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I wont waste my money and time on this piece of junks from China....
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I wont waste my money and time on this piece of junks from China....
Come on.....you are from Malaysia.

That like saying "your rubber dog shit is inferior to my rubber vommit".....

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You strike me as a guy over 45, such anger! lol.
No, I'm 36.......still angry though

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Very nice find, I dont' know why HU havent support flac or ape yet.. I kept on burning APE and FLAC out on CDS and it stack up like two case of 100 cds in my car right now.


Defenitely give this thing a shot.
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Hello Allan74

Where did you buy Car Head Unit - KW-CM3001 for only 85$ ?

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Default Re: My $85 FLAC Car Head Unit - KW-CM3001

Interesting thought about designing a car stereo with a chinese company. The CAN make high end gear if the money is there.

But those of you wanting FLAC and such, why not an android phone that has HDMI out, isn't that a digital signal on the audio channels? Or perhaps a small car PC running linux? A head unit with analog changer signals would not be a big deal to interprete with a USB A/D converter on a linux box.

I've seen a couple of linux ODBC implementations, with the new android tables, perhaps something is coming along soon you could put a Samsung galaxy tab in the dash with all the navigation, bluetooth, etc and get your FLAC and ORB out of there. Don't know if they have a digital out in the connectors or not.
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The problem is that neither the phone or the pc can be made as cheaply as a simple head unit. Adnroid phones cost at least 300, plus then you have to bother with connecting and disconnecting it everytime you use the vehicle, unless you have a spare just for the car. I also don't know of any changer signal implementations, or any head units that would support that. I have thought about going pc, but I just can't find a decent way to control or implement one.


As far as this kinwei unit goes, my only complaint about it would be the apparent lack of a shuffle function for it. The chinese only manual for it was no help, and the firmware that is on it is more updated than shown in the manual. It seems to shuffle all of the contents in any one folder by default, but it would be nice to be able to turn that ability on or off at will. Still far better than my old unit.

There are other units out there that might be better than this one, such as this one, but good luck finding a seller for it if you are not in china. If you want to order it using that awful site, it looks like you have to order in batches of at least 100, which is a bit of a commitment.
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For some reason, this site won't let me post the link to that other head unit
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I have given up on FLAC.

I am going Kenwood Disc-less (KIV-BT900) and WAV files via USB.......
http://www.kenwood.ca/Car_Entertainm...vers/KIV-BT900

This unit also supports a 3-device USB Hub.

I will however wait till after CES to make sure there isn't a 2011 Deck that I like more, but this Kenwood is the front runner after hours of research.

This Kenwood is one of the ONLY decks that I found that document WAV FILE support on paper.....

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I have given up on FLAC.

I am going Kenwood Disc-less (KIV-BT900) and WAV files via USB.......
Kenwood - KIV-BT900

This unit also supports a 3-device USB Hub.

I will however wait till after CES to make sure there isn't a 2011 Deck that I like more, but this Kenwood is the front runner after hours of research.

This Kenwood is one of the ONLY decks that I found that document WAV FILE support on paper.....
I completely understand your position. I've checked every deck like the Kenwoods and they all have no support for wav files, Unbelievable. Do you know if the Kenwood supports 24 bit wav files as well??
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Do you know if the Kenwood supports 24 bit wav files as well??
Nope. Documented support as follows (directly from the Kenwood manual) - 16bit 44.1khz WAV Files.

I checked Pioneer, Clarion...everyone...and Kenwood is the ONLY WAV file supporter that is documented, so that is what I am going to buy.

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I run WAV via USB on my Kenwood X991.
Works beautifully but you have to use the Kenwood Music software to build your library for best results. Otherwise there are no file names and loading can take longer.
That's the only annoyance in an otherwise awesome deck.

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I run WAV via USB on my Kenwood X991.
Works beautifully but you have to use the Kenwood Music software to build your library for best results. Otherwise there are no file names and loading can take longer.
That's the only annoyance in an otherwise awesome deck.
My current head unit (x890) is 1 year older (2006 vs.2007 models) and 1 model below yours....
Unfortunately, I tried WAV files and they are NOT supported, otherwise, I would keep it, as I love this deck.
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My Pioneer DEX-P9 supports WAV files.

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My Pioneer DEX-P9 supports WAV files.
Time for us to begin making a list of comfirmed units that support WAV files....

- Kenwood x991
- Kenwood x890 (TESTED- FAILED)
- Pioneer DEX-P9
- Kinwei KW-CM3001 (Disc-less in-dash FLAC Player)

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Time for us to begin making a list of comfirmed units that support WAV files....

- Kenwood x991
- Kenwood x890 (TESTED- FAILED)
- Pioneer DEX-P9
Might as well add the kinwei KW-CM3001 to the list, as it supports wav as well.

and if the link works this time, this
Judging from that site, flac ogg and wav are standard on a significant minority of players there, just no resellers outside of china.

Like flac, I would suspect many units capable of wav are probably undocumented, so, if there isn't already a list out there, listing them is a good idea.
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Might as well add the kinwei KW-CM3001 to the list, as it supports wav as well.
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Time for us to begin making a list of comfirmed units that support WAV files....

- Kenwood x991
- Kenwood x890 (TESTED- FAILED)
- Pioneer DEX-P9
- Kinwei KW-CM3001 (Disc-less in-dash FLAC/OGG Multimedia Player)
Done.

Luckilly thanks to cheap storage, FLAC is becoming less and less important. WAV, being a 'standard' anyways, will probably be the format of choice for many that have been chomping-at-the-bit for FLAC compatibility.

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If anyone has any units to add to the list, I am sure it would help alot of people.

SUCCESSFUL wav tests.....as well as FAILURES, as we can note them just as well. Save people alot of time testing DUDs if we knew of a bunch of them in advance as well the as the good players.

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Default Re: My $85 FLAC Car Head Unit - KW-CM3001

Well, it is.

Even the Ural CDD, the only real HU that could read flac, looks cheap (although I can assure you it isn't). And that's probably its only downfall, along with the weird interface.

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We simply don't have anough 'Geeks' interested in making Car Audio better, to hack firmware on current Multimedia units that is.

Home Multimedia (ie. WD TV Live Plus) has been hacked to shit to add improvements. Car audio ? seems to be all about adding plecebo 'capacitor and oppamp' upgrades.
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Default Re: My $85 FLAC Car Head Unit - KW-CM3001

Pioneer DEH-4000UB, 5000UB (EU version units) also sopports WAVE from USB.
URAL ConceRt supports FLAC from CD and proprietary HDD (20Gb).

n_olympios, Ural doesn't look cheap in real life...
And anyone can make it better easy - just erase all text and change plastic encoder cap to "Hi-Fi" one
http://s004.radikal.ru/i207/1001/47/371ff24bad63.jpg (but with with stock knob).

But Helix prototype was way prettier
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Default Re: My $85 FLAC Car Head Unit - KW-CM3001

Yeah, but it stayed a prototype (if that).

Well I own a Ural and when I was using it in the car, many mistook it for a cheap chinese unit.

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Yeah, but it stayed a prototype (if that).

Well I own a Ural and when I was using it in the car, many mistook it for a cheap chinese unit.
That's a good thing, because then you don't have to worry about thieves breaking into your car and then ripping it out (as much). That assumes that the thieves will at least look into the car before breaking in...
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