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Default 4" Midrange Comparison Shootout - Dyn, Scan, Hat, More

This all started with Lycan posting a technical comparison of the HAT L4's vs the Scan Speak 12M (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...-scan-12m.html). From the direction of that thread, I am going to be conducting a Subjective listening comparison of these and many other 4" midrange drivers.

Here is a list of the drivers/members involved in the test:

Scan Speak 12M (Lycan)
HAT L4 (BidRed)
Dynaudio 430 (Niebur3) - Tester
Vifa NE123 (Niebur3) - Tester
Morel CDM54 (Remeolb) - Tester
Morel CDM88 - (Remeolb)Tester
and what ever else BidRed is sending

We also have Bikinpunk sending testing equipment and Kizz as a Tester. If anyone else wants to be involved, let me know. I am in Omaha, NE (centrally located for anyone!).

It also looks like H-Audio will be sending some Trinity's for testing.

We have 5-6 people right now confirmed for the listening and will be doing both blind and non-blind testing (see if brand/price does cause a bias). It will be a controlled environment and I will try to do a sealed and IB as well as on/off axis. Hopefully we will be able incorporate it all.

Right now, we have a request for DLS Iridium if anyone wants to put them up against the domes in this test. This is probably going to be a pretty extensive test!


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4" Midrange Comparison Shootout. RESULTS Thread!

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Default Re: 4" Midrange Comparison Shootout - Dyn, Scan, Hat, More

Once all the drivers arrive and are ready to test I'll send out the WT3.

I do suggest that you keep track of what's what when you run the tests. You can save the results as one large file and have up to 20 memory slots (like trueRTA), and if you do this, you may forget what was what, so keep a notebook handy.
This will allow you to show all the drivers' impedance plots against each other, or a few, or one.
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Awesome...thanks Bikinpunk....I will contact you for help with the software if needed.

We just had more offered for testing (thanks Jimbno1):
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Default Re: 4" Midrange Comparison Shootout - Dyn, Scan, Hat, More

I know it's a bit off topic but would someone, you, or maybe Lycan be interested in testing/listening to a pair of Helix RS-208 2.5"-3" midranges? I am VERY interested in finding out a bit more both from the objective and subjective sides. I will send them to a willing (and trusted) party to fool around with. someone LMK if interested. Below is very liimited PDF of the driver specs. PM me to LMK, or email to benjamin2180 [at] gmail dot com. I like the the interest and curiosity that Lycan has brought out and just want to contribute in what ever way I am able. Thanks all.

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Niebur, I sent you a PM regarding shipping costs...

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I know it's a bit off topic but would someone, you, or maybe Lycan be interested in testing/listening to a pair of Helix RS-208 2.5"-3" midranges? I am VERY interested in finding out a bit more both from the objective and subjective sides. I will send them to a willing (and trusted) party to fool around with. someone LMK if interested. Below is very liimited PDF of the driver specs. PM me to LMK, or email to benjamin2180 [at] gmail dot com. I like the the interest and curiosity that Lycan has brought out and just want to contribute in what ever way I am able. Thanks all.

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I can do the subject listening against the others and some basic measurements if you want to send them...just pay return shipping!
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Wow! Thanks guys! Looks like a great thread in the making.
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Maybe just set up a paypal for people to donate into for return shipping costs. I know I'd be happy to chip in $10 to help with return shipping for yourself.

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Maybe just set up a paypal for people to donate into for return shipping costs. I know I'd be happy to chip in $10 to help with return shipping for yourself.
Here you go....if you want to donate, please send the money to jjniebur2@aol.com as a "gift" and I will use it for return shipping costs. Thanks for all your guys' help with this!
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very very cool. looking forward to this comparison since changing my domes is next on my list.

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The Dayton RS100 is a forum favorite and I'd be happy to send you mine and chip in for return shipping. They've done well in previous midrange comparisons and are priced a bit differently than most of those listed already.

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The Dayton RS100 is a forum favorite and I'd be happy to send you mine and chip in for return shipping. They've done well in previous midrange comparisons and are priced a bit differently than most of those listed already.
Send it along, and we will try it.

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I am almost tempted to send in my hl70

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Wow! This is going to be some test! We learned a lot of things from the first two rounds of out subwoofer shootout. This is going to be a tough test for you guys because so much of how a mid will sound depends on how it integrates with both the midbass and the tweeter. At least with the sub we only had to worry about midbass integration. Are you planning to test the mids by themselves or in a full system? I can't wait...

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this is going to be sick! im in the market for a 4" mid! too bad no TB 4" Bamboo
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What day do I need to have the mids there??? I am currently thinking of getting the cdm88s to replace my hl70s so it would be nice to hear a comparison and how low can the cdm88 go vs hl70 and power handling.

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What day do I need to have the mids there??? I am currently thinking of getting the cdm88s to replace my hl70s so it would be nice to hear a comparison and how low can the cdm88 go vs hl70 and power handling.
The 88's are definitely in and I just found out the 54 are in question and looking like they wont be in unless someone wants to send some. If you are looking to send the hl70's, I would say you have at least 1 1/2 weeks, maybe more. I will update as the drivers are coming in.
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