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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

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Anybody have the TR-7, P1 and W505? I'm curious if the TR-7 would elimanate the Nav lock out or if that's a spped sensor thing.
I have it, but wont be able to fully install it until Sunday.

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Anybody have the TR-7, P1 and W505? I'm curious if the TR-7 would elimanate the Nav lock out or if that's a spped sensor thing.

I'd like to get the P1 within the next 2 weeks before a quick trip down the cost to Newport Or, but unless someone buys my Oz ME12's or my 1.1000 I won't have the funds

TR-7 has no effect on the Nav lockout, its all speed based via the ant...however, lockout is only from the setup menu. Should you want to enter an address while driving, simply clicking the OK on the message allows you access while for setup, clicking ok brings you back to your original screen.


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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

Thanks. I figured it would use speed sensors.

Hmm, so the unit doesn't do traffic updates?

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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

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So, why is Veloze using it???



Are either of you having issues with voice prompts since you're not using it?

(No traffic updates with this Nav.)


Tested voice prompts today.


Made sure I had them turned on via the Nav setup menu and enetered a location nearby.

Results indicated voice prompts were not active, nor interupted the current source activated. So no go appartently without the 900e.

What source/manual indicates this? I mean, I really never liked voice prompts, but to not have a feature after a $300 dollar purchase on top of needed to reinstall/rerun chords....yikes

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So, why is Veloze using it???



Are either of you having issues with voice prompts since you're not using it?
Yo guys!!, this is why you need the 900e. Let's you are in the NAV feature, and you are navigating to a location (type address, yada, yada), you would hear the voice prompts indicating where you going, this happens at any time as long as you using the NAV source, whether you have a processor or not.

But, let say you are using the CD player or iPod to listen your tunes, but you are still navigating to a location, and then you wanna go back to the NAV screen, now you press the "visual" button to go to the NAV screen. (At this time you listening music and you have the map screen in front of you).

If you have a processor connected to the HU & don't have the 900e, the music will be interrupted, and would not hear any of the voice prompts for shit.

This module would allow for the voice prompts signal to go thru the processor to your NAV/HU. Do I make myself clear this time?

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(No traffic updates with this Nav.)


Tested voice prompts today.


Made sure I had them turned on via the Nav setup menu and enetered a location nearby.

Results indicated voice prompts were not active, nor interupted the current source activated. So no go appartently without the 900e.

What source/manual indicates this? I mean, I really never liked voice prompts, but to not have a feature after a $300 dollar purchase on top of needed to reinstall/rerun chords....yikes

Maybe a stupid question, but have you gone through the input configuration on the head unit to ensure that the nav audio input is switched on? It seems like something that would be activated automatically but obviously we can't assume such things with Alpine.
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Yo guys!!, this is why you need the 900e. Let's you are in the NAV feature, and you are navigating to a location (type address, yada, yada), you would hear the voice prompts indicating where you going, this happens at any time as long as you using the NAV source, whether you have a processor or not.

But, let say you are using the CD player or iPod to listen your tunes, but you are still navigating to a location, and then you wanna go back to the NAV screen, now you press the "visual" button to go to the NAV screen. (At this time you listening music and you have the map screen in front of you).

If you have a processor connected to the HU & don't have the 900e, the music will be interrupted, and would not hear any of the voice prompts for shit.

This module would allow for the voice prompts signal to thru the processor to your NAV. Do I make myself clear this time?
I think I get it - the HU by default will INTERRUPT music for audio prompts from NAV but the 900e will MIX the outputs from your music and the nav unit?
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Yup...music is interuppted, but no voice prompts follow.

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Do I make myself clear this time?
Totally.
It's just another of those Alpine "intelligent" moves.
Alpine, if you design a gps to dock only in one HU, would it be too much to ask to make it actually work?

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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

Watching this thread with interest.

Great review.

The KCE-900E is only necessary when using the AI-Net optical cable and H701 processor?
This is the eventual setup I'm aiming for, but was thinking of running the W505 and NVE-P1 with my passive setup first before going active.
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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

Any updates as to how well the navigation works? perhaps compared to the garmin or tomtom handhelds?
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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

Is this unit just a blackbird2 without a screen or is it drastically improved?
All the pro reviews of the BB2 say to stay away, but I haven't found any professional reviews on the P1 yet.

The PND-K3 is supposed to be great, but has terrible battery life.... Poor alpine, if only they would just steal from the competitors like most of the other nav providers.

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Is this unit just a blackbird2 without a screen or is it drastically improved?
All the pro reviews of the BB2 say to stay away, but I haven't found any professional reviews on the P1 yet.

I'm curious about this too - everyone says the BB2 docked in the 505 produces a low-res display output and I haven't seen anywhere if the P1 works at 505 resolution or, if, as you suggested, it's just a BB2 without a screen.
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I had both the bb2 and p1 and they were both very similar as far as resolution...i got rid of the alpine unit becasue if this...i just couldent get with alpines nav and bluetooth...although with that said i now have the 8120 aand have gripes with it to...maybe im just to damn picky...lol
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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

I just bought the 505 and I'm thinking of getting the P1. Will I get the voice prompts with the audio interrupt in that set up? I'm not going to be running any processors at this time, just straight HU to amps. This is a make or break point for the P1 in my eyes.
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.Will I get the voice prompts with the audio interrupt in that set up? I'm not going to be running any processors at this time, just straight HU to amps.
Absolutely, with that setup you'll get the NAV prompts. Just make sure you turn on that feature on the HU & the P1. But, iif you decide down the road to add a processor then you gonna need the 900E module.

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Here is my 2 cents worth. I bought the W505-P1 with the NVE-P1 Nav. Granted I probably got taken to the cleaners through the audio shop that I used. My installed price with all of my options was over $2K. The unit was purchased, back ordered, and installed late March 2009.

The antennae for the NVE-P1 was installed under my padded dash and seems to be working well. No problems there.

The maps are grossly out of date and my understanding is that there are no updates currently available or in the near future. I have also become frustrated from once you set a destination and get into the trip and subsequently find that the directions are wrong, you can not easily turn off the navigation. At least I have not found a way. Even powering the unit off and back on, it remembers and continues with the same destination. This is extremely annoying when traveling a new highway that the unit does not know exists and it keeps wanting you to change direction.

My personal opinion is that if you are wanting a good nav unit, you will be better off with a portable unit until Alpine gets their act together. I have a Garmin and it is heads above this unit that I just paid a high price for. I would even be willing to buy DVD updates from another source if Alpine would make the interface work.
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So there are no updates for the P1 available?
I tried to connect it via usb, but it asked for a driver that I could
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So there are no updates for the P1 available?
I tried to connect it via usb, but it asked for a driver that I could
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Nope, no updates. Really is a raw deal when you figure that you are paying big bucks for a supposedly state of the art unit. And for some reason, these things are flying off the shelves. go figure....
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By the way, if you do come across a driver, maybe we can find another aftermarket nav supplier that would work.

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Default Re: Alpine NVE-P1 Navigation Introduction/Review Part One

Any updates on this?

I'm about to jump in on this for my W505, but with these feelings, I might as well buy a Nuvi or something. =(

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Honestly, my hand held Garmin Nuvi is much more accurate. And I am getting more and more aggravated with the fact that once I set a destination and find that it is way off, I can't turn the Nav off. So it is continually repeating for me to go in a direction that I know I do not want to go! The dealer told me the only way to turn it off is to stop the car and erase the location from memory. Like I really want to do that when traveling because when I get to that city, I do want to actually find the place! Frustrated? You bet!

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wow just saw this post and that is so cool that youd take the tiem to go through and show all the screen shots woulda made my life a whole lot easier when I was selling them....

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about turning off your GPS.... i have not found a way to turn it off but what ihave found when i realize that it has me going the wrong way or if im just done using it you can go into the screen where u input the destination just delete the route.... takes about 5 sec to do... just my 2 cents.... and also i called Alpine about 2 weeks ago and they told me to watch their website in the next month or 2 for an update... so its not an exact day but give me something to look forward to...
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Man is that good news to hear! I will keep watch.

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