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Default Exodus EX-Anarchy Midwoofer

Last weekend, I installed a pair of the Exodus EX-Anarchy midwoofers in my doors. No one has really mentioned anything about these drivers and I thought I'd provide some personal impressions and non-scientific feedback. There seems to be a lot of tech jargon associated with these drivers such as an XBL motor (?), aerodynamic design of the spider/pole assembly, etc. If someone could provide some more info as to what these pieces of tech actually do, I'd really appreciate it. I did some reading about the XBL motor, but could only find "sales-ish" documentation about it basically stating it was the next coming of Jesus. I'd love some independent feedback on what the XBL motor acutally is along with its benefits.

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These were on an introductory special for $45 each, and have since gone up in price to $70 each. I still feel that they are a very good value at the $70 price point.

I chose these basically because of their high x-max characteristics, with the expectation of using them only as midbasses playing up to ~ 600hz. I was basically looking for an alternative to shoehorning an 8inch midbass into my doors, but still upgrading my midbass performance. I was not concerned with the ability for it to play any higher than 1khz at the most. When I was running 2-way, I used the Seas reed drivers, which had exceptional performance when crossed as high as 2khz with a 12db slope, but did not have the midbass performance I wanted.

The Anarchy midwoofers are on the medium/large size, but had no problem fitting in my doors unlike the Tang-Band underhung mids that I was forced to return. I mounted them to 3/4th inch MDF baffles, and used foam weatherstripping between the baffles and the doors and the driver and the baffle. The drivers themselves also had a built in foam strip, which was a nice touch.

They are running as part of a 3-way, mated with Hybrid L3's and L1v2's. I am using a JL HD900/5 bridged to push these guys. They handle Power VERY VERY well. I was impressed by the lack of motor noise when testing them with low tones, even when they are reaching high excursion. I experimented with several different crossover settings, until I settled on 63hz @ 18db for now.

I am really enjoying these drivers in my 3-way. They have massive amounts of articulate midbass and the lower crossover point has brought my bass very far forward. Basslines have very good detail, and drums have more "chest-al" impact. I have listened to them at medium-high levels, and feel that this crossover point is manageable for the driver to handle. They remained very clean and without any noticeable amount of distortion or coloration. I think that if you are planning on going for very high listening levels, you may want to bump it up to 80-100hz.

For those of you with 2-ways, I tested them a bit by bumping them up to 2khz and 2.5khz to see how they performed. They were acceptable at 2khz with a steep slope, but I cannot recommend them for use at 2.5khz. The breakup was very noticeable, and was not pleasant for listening. In this department, my old Seas reed's had them beat by a long shot. So unless you have a tweeter that goes very low, or are one of those guys who are running a full range in lieu of a tweeter, I would not recommend these for 2-way use.

Let me know if you have any other questions or need any more non-scientific feedback

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Sweet! I've been waiting for a review on these guys. Sounds like a great alternative for midbass if you cannot fit an 8" driver.

How much Power are you putting to them? They have low sensitivity, so for a midbass only application it seems they would probably eat up gobbs of power.

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I believe some were saying due to the specs it wouldn't be very efficient in the doors but you seem to be experiencing very good results with it. Punchy midbass and plays clean down to 63hz, that sounds great. Damn things are 0.1 in too deep for me otherwise id order a pair . How much more output are you experiencing compared to the seas driver? It has nearly twice the linear excursion so I was wondering what that actually translated to in the real world. The review is very appreciated!

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Seems like a suitable replacement for the defunct Mpyers too.

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they look like DDW 6.5 mids? from the pics?

awesome price for midbass drivers though
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I believe some were saying due to the specs it wouldn't be very efficient in the doors but you seem to be experiencing very good results with it. Punchy midbass and plays clean down to 63hz, that sounds great. Damn things are 0.1 in too deep for me otherwise id order a pair . How much more output are you experiencing compared to the seas driver? It has nearly twice the linear excursion so I was wondering what that actually translated to in the real world. The review is very appreciated!
It's really hard to compare them directly to the Seas, since they play a LOT lower. If I had a gun to my head, I'd say they were at least 2 times louder than the Seas at the 80-60hz region. The Seas were EXCELLENT drivers, but a bit weak on the low end, which is totally understandable, as that is more subwoofer duty.

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How much Power are you putting to them? They have low sensitivity, so for a midbass only application it seems they would probably eat up gobbs of power.

The JL ratings are a bit funky cuz of the RIPS system (maybe mrsmith could clarify), but I believe that when the 900/5 is bridged, it puts out 200 watts @ 8 ohms.

Either way, its waaaay more than enough. I'd have to upgrade the rest of my speakers to keep up with these suckers if I pushed them any louder. So I don't think power/efficiency is really an issue unless you're running a small amp, or are running REALLY loud tweeters/high mids/sub.

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they look like DDW 6.5 mids? from the pics?

awesome price for midbass drivers though
The basket, cone, surround, and motor look completely different from the DDW unless I'm completely missing something? About the only thing they have in common is a single magnet slug.

Thanks for the review though! I've been wondering if anyone on this forum was going to pick up a pair of these monsters for their midbass duties. They're a bit deep for Car use, but that hasn't stopped DIYMA members before! With XBL^2 I knew they'd do well up to at least 1k, and 12mm of Xmax was going to be sufficient for kick-ass midbass. Good job going into detail about the crossover points too.

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taken from nzice - cheers fokker (maybe its an older model DD)




I guess I should of said they look similar to 'me'
edited** but yes I do see the differences there

I was looking at getting the exodus speakers.. but i think shipping would of been more than the actual cost of the drivers to be sent to NZ
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edited** but yes I do see the differences there

I was looking at getting the exodus speakers.. but i think shipping would of been more than the actual cost of the drivers to be sent to NZ
They look nothing alike to me, different top plates, bottom plates, magnet, cone, dust cap, basket, and different spiders
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Yah, the only similarity I see is that they both look like they've been eating a lot of oreos.
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Yup, nice driver. I'm using a pair in a small (.5cf) mini-monitor with a 38Hz -3db point. At $45, I picked up an extra to use as a sub in my Car at some point.

FWIW, in a tapped horn, this driver will play flat to 25Hz, though it won't be particularly loud at that tuning.

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Nice review. I also read your review of the "ID" OEM 2.5 midbass. If you don't mind, could you give some comparisons between those two?

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Nice review. I also read your review of the "ID" OEM 2.5 midbass. If you don't mind, could you give some comparisons between those two?
The Anarchy's have less motor noise, and can get louder with less distortion. The ID's have a bit more "punch" (perhaps due to their much tighter suspension?). I'd say that the Anarchy's sound a bit more true to the original program content. The ID's are a bit shallower, but are just as beefy, weight-wise as the Anarchy's. I think that either the ID's or the Anarchy's would be a very good choice for the bottom end of a 3-way, and I think that I would be hard pressed to differentiate between the two in a double blind test while listening to normal music output from the full system.

BTW, those pics of the "DD's" look VERY VERY similar to the ID 2.5's. I'd almost guarantee that they were made @ the same factory.
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I was also looking for an alternative for the mypre midbass. It sounds like these dont have any issues playing IB in a door. I assume as long as the door is damped well I could place these on a baffle in a door and go. I only have about 150 rms to use. Is that fine or do they need more or less?
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For those of you with 2-ways, I tested them a bit by bumping them up to 2khz and 2.5khz to see how they performed. They were acceptable at 2khz with a steep slope, but I cannot recommend them for use at 2.5khz. The breakup was very noticeable, and was not pleasant for listening. In this department, my old Seas reed's had them beat by a long shot. So unless you have a tweeter that goes very low, or are one of those guys who are running a full range in lieu of a tweeter, I would not recommend these for 2-way use.Thanks.
I almost bought a set of these myself at the entry price in hopes that the response was out to 3KHz. My thoughts changed after seeing the reviews around. Still, I was going to try them at 2K-2.5KHz with the SB Acoustics tweets. DIY cable claims that the 4K breakup should not need a notch with a 3rd or 4th order slope.

I still would like to see what these can do in a 2-way. Would be interesting to compare against the SB Acoustics mid mated with the SB tweets.
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I was also looking for an alternative for the mypre midbass. It sounds like these dont have any issues playing IB in a door. I assume as long as the door is damped well I could place these on a baffle in a door and go. I only have about 150 rms to use. Is that fine or do they need more or less?
Yeah, my door is very well dampened. I have several layers of rammat and ensolite. I also have put a lot of open cell foam on my door card along with additional rammat. I am still getting a bit of rattles and will be tackling them soon.

It's really hard for me to say for sure if 150 RMS is enough. This is due to the fact that I do not know how much of my 200 RMS I am using, and also due to the fact that I have no idea how loud you want your music, and @ what crossover point.

If I were to guess, I'd say that 150 RMS is plenty and that you should give it a shot if you're really looking for a good midbass to use in a 3-way.
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Just an update. I've settled on 63hz @ 30db slope for my lowend cut off. I'm still loving these guys and have actually ordered another pair before they go up even more in price.
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the price is at 75 dollars a piece now planning to order shiva and the anarchy would these sound bad if i was to run these 2way i dont have any tweeters in mind but i hear good things about hybrid never heard them but seems like my taste but so expensive im gonna be low on funds after i buy these speakers it would be sweet to run 3 way like your set up maybe later when im more expereinced and richer haha but any good tweets to match these for 2way? sorry for bumping a old thread
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i see them listed as $85 a piece.

these are perfect for 3 way, and i talked to them and they say they will play from 20hz up to 5k so it should perform nicely in a 2 way, but i would cross higher than 20hz and lower than 5k for the best results imo.

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yeah they are 85 i got switrched up with something else
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i see them listed as $85 a piece.

these are perfect for 3 way, and i talked to them and they say they will play from 20hz up to 5k so it should perform nicely in a 2 way, but i would cross higher than 20hz and lower than 5k for the best results imo.
ic well ifound these they look alright i guess 1500-40000hz

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Good review!

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