA Bass & Vipera F6

A short review of the Audio Development ESA Bass & Vipera F6 midbass speakers:

Before using the AD speakers, I had a pair of Dynaudio 650s in each door powered by a Brax Matrix MX4 with two channels bridged to each pair. They were in a 3-way setup with a band pass of around 80-450 Hz.

In a quest for increased low-end midbass with the special requirement of maintaining composure at high volume levels, and after discussing my goal with Jerry Niebur of High Definition Mobile Audio and Emilios Mandalios of Audio Excellent, I first purchased a pair of the Vipera F6.

The F6 has a Xmax listed as plus or minus 13mm. It definitely provided the low-end midbass I was looking for, and performed very well at high volume levels with a high pass as low as 55-60 Hz. It is, however, more of a subwoofer than a true midbass, and was not as detailed and articulate as the 650.

I then decided to try the AD ESA Bass which is more of a true midbass. Immediately after installing them, I noticed the return of the detail I had with the 650. The ESA was smooth and articulate and very comparable - if not better than - the 650 in the 80-450 Hz range. Below 80 Hz, I feel like the ESA produces more output with more control at high volume levels. I currently have them on a high pass of 65 Hz.

The face of the ESA and F6 look very similar. The ESA is on the right at the front of the door, the F6 on the left. Sorry I don't have any pics of the rear of the speakers right now to post.

The ESA and F6 are currently on the same channel. I know this is not ideal, but they actually sound quite good this way after some tuning with a Helix DSP Pro. I hope to run a 4-way setup soon with each on its own channel.
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Great review of fantastic speakers.

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I cannot find a website for Audio Development. Is there one?

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I cannot find a website for Audio Development. Is there one?

You can download their catalog here:
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Default Re: Audio Development ESA Bass & Vipera F6

I don't think the ESA Bass is in their catalog. Here is some info I have on it.
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Sounds like you need a sub that can play higher
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Sounds like you need a sub that can play higher
I currently have two IDMAX 15s in a vented push-pull enclosure band-passed at 27 - 80 Hz. They have a reputation for performing very well at higher frequencies and that has been my experience as well.

The primary issue was at high volume levels. I like to listen to music often at very high volume. The 650s are great, but in my opionion, they just don't perform as well at the very higher volume levels like the ADs do, and the ESA Bass may actually sound a little better than the 650 in some aspects at lower volume levels as well.
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How much do the ESAs cost?
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Fan of the W series, in fact I have a pair of the 5 1/4's still uninstalled and waiting for a good excuse to use them.

edit: called the "100 series"

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The ESA Bass (6.5") drivers run $1299/pair.

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The ESA Bass (6.5") drivers run $1299/pair.
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Default Re: Audio Development ESA Bass & Vipera F6

Yeah, far out of my range too. But AD's lower end is still amazing. Neibur, share the going rates of the lower lines if you don't mind.

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Yeah, far out of my range too. But AD's lower end is still amazing. Neibur, share the going rates of the lower lines if you don't mind.
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Edit: Damn, it didn't work. Let me try again.

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It should be there now.
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I will admit to you now, I much-preferred the price I paid used (partially used) from a fellow DIYMA member. They are nice but I'd have a hard time with W600's costing in the $500's.

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Holy crap! TWO F6s in the doors! Those are some seriously impressive speakers and just one set in my Audi slammed hard and with a heavily deadened door still would flex the outer skin.

Great speakers. Thanks for the review.

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Default Re: Audio Development ESA Bass & Vipera F6

Curious about both of these drivers... leaning towards the F6's for MB duty now.. was going to do an 8", but going to stick with the 6.5" size...

I have owned both the E650 and GB60 drivers, as well as a few others that are comparable...

I felt the E650 was definitely lacking in the midbass frequencies compared to the GB60's..

For this reason I will likely go back to GB60's, but I'm really intrigued by the F6's. I guess I will just have to get a pair and try them out... I'm sure the detail and tonal accuracy is likely similar between the GB and the Vipera line, but I'll have a bit more oomph, especially in the 55-200hZ area... I'd be running them from 50-400 or so... still uncertain about keeping them IB in my doors or having a custom sealed enclosure fabbed up for them there...

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